Hope the Qataris feel generous after a few years maybe.
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Hope the Qataris feel generous after a few years maybe.
People scrabbling to find out if this Finnish dude has enough money to placate them (ie bragging rights).
that bid is so hilarious that its almost like a child had done it
Government mandate is the only way in hell that I can imagine it ever happening and that won't happen.
It has its merits (except in respect of the decision making part). Many fans have been crying out for some sort of fan ownership model for years.
To reach half of the rumoured asking price (£3bn), one million fans would have to pay £3k each…so it’s not an outlandish idea. The main difficulty is in how these fans would be selected.
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Sports journos aren't experts though, unless Christo Grozev or somebody became one when I wasn't watching. They just rely on a general low level source who feeds info based on the brief of the day. So it's perfectly reasonable to expect their source to think the bids went through if that was the intention, without knowing about a hitch until later. It's not uncommon to brief generalities to low level staff, and let them catch up later if something unexpected happens and situations are fluid. It could be anything, from discovering there's a big fish bidding to a technicality. And there was obviously an intention to place the bid. You're being too hard on them.
At least the sports journos aren't claiming to know the composition of the other bidders or that it's just hedge fund/glazers etc, or how SJR will finance the club, or a million other claims people are making here.
Dream for who? Have you watched Welcome to Wrexham, the fans bought their club in an attempt to save it and ran it into the ground.
How would it work though? We can barely agree on anything in redcafe let alone if everyone is involved in decision making. Also, what is stopping Liverpool fans from buying into and troll the decision making?
Exactly, I don't know exactly the SEC regulations but surely driving a public sell with multiple bidders in order to increase the price can't be legal.
Jimmy probably needs time to evaluate the financial circumstances around the accident at his plant before committing to a 5bn purchase. Meanwhile, Mr. Jassim most definitely has the inside track and he is waiting to hear what his bid is before submitting his own.
That, or this is the usual communication breakdown before an imminent failure of a deal, which will see the Glazers remain in charge for the foreseeable future.
That, or this is the usual communication breakdown before an imminent failure of a deal, which will see the Glazers remain in charge for the foreseeable future.
feck yes, thats what I was hoping for.
Bald is clearly best in this era.
Given Barca's struggles I don't think it's all that tbh. Ultimately you need a great management team + a good coach. Regardless of the ownership model, things will work.
Yeah I’m aware of the pitfalls. I guess I just idealize the German (or more specifically Bayern) model. Not that it would necessarily work in England.
But anyway one can dream…
This is a valid point. If there was evidence to show Glazers had alternative intentions, there could be implications with allegations of stock price manipulation. Especially from where the price was before the sale news.
Having said all that, I think they are defo selling. I don’t believe the delay in the bid is due to the Glazers.
Yes, but the protests two years ago did. Was there anything like as much social media then? A couple of games called off, fans on the pitch. Mass coverage of all. The share price would absolutely tank as soon as they announced the deal was off and carry on with the protests. 2005’s a long time ago.
I know. I can’t see how that works at all. A couple of weeks back it was “the Glazers are going to set up a new “commercial arm”, of United which will make XXX, and that means they can borrow loads of money to set it up”
Yeah because Simon Stone is an ITK Reporter
Only if they sell shares on the open market at the same time. It's not illegal to start a genuine sale process and not conclude with a sale, unless the SEC can prove that's what was intended all along.
I hope you are joking. You cant be serious.
Bloody hell, can we put "exploring" in block capitals now?
I’m just using that example to demonstrate that the central concept isn’t outlandish.
Anyone panicking about this latest Elliot minority investment story, and honestly everyone else, should listen to this:
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/beyond-the-pitch/id1138471277?i=1000605215765
Spells out, very clearly, why the chances of the rats staying are slim to none. Bout 20 mins in.
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/beyond-the-pitch/id1138471277?i=1000605215765
Spells out, very clearly, why the chances of the rats staying are slim to none. Bout 20 mins in.
Yes it is the Bayern Munich model then that would be ideal.
None of us get paid to make up shit, to be fair
True, but most of us would accept payment for it if offered
As I thought.
People scrabbling to find out if this Finnish dude has enough money to placate them (ie bragging rights).
Never heard of him so I Googled his net worth.
This is the best I could find.
622 THOUSAND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
Whatever that is in billions.
This particular bid mentions half of the club being owned by fans, so it would depend on the numbers (people never tire of repeating how many fans the club has) and whether it’s tiered or not.
I don't think so they're just cranking up the drama to squeeze every last penny they can out of United before they feck off. Wouldn't surprise me if they've tipped one of the buyers off what the other was bidding.
People scrabbling to find out if this Finnish dude has enough money to placate them (ie bragging rights).
Guy’s doing a gofundme bid. Fan involvement is cool and all, but it doesn’t instil a lot of confidence
Going to Pool then...
Can we assume he is also a life long United fan and was at the 1991 Cup final in Rotterdam?
Dunno. I googled and he was living in a $10milliom apartment
You never know mate. If Jim and Jassim sign up there's 6 quid for a start.
I’m guessing that’s why it’s set at 6b so they get the loan they want from that price.
They won't give a flying fiddler's feck.
This is a good one. How it Jim Ratcliffe a "generational recipient of success on the backs of English Slavery and colonialism"
He grew up in a council house, with a father who was a joiner and a mother who worked in an accounts office.
Ratcliffe is the very proof that anyone can make it people claim doesn't exist.
So Glazers leveraging takeover amounts touted to get a better value loan/minority investment?
Bad news for the club if so
Bad news for the club if so
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