Duke? Surely a sign of the end of days, no?
College Football 12/13
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Duke? Surely a sign of the end of days, no?
No chance if Kansas State or Oregon run the table. The Alabama/Florida loser is out in that scenario.
I could see it if Bama loses a close game to Florida in the championship. Lots of people would still vote them at 2. The computers might even see it that way.
SEC bias will reign again...
SEC is better than the rest, that is plain and simple. The best two teams in the country might very well both be SEC teams. Oregon or K.State would get bitch slapped in champtionship game.
Then what is the point of the college football season if/when two SEC teams get into a mythical national game while everyone else is left to realize that there's only one conference pollsters and media care about?
Might as well award the NFL Champions tag to the NFC title game winner this year. If the NFL acted like BCS/NCAA.
Sagarin had the Big 12 ahead of the SEC last time I checked.
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Go Blue!
NOT a college football fan till last night. Used to jinx my son in laws team, Notre Dame, till last night when we watched the game together at the London Club near Chicago and boy didn't they feck over Oklahoma big time. #3 now and guess who will be watching the Fighting Irish from now on?
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Go Blue!
fecking hell. Talk about giving up big plays. fecking horrendous PI calls too.
You have GOT to swat away that 48 yards completion. And you HAVE to stop the quarterback rush, not miss 4-5 tackles and let him lean for the touchdown. Goddamnit. I didn't expect a win against Michigan anyway, but they are getting huge stops on first and second down, and then giving up huge plays on 3rd. STOP IT.
Upset alert...
Pittsburgh 20, Notre Dame 6 (end of 3rd)
Pittsburgh 20, Notre Dame 6 (end of 3rd)
What a game...Bama with the late drive to get the win. But Les Miles, wow, some of the playcalling :uhoh:
OMG, I thought Bama had lost. Was really tired with a couple of minutes to go and LSU seemed to be in control. Just went to check the rankings and was shocked to see Bama 9-0.
A&M jumped on the inbreeds from Alabama 20-0 in the first quarter. Inbreeds scored next 17 but the fAggies have added a field goal.
23-17 in the fourth quarter.
23-17 in the fourth quarter.
A&M pulls off the upset, 29-24, with a goal-line interception with about 2:00 remaining. A defensive offside while A&M was setting up to punt with about 1:00 left ensured A&M could run out the clock.
Haha!
Now, let's hope there are at least 2 if not 3 unbeatens come season end. Let's see BCS justify putting a one-loss school over one or two unbeatens (as one unbeaten would be automatic, from Kansas State, Notre Dame, or Oregon as one unbeaten would easily top the BCS).
Haha!
Now, let's hope there are at least 2 if not 3 unbeatens come season end. Let's see BCS justify putting a one-loss school over one or two unbeatens (as one unbeaten would be automatic, from Kansas State, Notre Dame, or Oregon as one unbeaten would easily top the BCS).
All the unbeatens still have tough match ups left. I'm hoping the rest can run the table and Notre Dame gets left out. The outrage will be heard around the world if an undefeated ND is outside looking in.
And it would be just too.
If Notre Dame play in the BCS Championship game, I'm moving to Canada with the hillbillies.
Oregon would probably dominate Notre Dame and their no offense, granted they might actually top 20 points on Oregon's defense but I don't believe ND's defense has the speed to keep up with Oregon's offense. It would take a monumental collapse by Oregon to lose, like how the Ducks imploded against LSU to open the 2011 season.
I really don't know much about Kansas State except that I believe their QB should be the Heisman frontrunner at the moment and the head coach is a winner. But should KSU and ND meet that could be the game that ND manages to win. Ugh. However, watch out for Texas possibly knocking KSU off the unbeaten ranks.
Notre Dame as national champs would be a crock. Bring me an 8- or 16-team playoff, now.
I really don't know much about Kansas State except that I believe their QB should be the Heisman frontrunner at the moment and the head coach is a winner. But should KSU and ND meet that could be the game that ND manages to win. Ugh. However, watch out for Texas possibly knocking KSU off the unbeaten ranks.
Notre Dame as national champs would be a crock. Bring me an 8- or 16-team playoff, now.
An undefeated ND left out of the national championship game would go a long way to help a play off. Plus if they were left out and Kansas State was in......oh my. A dream situation.
It would be a travesty if ND gets a go ahead before K-state or Oregon for the National Championship game.
But you know it is going to happen because everyone loves them. I would hate it. feck the Irish!
But you know it is going to happen because everyone loves them. I would hate it. feck the Irish!
Upset Saturday and Notre Dame almost in the national championship game. Kill me now..
I see ND losing at USC, just a hunch despite how shitty USC have played this season.
Then Alabama rolls Georgia, and Florida, despite not having won their division let alone the conference, get in the title game against Alabama.
