No,why?
No,why?
Skepta's confidence allows for his stuff to have greater impact. I think he's great.
Just curious.
Anyone else excited for that Jay Z "B-Side concert" for Tidal? don't necessarily like the idea of having to subscribe to an app i'll never use but he's performing songs he's never performed before(not since he became corporate Hov anyways), might just cash in that free trial.
Just recently have I heard of this song. Some Souls of Mischief and Snoop sounding like his old self.
Souls of Mischief - Only Now
Souls of Mischief - Only Now
Snoop's album leaked. Will get mixed reactions, I really like it though, good vibe and you can tell he's had a blast making it.
Game and Young thug going at it on social media. Game is an idiot. Nigga supposed to be on another level and he is threatening to beat up a dude ten years younger than him. Stupid shit to get himself involved
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/young-thug-responds-to-the-games-threat-news.15265.html
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/young-thug-responds-to-the-games-threat-news.15265.html
It's almost like Game has an album coming out soon.
Was thinking about posting this just now, but The Game v Young Thug isn't exactly the type of beef people take seriously.
silde up wit dem dix
This is an automatic L for both of them though.Barter 6 any good?
Game gonna do a 34350593 bar diss song and Thug gonna harmonize on a LondonOnThaTrack beat and wash him in 10 seconds.
Underwhelming for Thug IMO.
Going to give it a listen, safe to say Thug will be like Trinidad James in a few months then..
Lol no, Thugger got loads of heat on deck, Hy!£UN35 out in August. He'd been on a solid 2 year streak before Barter 6.
Migos or Thugger more solid run ?
I would say Thugger because he actually didn't release much of anything, it was all leaks and stuff. Migos are like Gucci Mane and probably oversaturate from time to time.
Jay Z vs. Nas: Which Emcee Has The Better Post-"Ether" Discography?
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/edito...h-emcee-has-the-better-post-ether-discography
Great Article in terms of concept, terrible ratings or just biased.
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/edito...h-emcee-has-the-better-post-ether-discography
Great Article in terms of concept, terrible ratings or just biased.
This is why Game is a punk for getting involved in other people's beef.
That's his M.O to be fair.
Haha. Yea. Im with Thugger on this shit tho. I don't take him seriously but there's something likeable about him..plus he's a Bankhead/Atlanta dude. A town all day baby
Yes. I remember he dissed Shyne for dissing Kendrick. He's a stupid motherfecker.
Game is a helluva rapper on his day, just needs to grow up...i wonder what Birdman thinks about all this, hasn't said a word since the whole Wayne debacle....lost his entire empire already.
That Jamie XX and Young Thug collab is phenomenal.
We need more debates on here!
So what do y'all think about ghostwriting in hiphop? I had a lengthy debate with an old friend of mine from high school on this topic. He thinks authenticity in the game is paramount and that rappers should be writing 100% of their lyrics, that hiphop is unique to other genres in this sense.
I happen to disagree. How many artists, no matter how talented can do it all by themselves all the time? Jay-Z has written for a bunch of cats in his day (including Dre-Dre day and a few other tracks, Foxy Brown, Amil, Memphis Bleek etc) but he's also got help before. Sauce Money ghostwrote for Jay before and Jay introduced him to Puffy. Sauce Money wrote 'I'll be missing you'. Its also a well known fact within the industry that Lupe Fiasco did some ghost writing on the Black album. Its said that he helped Jay write 'Allure' and took a one off pay day for it.
Lupe denies it but they're clauses that come with this writing for hire shit. Nas also had Stic man (Dead Prez) and Jay Electronica ghostwrite for him on his Untitled (Nigger) album. Stic has also denied it but had this to say, ' As far as the rumors about myself and Jay electronica ghost writing for Nas, let me say this. Nas is one of the most prolific original lyricists to ever do it. My contributions to his (Nigger) album was a collaboration and an honor to work under his direction of what he wanted to convey and say". A tribute but also a suggestion here that the rumors about writing for him are true. He did another full length interview after this where he denied ever actually writing for Nas. Hmm
Mase claims to have ghostwrote for Big L quite a bit in their Children of the Corn days, and he also (this is public knowledge) wrote Biggie's verse on 112's 'Only you' as part of him proving himself before Puffy offered him a contract on Bad boy (Biggie's approval also helped Mase land his own verse on the remix).
There are many other examples. Puffy, Dre and Eazy E are well known for using ghostwriters so shouldn't count in this debate. Eazy was an authentic nigga, if Ice Cube or whoever helped him pen his shit it had no bearing on how real he was. Thats the way I see it. Styles has also written for Jadakiss and vice versa. Why is this a problem for some people?
I happen to disagree. How many artists, no matter how talented can do it all by themselves all the time? Jay-Z has written for a bunch of cats in his day (including Dre-Dre day and a few other tracks, Foxy Brown, Amil, Memphis Bleek etc) but he's also got help before. Sauce Money ghostwrote for Jay before and Jay introduced him to Puffy. Sauce Money wrote 'I'll be missing you'. Its also a well known fact within the industry that Lupe Fiasco did some ghost writing on the Black album. Its said that he helped Jay write 'Allure' and took a one off pay day for it.
