Conor Gallagher | AtletiGO?

Maluco said:
I actually think the exact opposite. I reckon there are some serious bargains in there for some teams. A completely incompetent Chelsea are making so many look so much worse than they really are.

Gallagher will look fantastic next year if he goes back to Palace or gets a move somewhere like Brighton.
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I actually think both would be nauseatingly good replacements for Henderson at Liverpool - since they're the only top side that deliberately plays chaotically and a lot of the playmaking burden from that position is alleviated by having TAA there.
 
How the feck are Chelsea supposed to know who to sell or keep? If Ten Hag wanted to keep Maguire etc to evaluate who can contribute what then why wouldn’t a new manager not do the same thing on a much larger scale with Chelsea?
It’s crazy how bad they’ve been, you almost have to to somehow discard this season and have every one start from scratch. That means next season could be another (but lesser) shit show but what else can they do?
 
cyberman said:
How the feck are Chelsea supposed to know who to sell or keep? If Ten Hag wanted to keep Maguire etc to evaluate who can contribute what then why wouldn’t a new manager not do the same thing on a much larger scale with Chelsea?
It’s crazy how bad they’ve been, you almost have to to somehow discard this season and have every one start from scratch. That means next season could be another (but lesser) shit show but what else can they do?
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Genuinely don't think it's that hard to know one way or the other - I can assure you that there's no KdB/Mourinho situation here. In a lot of ways it'll be dictated by offers so there's some gray area here, but here's the (100% correct and indisputable) breakdown of the squad. Also, hire me if you want Chelsea, my consulting rates are very reasonable:

Keep 100%:
Enzo Fernandez
Thiago Silva
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Christopher Nkunku
Malo Gusto
Benoit Badiashile
Mykhailo Mudryk
Wesley Fofana
Noni Madueke
Levi Colwill
Ian Maatsen
Andrey Santos

Keep but potentially loan:
Carney Chukwuemeka
David Datro Fofana
Gaga Slonina
Armando Broja (once he's back from his ACL tear)

Sell 100%:
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Hakim Ziyech
Christian Pulisic
Cesar Azpilicueta

Ideally sell but unlikely:
Marc Cucurella
Kalidou Koulibaly
Raheem Sterling
Romelu Lukaku

Entertain offers but only sell if price is right:
Mason Mount
Conor Gallagher
Trevoh Chalobah
Kai Havertz
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Mateo Kovacic
Edouard Mendy
Kepa Arrizabalaga

Let return to parent clubs:
Joao Felix
Denis Zakaria
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
I actually think both would be nauseatingly good replacements for Henderson at Liverpool - since they're the only top side that deliberately plays chaotically and a lot of the playmaking burden from that position is alleviated by having TAA there.
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I think there's case to be made for Mount - at his best, he's like a less flashy and technically flamboyant but equally productive (post-Benfica version of) Felix, plus able to play as a double 8 more easily. Gallagher looks like a mid-table scrapper in current terms (or default type of England midfielder when really technically high-grade players haven't been available) , fine with space around him but not able to deal with congested spaces except with chaos-ball to an extent that even Liverpool can't allow. Even the likes of Milner have more 'finesse', though obviously he's at the final stages: more to the point, I think Harvey Elliott is potentially much better at both the 'beating people' and 'short quick passing to beat the block' sides, and equally capable of getting 'stuck in'. Maybe Gallagher could be converted to more of an overt defensive mid and do a decent job for Brighton or similar, where his technical faults could also be ironed out....
 