Bogus.
Edit: Just saw breaking news on SC that Barkley is going to miss the ND game so this should ensure an ND victory. However, one would think USC probably has another stud QB waiting for his chance to shine. Backup QBs you just never know what you might get. I recall McCoy getting knocked out against Alabama in the national title game and a freshman QB stepped in, rallied Texas, but ultimately they lost the game (and the final score didn't show how close the game actually was until a late 'Bama score then a Texas turnover and another score for Bama provided the margin of victory).
Personally want ND to win just to ensure no bullshit SEC teams in the title game, granted Alabama would probably roll ND by two or more touchdowns. Georgia could probably beat them too. How shitty would that be that a vastly overrated Georgia team would be crowned national champions.
Then Alabama rolls Georgia, and Florida, despite not having won their division let alone the conference, get in the title game against Alabama.
Bogus.
Edit: Just saw breaking news on SC that Barkley is going to miss the ND game so this should ensure an ND victory. However, one would think USC probably has another stud QB waiting for his chance to shine. Backup QBs you just never know what you might get. I recall McCoy getting knocked out against Alabama in the national title game and a freshman QB stepped in, rallied Texas, but ultimately they lost the game (and the final score didn't show how close the game actually was until a late 'Bama score then a Texas turnover and another score for Bama provided the margin of victory).
Personally want ND to win just to ensure no bullshit SEC teams in the title game, granted Alabama would probably roll ND by two or more touchdowns. Georgia could probably beat them too. How shitty would that be that a vastly overrated Georgia team would be crowned national champions.
Those stadiums are bleachers not individual seating which skewers the numbers. Colleges look to cram as many fans into a stadium as possible to maximize revenues while the NFL is an entertainment business and must accomodate fans much like other professional sporting leagues, entertainment industry, and cinemas do. NFL cannot go around building 100,000-seat stadiums for multiple reasons, one of which would be selling tickets with the high costs to attend, the other being the construction cost restrictions as they are funded differently (I do not see colleges with billion dollar stadiums for various reasons). College football is geared towards attendance like a family reunion while NFL is geared towards televising - they're business models are much different. Both are massive tailgaiting experiences too.
Very few schools have stadiums exceeding 60000 seating capacity, and most that do are the biggest and most attended/funded schools in the country, while all NFL stadiums top 60000, some former pro stadiums or Olympic venues; indeed most schools cannot 1) afford such venues, and 2) sellout regularly. Does anyone really believe Kentucky would have 100000 attend college football games on a weekly basis? How about Rice, or New Mexico State, or Duke?
Yes college football is woven into the local fabric and the fans often have a connection via current enrollment, alumni, lifelong fan, or sponsor. I find it fascinating and it's probably the closest Americans can get to what it's like to be a European football fan; there's also an abundance of raving lunatics that support a college/conference. I would certainly have a stronger connection to Texas had I attended the school but I'm just a fan that chose them as a kid. Same with the Cowboys as growing up in Fort Worth my family were diehards and thus I became one as well. College football ranked well behind NFL, MLB and NBA for most of my family and friends. I suspect it would have been different had I grown up in Austin.
The NFL is bigger in terms of revenues, ratings, viewership, etc., which must amount to something. The NFL is bigger than college football in metropolitan areas like Dallas-Fort Worth, Denver, Houston, Oakland, Pittsburgh, even small-city Green Bay not just the northeast. If the NFL wanted to place teams in small cities like Green Bay, in a relative short time the team would sink into the fabric of that location as well. However, that is not economically feasible in today's climate but the league did begin in that fashion (Canton, Green Bay, Rochester, etc) until westward expansion began in all sports. Colleges are the staple of a small city/town while NFL clubs are located in vast metropolitan areas with far more on offer than a small city/town has to offer, which is rather fascinating that a big city club/team can gain a strong foothold against what is on offer culturally and entertainment wise. It's rather easy being the big fish in a small pond, like Gerrard would tell you.
NFL games routinely dwarf college football ratings. A few weeks ago, Denver/New England had a 15 share nationally while LSU/Florida had 4.7 for a 3:30 start time (and not directly televised against one another either). Regionally the LSU/Florida game drew half the viewers than Miami/Cincinnati that same weekend... yes, Miami/Cincinnati. Another example is the BCS title game is now on a cable network - the Super Bowl would never leave a primetime network, and is often the highest viewed annual event on US television.
If 100000 bleacher capacity stadiums are the trump card then I suppose NASCAR is even bigger with more than 100000 attending race weekends. Even MLS tops attendance numbers of NBA and NHL and many MLB games - does this make the MLS better? Not at all.
