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Agreed. Possibly complicates the qatari bid as well, though I'd say it can still happen.
If its been done by UK government then it wont impact Qatar bid. UK government arm twisted PL to accept PIF bid for Newcastle.
 
This is highly relevant. This is another defeat for the glazers and I actually think it makes a full sale inevitable now, if it wasn’t before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536218

I think its a lot more complicated than that. It's a legal minefield. A Tory appointee overlooking a private entity? Hmmmm...

Also if the EFL gets what they want, that is 25% of total TV revenues -- as opposed to the 16% already. Or £400+ million versus £625million quid annually.
There will be increasing revenue/cost pressures, especially on the top 6 teams (if not the top 8 teams.) The big teams will need to look for revenue streams elsewhere once the TV broadcast revenues start to level out. Once way to manage this, is if they can cap their salaries. But that would be deterimental to the PL itself.

Another issue -- the last EL match between Barca and United had 115million viewers compared to say 15-30 million viewerrs for a CL match that same night? I am sure all broadcasters will have to re-think about the current business model. It maybe inevitable.

And you assume the Glazer Bros know this -- and therefore, are flirting with the possibility of holding out? But they need cashflow to do that, thus the motley crew of financiers.
 
How? They're a small minority.

It's a public company so most of the shares are publicly traded. They are by far the biggest single shareholder.

If you look at it that way Elon Musk is a small minority shareholder of Tesla.
 
I think its a lot more complicated than that. It's a legal minefield. A Tory appointee overlooking a private entity? Hmmmm...

Also if the EFL gets what they want, that is 25% of total TV revenues -- as opposed to the 16% already. Or £400+ million versus £625million quid annually.
There will be increasing revenue/cost pressures, especially on the top 6 teams (if not the top 8 teams.) The big teams will need to look for revenue streams elsewhere once the TV broadcast revenues start to level out. Once way to manage this, is if they can cap their salaries. But that would be deterimental to the PL itself.

Another issue -- the last EL match between Barca and United had 115million viewers compared to say 15-30 million viewerrs for a CL match that same night? I am sure all broadcasters will have to re-think about the current business model. It maybe inevitable.

And you assume the Glazer Bros know this -- and therefore, are flirting with the possibility of holding out? But they need cashflow to do that, thus the motley crew of financiers.
No, I personally think achieving the ESL dream was the modus operandi for the glazers and I think that announcement of this regulator - which was pertinently introduced in response to the ESL (was already conceived but accelerated thereafter), is a massive roadblock in the way of that ever happening.

Therefore I think the glazers are less likely to stay. As you say, the ability to grow the value of the club may level out somewhat. Not sure that broadcasting revenues will do so any time soon though.
 
I've been here since 2002 and I swear to god I've never seen a more boring thread as this one.
 
Pretty sure the government are actively welcoming investment from Qatar specifically - see government press release from just 2 days ago.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...qatar-and-the-united-kingdom-joint-communique
As an outsider, their co-operation matters very little. But what about you guys who are from the UK and against United Qatari takeover due part of their culture that you don't agree with and yet your lives are already affected by them (economically). "Qatar and the United Kingdom share a vital and flourishing trade and investment partnership, with a total trade volume of over £12.1 billion in the past year, contributing to supporting jobs, innovation and economic development in both countries". £12.1 billion is huge and seeing that article it will only grow regardless of United take over or not.
 
It's a public company so most of the shares are publicly traded. They are by far the biggest single shareholder.

If you look at it that way Elon Musk is a small minority shareholder of Tesla.
So what? They're still a tiny minority of the whole.
 
I've been here since 2002 and I swear to god I've never seen a more boring thread as this one.

Yep I don't know why I keep coming back. There was briefly a tweets only thread that was good but that seems to have died out?
 
It's a public company so most of the shares are publicly traded. They are by far the biggest single shareholder.

If you look at it that way Elon Musk is a small minority shareholder of Tesla.
Only a small % is actually listed and they are non-voting shares, the Glazers hold all the voting shares so the public shareholders have no say in this process.
 
Only a small % is actually listed and they are non-voting shares, the Glazers hold all the voting shares so the public shareholders have no say in this process.

We're discussing QIB. And the fact QIA hold something like 3/4 of the non-floating shares.
 
Qatari oil, gas and investment in the UK good. Qatari buying Manchester United bad. Qatari dude not a true fan. Chelsea season ticket holder Jimmy Brexit is.
This

That rigid and hypocritical stance of theirs really baffles my mind.
 