Baxquux said:
I think there's case to be made for Mount - at his best, he's like a less flashy and technically flamboyant but equally productive (post-Benfica version of) Felix, plus able to play as a double 8 more easily. Gallagher looks like a mid-table scrapper in current terms (or default type of England midfielder when really technically high-grade players haven't been available) , fine with space around him but not able to deal with congested spaces except with chaos-ball to an extent that even Liverpool can't allow. Even the likes of Milner have more 'finesse', though obviously he's at the final stages: more to the point, I think Harvey Elliott is potentially much better at both the 'beating people' and 'short quick passing to beat the block' sides, and equally capable of getting 'stuck in'. Maybe Gallagher could be converted to more of an overt defensive mid and do a decent job for Brighton or similar, where his technical faults could also be ironed out....
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Yeah that's fair - Mount is certainly better able to step in right now. But I almost think Gallagher is a better fit if he can be more refined - his stamina and running could help cover up for Trent's weaknesses - and I think to his credit he's improved this year in terms of his technique in tight spaces. Liverpool would potentially need to compensate with a bit more technical quality at the left 8 position - ironically if Thiago were younger I could see a Thiago - Fabinho - Gallagher midfield being very complimentary and working very well together.
 
I really hope Gallagher and Mount make the move to Liverpool. Need Liverpool to stock up on some bang average players.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Genuinely don't think it's that hard to know one way or the other - I can assure you that there's no KdB/Mourinho situation here. In a lot of ways it'll be dictated by offers so there's some gray area here, but here's the (100% correct and indisputable) breakdown of the squad. Also, hire me if you want Chelsea, my consulting rates are very reasonable:

Keep 100%:
Enzo Fernandez
Thiago Silva
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Christopher Nkunku
Malo Gusto
Benoit Badiashile
Mykhailo Mudryk
Wesley Fofana
Noni Madueke
Levi Colwill
Ian Maatsen
Andrey Santos

Keep but potentially loan:
Carney Chukwuemeka
David Datro Fofana
Gaga Slonina
Armando Broja (once he's back from his ACL tear)

Sell 100%:
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Hakim Ziyech
Christian Pulisic
Cesar Azpilicueta

Ideally sell but unlikely:
Marc Cucurella
Kalidou Koulibaly
Raheem Sterling
Romelu Lukaku

Entertain offers but only sell if price is right:
Mason Mount
Conor Gallagher
Trevoh Chalobah
Kai Havertz
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Mateo Kovacic
Edouard Mendy
Kepa Arrizabalaga

Let return to parent clubs:
Joao Felix
Denis Zakaria
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This is a huge squad full of senior internationals.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Genuinely don't think it's that hard to know one way or the other - I can assure you that there's no KdB/Mourinho situation here. In a lot of ways it'll be dictated by offers so there's some gray area here, but here's the (100% correct and indisputable) breakdown of the squad. Also, hire me if you want Chelsea, my consulting rates are very reasonable:

Keep 100%:
Enzo Fernandez
Thiago Silva
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Christopher Nkunku
Malo Gusto
Benoit Badiashile
Mykhailo Mudryk
Wesley Fofana
Noni Madueke
Levi Colwill
Ian Maatsen
Andrey Santos

Keep but potentially loan:
Carney Chukwuemeka
David Datro Fofana
Gaga Slonina
Armando Broja (once he's back from his ACL tear)

Sell 100%:
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Hakim Ziyech
Christian Pulisic
Cesar Azpilicueta

Ideally sell but unlikely:
Marc Cucurella
Kalidou Koulibaly
Raheem Sterling
Romelu Lukaku

Entertain offers but only sell if price is right:
Mason Mount
Conor Gallagher
Trevoh Chalobah
Kai Havertz
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Mateo Kovacic
Edouard Mendy
Kepa Arrizabalaga

Let return to parent clubs:
Joao Felix
Denis Zakaria
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Nkunku isn't your player
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
We've been over this - the deal is done as per RB Leipzig's sporting director
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Just link to the Chelsea home page where they posted the news. Or maybe just post a link from Sky Sports confirming the transfer, or maybe a tweet from the player, just anything beyond london.football.chelsea'shit.com which seems to be the only rag that confirms your story.
 
Strootman's Finger said:
Just link to the Chelsea home page where they posted the news. Or maybe just post a link from Sky Sports confirming the transfer, or maybe a tweet from the player, just anything beyond london.football.chelsea'shit.com which seems to be the only rag that confirms your story.
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A direct quote from the selling club's sporting director is somehow less credible than Skysports?
 