Lupe denies it but they're clauses that come with this writing for hire shit. Nas also had Stic man (Dead Prez) and Jay Electronica ghostwrite for him on his Untitled (Nigger) album. Stic has also denied it but had this to say, ' As far as the rumors about myself and Jay electronica ghost writing for Nas, let me say this. Nas is one of the most prolific original lyricists to ever do it. My contributions to his (Nigger) album was a collaboration and an honor to work under his direction of what he wanted to convey and say". A tribute but also a suggestion here that the rumors about writing for him are true. He did another full length interview after this where he denied ever actually writing for Nas. Hmm
Mase claims to have ghostwrote for Big L quite a bit in their Children of the Corn days, and he also (this is public knowledge) wrote Biggie's verse on 112's 'Only you' as part of him proving himself before Puffy offered him a contract on Bad boy (Biggie's approval also helped Mase land his own verse on the remix).
There are many other examples. Puffy, Dre and Eazy E are well known for using ghostwriters so shouldn't count in this debate. Eazy was an authentic nigga, if Ice Cube or whoever helped him pen his shit it had no bearing on how real he was. Thats the way I see it. Styles has also written for Jadakiss and vice versa. Why is this a problem for some people?
Listening to some Method Man...man he has some smooth delivery on the mic. There's something really unique about it compared to the other rappers I've listened to
@Loublaze I personally don't mind rappers having ghostwriters but I think they should be honest about it. I'm in no means as knowledgeable about rap as you but If I found out that Nas didn't write Illmatic by himself for example I wouldn't rate him as highly as I do right now I think(right now he is my number 1
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@Loublaze I personally don't mind rappers having ghostwriters but I think they should be honest about it. I'm in no means as knowledgeable about rap as you but If I found out that Nas didn't write Illmatic by himself for example I wouldn't rate him as highly as I do right now I think(right now he is my number 1
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Listening to some Method Man...man he has some smooth delivery on the mic. There's something really unique about it compared to the other rappers I've listened to
@Loublaze I personally don't mind rappers having ghostwriters but I think they should be honest about it. I'm in no means as knowledgeable about rap as you but If I found out that Nas didn't write Illmatic by himself for example I wouldn't rate him as highly as I do right now I think(right now he is my number 1
Whats your favorite Nas album besides Illmatic?
Oh man if he has only listened to Illmatic please let it stay that way for him, although It Was Written and Lost Tapes are pretty good.
You didn't like Stillmatic, God's Son, Hiphop is dead, Life is good or Distant Relatives (with Damian Marley)? I think Stillmatic is a classic.
If this is an attempt to embarrass me you have managed it! Stillmatic
I really liked Ether, Got urself a gun and rule. I'm not too sure about his other work but I like his track 'I can'There's a lot of guys that can write raps but can't rap for shit. The key will always be in the delivery, that's where the authenticity comes from, no one listens to a rap song and goes, 'wow that's the realest shit I ever heard,' goes and reads the credits, finds out it was written by someone else and thinks, 'ok this is now the fakest shit I ever heard.' Admittedly this scenario has never happened but rap music is all about feeling and creating environments that the listener can jump into with the rapper, that's where the realism comes in, that authenticity. There's no way someone can listen to the whole slew of mafioso driven rap records from the mid 90's and think it's remotely authentic just because Raekwon wrote his own raps.
I suppose a large part of the opinions on ghostwriting comes with the expectations you have for that rapper, for instance Nas would be placed as one of the most technically gifted rappers of all time so if he was found to have no written a single line of Illmatic it would hurt a lot more than say Dr.Dre who we know doesn't write his raps but we never really expect much from his rapping per se.
Stillmatic is good but slightly overrated IMO because of I Am... and Nastradamus. I like God's Son but most of Nas' discography is him being intermittently good as he can be whilst being half arsed over badly chosen beats for the rest of it. Hearing Illmatic and then hearing his subsequent lack of focus throughout most of the rest of his career is and always will be immensely frustrating to me.
If this is an attempt to embarrass me you have managed it! Stillmatic
Embarrass you? LOL. Stillmatic is a certified classic.
Great post. I agree 100%. Its funny to see people getting so hurt because their favorite rapper used a ghostwriter before. They need to let go. Every major hiphop artist has got help at one point or another
Stillmatic was a classic, nothing to do with his weak efforts that preceded it. The beef with Jay-Z lit a fire up under his ass and he came out swinging. I respect your views though. It was written was underwhelming and so were the albums you mentioned, they all had gems but they weren't all the way great
Ether was an amazing track. Completely ripped Jay-Z apart. I read something about Jay-Z apologising to Nas because it upset his mum or something?!
My top 5 are...
Biggie Smalls
Nas
Method Man
Eminem
Gangstarr
That list is easily changed so if you have something to recommend please send it my way!
My top 5 are...
Biggie Smalls
Nas
Method Man
Eminem
Gangstarr
That list is easily changed so if you have something to recommend please send it my way!
Ether was an amazing track. Completely ripped Jay-Z apart. I read something about Jay-Z apologising to Nas because it upset his mum or something?!
My top 5 are...
Biggie Smalls
Nas
Method Man
Eminem
Gangstarr
That list is easily changed so if you have something to recommend please send it my way!
Biggie is my favorite rapper ever. Loved Big. I'd recommend Kendrick Lamar if you haven't listened to him yet. Joey Bada$$ too