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Wonder what Kanye is thinking about all of this, didn't he want to work with Drake on an album? He must have signed off the diss record.
 
Pusha’s track was absolutely savage. I don’t like his low blow shot at 40 though.

How will Drizzy respond? The internet seem to be unanimous in agreeing Pusha is winning, probably unexpectedly as Drake’s track was pretty damn good and the invoice/meme IG post made Pusha the laughing stock for a few days, it had shades of Meek Milly Gate

Have a word with yourself pal
 
I agree. I'm saying that people are calling Drake a pop star as an insult to his "street cred". Not his skill as a rapper.

Here's a good acid test. Is Flo Rida a pop star?

Good question. All things considered he's a pop star, he just happens to rap.
 


Drake’s up and coming new line with Adidas called ‘Adidon’ (his hidden child’s name) is now associated with this beef :lol:
 
I like Drake but I'm not surprised Pusha T absolutely slaughtered him. Drake has great songs but stepped up to Push, a far superior lyricist. Duppy freestyle was savage but he was completely BTFO by Push. He went for the fecking throat, taking shots at his ethnicity, dying friend, and abilities as a father while likening him to his own deadbeat dad. The blackface cover art was already brutal but taking everything else into account he utterly annihilated him. Honestly want Drake to come back at him just to see how far Pusha can go with this.
 
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Very savage response from Pusha but I think time will tell how much of a blow it really is. Drake will still be a massive star regardless of what happens as many of the fans won't even care about a rap beef.

It's been back and forth with each track raising the stakes but Pusha has set the bar now, Drake will reply and will have to be on point to sway the masses back to himself.

With social media the way it is, any insinuation can catch fire and you're often having to fight the claims rather than the substance of what was said.
 
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The poll is cute :lol: I'm sure similar ones will be made for Eminem, 50cent, Jay-Z etc.

I have a question though; I was listening to Pusha's track again - this started because of Pusha's insistence that Drake's use of ghostwriters makes him a fake/phony and not respected.
Drake responded basically by saying "if i'm a phony, then what is your mentor? because I ghostwrote for him and I wasn't the only one"

Push then decided that Drake should only focus on him as part of his battle, but surely that only validates what Drake said even more?
It's clever on one hand to turn the focus only on him, but it only begs the question why he hasn't addressed it, given his apparent stance on ghostwriting.

If Pusha believes that rappers who use ghostwriters are phony and shouldn't be respected in the game, then surely he should keep the same energy for Kanye? (& pretty much everyone on G.O.O.D. music)
 
Almost forgot Kanye's album is out Friday. I hope he has a proper version of Lift Yourself because that production is great.

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Hi vi1lain
 
The poll is cute :lol: I'm sure similar ones will be made for Eminem, 50cent, Jay-Z etc.
One vote that he isn't a popstar, if drake was on trial he would have been convicted by a jury of his peers, I can't believe you do this for a living, worst lawyer ever.
 
One vote that he isn't a popstar, if drake was on trial he would have been convicted by a jury of his peers, I can't believe you do this for a living, worst lawyer ever.

You run on emotion and your dislike for Drake, you're not the only one.
I simply asked if the criteria for him being a pop star is because some of his songs are pop, why is that label not applied to other hip hop artists who have also had various pop songs, whats the difference?

Which precisely what great lawyers do, hence why I am one - a fantastic one at that.

Besides, trying to relate any comparison between what I do for a living and what I post on here in my spare time is pointless.

Hi Solius, you can call me vill if you like.
 
Must have a cushty gig, the lawyers I know don’t have time to write 4000 posts a day defending drake

Depends on what type of lawyer they are and at what level they are surely?
I didn't have a lot of spare time in my first few years, but now I work directly with clients so a lot of meetings & travelling, which allows for me to check my phone.

Plus, I worked from home today.
 
You can't handle the truth about Drake.

What truth? Everyone is discussing opinions in here.

I simply asked, if his pop songs are the qualifying criteria, what makes him different to other rappers who have pop singles.
 
If Pusha believes that rappers who use ghostwriters are phony and shouldn't be respected in the game, then surely he should keep the same energy for Kanye? (& pretty much everyone on G.O.O.D. music)
It’s because Drake claims to be the best lyricist around, or top 5 etc.

Kanye doesn’t claim this title and has even openly talked about writers of his tracks in interviews. He thanked Drake on Twitter for his help on writing a few tracks on his previous album.

Dr. Dre is similar to Kanye on that front - it’s well known that Jay-Z wrote ‘Still D.R.E.’ and that Eminem and Snoop have penned many Dre tracks.
 
As far as I know, this track was the first time Pusha sent shots at Drake. The track is mainly aimed at Wayne.

6 years to the day of the new diss.

 
Drake is a bitchmade artist, for bitch made fans. Drake sings in the shower with an auto-tone enhancer, because he is one hundred percent, entirely bitch made. Look at his bitch lips, he doesn't even spit into the mic, he kisses it, passionately. That's why Drake goes solo, because other artists do not want to make contact with his bitch like lips. Drake pours butter on himself and walks around studio's asking people to eat him like toast, because he's so hot. Look at the motherfeckers face and hairline, these are the signs.
 
It’s because Drake claims to be the best lyricist around, or top 5 etc.

Kanye doesn’t claim this title and has even openly talked about writers of his tracks in interviews. He thanked Drake on Twitter for his help on writing a few tracks on his previous album.

Dr. Dre is similar to Kanye on that front - it’s well known that Jay-Z wrote ‘Still D.R.E.’ and that Eminem and Snoop have penned many Dre tracks.

I agree absolutely, but even then there are plenty of lyricists who have used ghostwriters (or rather been accused of using ghostwriters) who claim the same thing, they just haven't been 'exposed' as such.
Nas, The Game & Ghostface come to mind, and i'm sure there's plenty more.

So surely, if the position is that ghostwriting is a mark on your legitimacy, that should apply to everybody.
 
I agree absolutely, but even then there are plenty of lyricists who have used ghostwriters (or rather been accused of using ghostwriters) who claim the same thing, they just haven't been 'exposed' as such.
Nas, The Game & Ghostface come to mind, and i'm sure there's plenty more.

So surely, if the position is that ghostwriting is a mark on your legitimacy, that should apply to everybody.

Shit, if Nas and Ghostface used ghostwriters on Illmatic or Supreme Clientele then feck rap, I'm posting up in the Adele thread.
 
Just curious - what is the counter suggestion to Drake being a pop star?
 
What started this thing between Drake and the other guy?
Pusha T used to be part of a duo called Clipse, the other member being his brother. They wore a brand called Bape and it was kind of their 'thing' that no one else wore, till Lil Wayne started wearing it back when he was in the limelight. So they had a little fued (even though Pusha claims it wasn't about that).

Fast forward to 2011 from about 2006 and Drake comes along, signed to Wayne's record label. Pusha drops a few bars dissing drake for basically acting like an arrogant new kid on the block type, when he's really not all that yet. Pusha keeps at this for a while without a response from Drake in one of his albums, I forgot what he says. Then two years ago Drake dropped another line saying Pusha T is a has been who only ever talks about being an ex drug dealer. And now we're here.