The scary thing is - if we look at the 15-20 players Chelsea might be willing to sell, there isn't a single one I would want at United. And I struggle to see Chelsea getting rid of most of them without making some loan deals where they offer to pay the wages.
 
lysglimt said:
The scary thing is - if we look at the 15-20 players Chelsea might be willing to sell, there isn't a single one I would want at United. And I struggle to see Chelsea getting rid of most of them without making some loan deals where they offer to pay the wages.
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Man United are a team looking to challenge for everything next season, of course you're not going to want any Chelsea rejects, it would be a concern if you did!
 
lysglimt said:
The scary thing is - if we look at the 15-20 players Chelsea might be willing to sell, there isn't a single one I would want at United. And I struggle to see Chelsea getting rid of most of them without making some loan deals where they offer to pay the wages.
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There’s not many I’d want from the ones they’d want to keep either.
 
lysglimt said:
The scary thing is - if we look at the 15-20 players Chelsea might be willing to sell, there isn't a single one I would want at United. And I struggle to see Chelsea getting rid of most of them without making some loan deals where they offer to pay the wages.
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RLC in a new environment and Kovacic would be solid additions to any squad bar City
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Genuinely don't think it's that hard to know one way or the other - I can assure you that there's no KdB/Mourinho situation here. In a lot of ways it'll be dictated by offers so there's some gray area here, but here's the (100% correct and indisputable) breakdown of the squad. Also, hire me if you want Chelsea, my consulting rates are very reasonable:

Keep 100%:
Enzo Fernandez
Thiago Silva
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Christopher Nkunku
Malo Gusto
Benoit Badiashile
Mykhailo Mudryk
Wesley Fofana
Noni Madueke
Levi Colwill
Ian Maatsen
Andrey Santos

Keep but potentially loan:
Carney Chukwuemeka
David Datro Fofana
Gaga Slonina
Armando Broja (once he's back from his ACL tear)

Sell 100%:
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Hakim Ziyech
Christian Pulisic
Cesar Azpilicueta

Ideally sell but unlikely:
Marc Cucurella
Kalidou Koulibaly
Raheem Sterling
Romelu Lukaku

Entertain offers but only sell if price is right:
Mason Mount
Conor Gallagher
Trevoh Chalobah
Kai Havertz
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Mateo Kovacic
Edouard Mendy
Kepa Arrizabalaga

Let return to parent clubs:
Joao Felix
Denis Zakaria
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Who's going to even try to buy some of these players? It's not like they can just sell them to China like they did in the past
 
Kovacic is going to Bayern Munich isn't he?

See if Kante agrees a new deal so that will give space to regenerate a new midfield on top of Mount and Gallagher leaving.
 
Strootman's Finger said:
We'll see come next season, well, you'll see, then you'll have to tell me, because I am not going to be watching the Championship with chelsea fans.
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I just don't understand why you are so fixated on this? But sure - I'll be sure to drop you a line.

GifLord said:
Who's going to even try to buy some of these players? It's not like they can just sell them to China like they did in the past
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Isn't Oscar the only guy we sold to China, and even then it was purely because they offered us a stupid amount?

Regardless, I was just responding to someone who questioned how easily the squad at Chelsea could be evaluated - I definitely agree with you that selling many of this lot on will be difficult but that wasn't what I was trying to address.
 
Looked good in a palace team but out of his depth for a bigger team who wants to challenge.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
I just don't understand why you are so fixated on this? But sure - I'll be sure to drop you a line.



Isn't Oscar the only guy we sold to China, and even then it was purely because they offered us a stupid amount?