Another thing - playoffs decide the champions not voters/computers telling fans who should play for a mythical national championship. Nor is there a bias towards certain conferences/divisons in the professional ranks. How NCAA has carried on for decades with this fraud of a system is a joke. And because of this we have seen historical conferences destroyed/bloated with schools jumping around to better their revenue streams and help create this conference bias we see today. One might retort that colleges do not relocate and unfortunately this does happen in pro sports, however only six times since the AFL/NFL merger has this occurred and the last was in 1997. I do not like it but this happens in all industry.
While I find college football fun to watch, most games are utter dross and often venture to the four-hour territory and the overall quality of play is nowhere near the NFL level. But being a distant second is not a bad thing.
Notre Dame vs. Alabama in the Championship Game? Nobody saw that coming pre-season. Of course USC (minus Barkley) is going to have a huge say in the matter.
The playoffs are coming in college football though I doubt it will got to 16 team. 8 teams will probably be the max it reaches. Although I should not underestimate the power of money to expand that playoffs into ridiculous levels. I think 4 to 8 teams would be the best way to go, it would give the most deserving teams a shot at the title.
Of course right now we would still see 2 to 4 SEC teams involved given how strong that league is.
The playoffs are coming in college football though I doubt it will got to 16 team. 8 teams will probably be the max it reaches. Although I should not underestimate the power of money to expand that playoffs into ridiculous levels. I think 4 to 8 teams would be the best way to go, it would give the most deserving teams a shot at the title.
Of course right now we would still see 2 to 4 SEC teams involved given how strong that league is.
The USC frosh QB is going to be a stud in the coming years.
I'm firmly on the Notre Dame wagon now, they looked quite impressive yesterday. Let's hope they knock off the SEC winner. Alabama because of the coach's arrogance and shadiness and their inbred fans, and Georgia because the coach is vastly overrated and their fans are a bunch of fecking morons.
So, Dear Santa, please give me 1) a Notre Dame championship, 2) Mack Brown fired and Chris Peterson named new HC, and 3) a blue chip QB recruit for Texas.
I'm firmly on the Notre Dame wagon now, they looked quite impressive yesterday. Let's hope they knock off the SEC winner. Alabama because of the coach's arrogance and shadiness and their inbred fans, and Georgia because the coach is vastly overrated and their fans are a bunch of fecking morons.
So, Dear Santa, please give me 1) a Notre Dame championship, 2) Mack Brown fired and Chris Peterson named new HC, and 3) a blue chip QB recruit for Texas.
Saban....arrogant....nooooo...
It's like choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea. The SEC smugness is unbearable whereas watching ND win the national title would be a dagger in the heart. Notre Dame is like the Liverpool of College Football. Hate their "fans" and the media love. The fecking Irish!
It's a tough choice but I hope that Bama gives them a proper shellacking.
Funny isn't it, Notre Dame fans will say the media hates them but people who hate Notre Dame say the media loves them. Now while I'm not from America and don't live there, I do read quite a few articles and watch whatever programmes they show here on Irish television. From what I've seen I don't think it's hugely biased one way or the other. Certain stations and personalities have their favourite teams and conferences but I certainly haven't noticed an overwhelming support for ND.
One thing that's for sure is when Notre Dame do well they will get column inches, but from what I've seen most pundits this year wrote them off throughout the season rather than jumping on the band wagon. Maybe it's worse in America but the ESPN shows we get over here don't seem to reflect that imo.
I fecking hate the goddamn SEC. I fecking hate hearing all these second-rate school fans from Georgia and Mississippi and whatnot pulling for "their conference." feck that shit. I would never root for Texas A&M to win a national title while they were in the same conference as Texas (and still wouldn't for the record). Same goes for Oklahoma (except when playing an SEC school).
You either choose the SEC-circlejerk or the Notre Dame circlejerk. No other options.
I simply can't stand mobile homes, toothless folks, and ignorant rednecks.
Choice is simple - Notre Dame. Already screwed twice by the refs (guy caught the pass, that was not a penalty on the punt as the blocker caused him to get inside the halo area).
Right now ND cannot handle Alabama's offensive line and speed. This might end up a massacre.
Choice is simple - Notre Dame. Already screwed twice by the refs (guy caught the pass, that was not a penalty on the punt as the blocker caused him to get inside the halo area).
Right now ND cannot handle Alabama's offensive line and speed. This might end up a massacre.
This is the worst mismatch I've seen in a "national title game" in years. Probably since Nebraska embarrassed Florida following the 1995 season.
Was rooting for ND just because they are ACC bound(well for everything but football)..Oh well, they are overrated beyond belief.
When it comes to football, I rather an ACC team win a game(well ACC teams sans VPI)
I'm waiting for Alabama's similar moment tonight. That's all that's missing from this near carbon-copy.
62-24... all Nebraska, all night
62-24... all Nebraska, all night
superb Interception- Bama killing Notre Dame
Getting ugly now. 35-0