Funny with Xavi publically stating he supports the Qatari bid because he "worked there" for 6 months. Reminded me of this story, Xavi had a nice surprise when he conveniently "won" a lottery organised by a Qatari bank (a bank with the State and QIA as large shareholders funnily enough).

Surprise

The very nature of company ownership in the country means that all the highest performing/most prestigious companies are owned by the same shareholders. There will always be an attachment to the state and the main state players. What people have to decide is if the state will have any influence in the day to day running of the club, other than possibly providing money.
 
I had a look through. It is stated that 76% of total shares are floated in the stock exchange. I could not find the part that mentions that 3/4 of the non-floated shares are held by QIA.

The shareholders are listed just below that, they have 17% and then next person has 6
 
Qatari oil, gas and investment in the UK good. Qatari buying Manchester United bad. Qatari dude not a true fan. Chelsea season ticket holder Jimmy Brexit is.
Can we get this as the TLDR; for this entire thread. Masterpiece.
 
Funny with Xavi publically stating he supports the Qatari bid because he "worked there" for 6 months. Reminded me of this story, Xavi had a nice surprise when he conveniently "won" a lottery organised by a Qatari bank (a bank with the State and QIA as large shareholders funnily enough).

Surprise

The very nature of company ownership in the country means that all the highest performing/most prestigious companies are owned by the same shareholders. There will always be an attachment to the state and the main state players. What people have to decide is if the state will have any influence in the day to day running of the club, other than possibly providing money.

6 years. Not months.
 
The shareholders are listed just below that, they have 17% and then next person has 6
Yes I can see that QIA has around 17%, while Jassim himself holds around 6%.

But this does not corroborate your claim, and I quote, "the fact QIA holds 3/4 of the non-floating shares".

It seems like this is not a fact, as you claim.
 
Can somone defend this?

Nope. If they force the 25% of total TV revenues to go through on some populist BS (which is what they have been spewing out eg coded words like 'heritage' ), you can bet that the Big Six will be looking at alternatives.
 
Can we get this as the TLDR; for this entire thread. Masterpiece.

I can add more if you want. We are open to business but no US investment, no ME investment, no Chinese investment and no Russian investment. That apply only to football erm no to United only. Qatari investment is great for the rest and no protests are made whenever qatar buy yet another piece of the UK,the UK buy gas, oil etc, it sells weapons or its national team plays a major event there. Ah and I almost forgot don't mention any reparations funds towards former colonies, any talk of Churchill being removed as the father of the nation for crimes done under his watch or the return of that famous Indian diamond the Royal family still has in its possession. Those are all no no.

Meanwhile Debt is not allowed (so only filthy rich people) unless its done by Ratcliffe which makes it ok
 
Qatari oil, gas and investment in the UK good. Qatari buying Manchester United bad. Qatari dude not a true fan. Chelsea season ticket holder Jimmy Brexit is.
No childish nicknames for United legends in there.

I'm disappointed.
 
I can add more if you want. We are open to business but no US investment, no ME investment, no Chinese investment and no Russian investment. That apply only to football erm no to United only. Qatari investment is great for the rest and no protests are made whenever qatar buy yet another piece of the UK,the UK buy gas, oil etc, it sells weapons or its national team plays a major event there. Ah and I almost forgot don't mention any reparations funds towards former colonies, any talk of Churchill being removed as the father of the nations for crimes done under his watch or the return of that famous Indian diamond the Royal family still has in its possession

Meanwhile Debt is not allowed (so only filthy rich people) unless its dons by Ratcliffe.
TLDR; = Too long didn't read.

If you add more it kind of defies the point of TLDR, let's keep the original but I agree.
 
TLDR; = Too long didn't read.

If you add more it kind of defies the point of TLDR, let's keep the original but I agree.

Fair enough. I thought you were referring to the youtube channel
 
It's a public company so most of the shares are publicly traded. They are by far the biggest single shareholder.

If you look at it that way Elon Musk is a small minority shareholder of Tesla.

It's so crazy. The list is like this.

1. QIA 17.2 %
2. Jassim Al-Thani 6,78 %
3. The Vanguard Group 2.44 %
4. BlackRock Fund Advisors 1.38 %

These are the only parties with ownership above 1 %, and Vanguard/BlackRock obviously aren't actively running the company because they're Vanguard and BlackRock. The state and Al-Thani are the only big sharesholders at all, and they don't run the company?
 
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