Well, you rambled on about United having a lower salary bill literally in the post I quoted. The fact our wages were indeed higher in 2023 and you being so adamant nothing's changed vis-à-vis the size of Chelsea's overall wage bill should make it pretty obvious you think it will still be the case next year as well?
As for the numbers, I've provided them with lots of context. Experienced senior professionals on UCL salaries being replaced by players who've barely played any first team football in their careers so far should make it pretty obvious they're largely not going to be on the same kind of contracts, with the exception being what I've described as the few 'marquee' players who make up for a smaller portion of the overall squad and who even I believe are on considerably higher salaries.
Then you should read, understand and then reply instead of just banging keyboard with more nonsense. I said Chelsea have bigger wage bill than ManUtd, not Chelsea will have. Hard to understand? I'm posting facts, not pulling numbers out of arse like you did.
All the context, this, that nonsense we see every year for every club, I don't know what Chelsea wage bill will be, all I know is they have spent shit loads and we have to wait and see how big their wage bill is when they publish their financial repot.
I didn't say nothing has changed, I said Liverpool and now Chelsea do this PR nonsense and the total wage bill doesn't tally with what these journalists report. All I said is, I will only go by total wage bill that is reported in official financial report. It's really not hard to understand.
Does every other club also cut down their first team's squad size from 32+ first teamers to a more regular amount of players every year? Just business as usual for everyone, according to you?
Because that's what also happened and what you've been ignoring all along because you're so fecking hung up on what's been said about the high earners. In all my posts talking about the matter I've always pointed out I consider this year's smaller squad size to be the more deciding factor in total wages being lower. This part of the equation is not even something that is dependent on which source one chooses to believe for a certain player's salary etc. but just a cold hard fact.
As for cutting the 'high earners' part, that was exactly what happened at Arsenal a few years back btw. They got rid of a few top earners like Aubameyang, Willian and David Luiz in one go and went on to replace them with young players on lower wages and as a result their salary bill was trimmed by £30M+ between financial years 2021 and 2022. So it can definitely happen.
I gave you the example of the post I made 10 years ago, we had highest wage bill, we sold lot of high earners and signed relatively youngish players who were all reported to be on modest wages. When I did the calculation, out wage bill should have been lowered by 40 million but all I saw was it was growing every year.
Even going your point, you offloaded high earners, signed lot of players on relatively lower wages, brought down the squad size to smaller number, so all should add up to way smaller wage bill. When you said your wage bill will be around 330-340 million, that is when I said this doesn't add up as you are saying your replacement players are on smaller wage. That's when I said lets see how much is reported by Chelsea.
No idea because I'm not the one who posted it and that's not even the argument I've been making.
I've posted my reasons as to why I personally find it plausible to believe Palmer could be on around that kind of wages to start his career at the club with (+ possible incentives to increase it later into the deal) but without either of us actually seeing the contract there's no way we could actually know for certain. You have your opinion based on the context you're choosing to believe and I have mine.
By the way despite being asked you still haven't given any estimations on what kind of wages you believe Palmer is on if to you it's so unrealistic to believe he could be on around £80K or thereabout. The fact this issue seems like such an important hill for you to die on makes me think you must have a number in mind, so what is it?
I don't know and I don't guess. I will search for reliable journalist reporting wages, if it's not there then I won't make up any number. It's not really that hard, we don't have to guess every player's wage and try to sugar coat by saying how awesome your recruitment team is.
Player wages are usually relatively compared, so player who are way poorer than him are on high wages, so my assumption was 80K is unrealistic. If it's 80k base wage then it's believable as that would take his wage to 120-150k range.
Just to put it even simpler, I have seen fans doing this mental math every year and I have been guilty of that too. The numbers they come up with and the official numbers won't be even close. If you can guess the number then fair enough, right now I will take all this "our incentive contract" with pinch of salt. Lets see what Chelsea reports.