Regardless, I was just responding to someone who questioned how easily the squad at Chelsea could be evaluated - I definitely agree with you that selling many of this lot on will be difficult but that wasn't what I was trying to address.
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Ramires aswell
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Genuinely don't think it's that hard to know one way or the other - I can assure you that there's no KdB/Mourinho situation here. In a lot of ways it'll be dictated by offers so there's some gray area here, but here's the (100% correct and indisputable) breakdown of the squad. Also, hire me if you want Chelsea, my consulting rates are very reasonable:

Keep 100%:
Enzo Fernandez
Thiago Silva
Reece James
Ben Chilwell
Christopher Nkunku
Malo Gusto
Benoit Badiashile
Mykhailo Mudryk
Wesley Fofana
Noni Madueke
Levi Colwill
Ian Maatsen
Andrey Santos

Keep but potentially loan:
Carney Chukwuemeka
David Datro Fofana
Gaga Slonina
Armando Broja (once he's back from his ACL tear)

Sell 100%:
Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
Hakim Ziyech
Christian Pulisic
Cesar Azpilicueta

Ideally sell but unlikely:
Marc Cucurella
Kalidou Koulibaly
Raheem Sterling
Romelu Lukaku

Entertain offers but only sell if price is right:
Mason Mount
Conor Gallagher
Trevoh Chalobah
Kai Havertz
Ruben Loftus-Cheek
Mateo Kovacic
Edouard Mendy
Kepa Arrizabalaga

Let return to parent clubs:
Joao Felix
Denis Zakaria
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Yeah, probably wise to retain the players you haven't registered yet.

How many years on Cucurella's deal btw?
 
awop said:
RLC in a new environment and Kovacic would be solid additions to any squad bar City
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If you look at United, we have Fred, McT, possibly Sabitzer, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno.....would Kovacic or RLC strengthen us - possibly Kovacic, but not much. And certainly not enough. We have the numbers, we need 1 quality midfielder - and preferably a slightly younger player as Kovacic is another player in the 29-31 years-bracket by next season
 
lysglimt said:
If you look at United, we have Fred, McT, possibly Sabitzer, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno.....would Kovacic or RLC strengthen us - possibly Kovacic, but not much. And certainly not enough. We have the numbers, we need 1 quality midfielder - and preferably a slightly younger player as Kovacic is another player in the 29-31 years-bracket by next season
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I don't know i don't watch all United games but Fred seems to alternate 2/10 and 7/10 games when he gets to play. McT should really be playing for Burnley imo so replacing either of these two would be an improvement. Plus they could possibly be done on the cheap. I'm sure you'll get a better player on top of Sabitzer in midfield this summer.
 
lysglimt said:
If you look at United, we have Fred, McT, possibly Sabitzer, Casemiro, Eriksen and Bruno.....would Kovacic or RLC strengthen us - possibly Kovacic, but not much. And certainly not enough. We have the numbers, we need 1 quality midfielder - and preferably a slightly younger player as Kovacic is another player in the 29-31 years-bracket by next season
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RLC no, Kovačić yes because he is a press resistant midfielder who works perfectly in that deep role next to casemiro where he can receive the ball and transition our play through passing and dribbling and being very secure on the ball. That's the key requirement of what we need. Not just any random good midfielder. Needs to fit exactly the traits we need.
 
Watched him closely last night for the first time in a while. Bit of a disasterclass and looks like his confidence has gone through the floor. Do Chelsea fans think he’s likely to be made available in the summer?
 
Shipperley said:
Watched him closely last night for the first time in a while. Bit of a disasterclass and looks like his confidence has gone through the floor. Do Chelsea fans think he’s likely to be made available in the summer?
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As an 8 i think hes a good player, as a 10 or a 6 he makes my eyes bleed.
If Mount leaves i think Gallagher might stay.
 
One of those players that runs around alot and seems to be everywhere but actually does nothing. Reminds me of when I try to play 5 a side actually.
 
He looked really impressive at Palace. That's probably the right level for him.

He's incredibly hard working but also a very limited player. He's exactly the sort of player that Everton would spend £45 million on!
 
Oscar Bonavena said:
Where did Palace play him that he seemed to make such a big impact there?
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jakko said:
8 and 10 i think.
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He played mostly as a 10 but the team was much more compact so he had far more opportunities in transition. He's been pretty mediocre for Chelsea against deep-lying defenses; simply lacks the technical ability in tight spaces to be effective.
 
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