A nothing statement, no details, all wishy washy with no detail.
I want to see a detailed plan from all bidders.
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A nothing statement, no details, all wishy washy with no detail.
I want to see a detailed plan from all bidders.
Yeah I have to say I think the INEOS / Ratcliffe statement kind of reeks to be honest. But on the other hand I don't feel like sitting here and actively wishing for the Qatari's to come out on top.
Serious question, why doesn't Jim buy Oldham if he's looking for a long term project or legacy? He's from there right? Why's he so intent on United?
Dividend, we all know it.
Unlikely how?
Glazers have sucked this club dry for 17 years, and if they can stay in the club longer and leech more they will.
Read that statement and keep in mind echoes coming out of the club regarding Joel and Avram Glazer wanting to retain a minority share in the club makes this unlikely?
Looking forward to your reply.
I haven't allowed people to needlessly die under my control. I suppose that's something eh?
Glad we’re all picking up on “majority ownership” there, utterly terrifying to be dramatic.
Hopefully Qataris blow this out of the water.
Hopefully Qataris blow this out of the water.
Hes a boyhood United fan.
He only went to Chelsea games because he lived in London and loved football but I think its made clear United is his club.
Are people really that sure Qatar owners wont interfere with footballing decisions regarding players bought, undermining manager etc? Because PSG is a disaster where exactly that was happening.
I've been won over by the idea of Qatar putting in serious money off the pitch, but Previously when he was the only one expressing interest I was very open to Ineos and Ratcliffe coming in.
But with a bid funded by just moving the debt to a different bank, little talk of significant infrastructure investment and reports that he is only bidding for majority ownership (leaving room for bankers or the Glazers) ....the Ineos bid is getting less and less attractive even beyond the temptation of vast oil momey.
But with a bid funded by just moving the debt to a different bank, little talk of significant infrastructure investment and reports that he is only bidding for majority ownership (leaving room for bankers or the Glazers) ....the Ineos bid is getting less and less attractive even beyond the temptation of vast oil momey.
City/United being a proxy for a Qatar/Abu Dhabi rivaly would be an interesting dynamic.
You really see JR going in to bed with the Glazers as part of his bid when he wants to bring the club back to its roots? And he’s seen how much they are hated and what they’ve done to the club?
If you enjoy pure fantasy to find a negative sure. Crack on.
At this point, I don't care much about ownership as long as the glazes get out. The club has seen no investment, no infra upgrade and huge amount of debt saddled on its shoulders. Just about anyone getting us a new stadium and competitive investment in the squad with the football structure in place will do. No need for nonsense city or Chelsea level spending either. Just do what is right.
Besides, I'll anyway have to make my peace with whatever decision is made and frankly anything will be a vast improvement over our current situation
Besides, I'll anyway have to make my peace with whatever decision is made and frankly anything will be a vast improvement over our current situation
You claimed that he has ridiculous control and now pivoted to something that has nothing to do with control. Also Mbappé has never been a hard working attacker and it would be extremely strange for any manager to drop a player that is currently on 20 goals in 26 CL and league games. I don't know which manager would drop him easily.
If anyone says they're sure, they're an idiot. It's quite literally impossible for them to know what the approach to the football side of things would be at this point.
Go on Jim
Right but chances are we wont get a detailed plan from anyone. So based on the two statements from those two bidders, who you backing?
With the KSA at Newcastle, we are only lacking Iranians owning a PL team
I would if SJR knows this and that's why the INEOS bid and statement is so vague and half arsed. They know they don't really stand a chance but wanted to show the fans that they were serious and did try anyway
Wow i don`t know who enjoys pure fantasy
Sorry if i would think such a think about your pal Jimbo.
He is undroppable because he is one of the best players in the world and the best PSG player. That's about as undroppable as one can get
They don’t get to dictate what people offer though, they bring nothing to the table for any investor so no incentive to keep them on in any capacity.
The simplest explanation is the most likely, the Glazers are majority owners, they’ve put their shares up for sale and INEOS have bid to buy those shares. Qatari’s want the shares on Stock Exchange as well as Glazers’ but INEOS don’t.
Enjoy City winning 10 of the next 15 titles.
Would be a Boehly kind of owner who guarantees investments in the infrastructure but doesn't go crazy in the transfer market really bad?
Ok, now i am scared. IF that "majority ownership" means that Glazers can stay then it is for them very tempting offer. Get 4 billion in cash and still get dividends and shit every year. Plus they can wait year, two or ten and sell the rest when price will be higher.
I am afraid that Qatari are fecked.
I am afraid that Qatari are fecked.
He can't afford United and it seems like he wants to keep the Glazers involved and keep the current debt. If he was a boyhood United fan he wouldn't want any of that to happen.
I think if anyone says for sure that any form of ownership doesn’t interfere with the manager then they’re an idiot. Not even Ferguson got full rein. Plus any form of ownership could be a failure, some more likely than others.
Nah, he's physically unable to keep his mouth shut and would have been tweeting about this in the middle of the night already. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Anyway it was reported that the Harris-Blitzer group who owns the Philadelphia 76ers was interested at some point, could be them.
What's the issue with Glazers having a minority stake?
The nightmare continues.
These old cnuts need to let go of the reigns
DIVIDENDS.
Not sure why SJR would want to put up with more fan protests and bad publicity by keeping the Glazers around. If he did that, then I can't see too many people being happy. Fans want the Glazers out and if SJR keeps them around and leeching from the club, the the protests will keep going I bet
Seriously?
Yeah. Like, can they use it to interfere? I don't know how this stuff works.
If people's heads hadn't been turned by Qatar then they'd be loving this Sir Jim bid, and see him as saving us from the Glazers.
As it stands there could be alot of resentment towards him if he's successful, which would be a shame. It's still a really good option.
As it stands there could be alot of resentment towards him if he's successful, which would be a shame. It's still a really good option.
Not really big on SJR, but the majority stake could mean him buying the Glazers out completely. Maybe he does not feel the class A shares are as valuable to be bought out right now, so a controlling stake would only require what the Glazers hold.
As far his offer is concerned, not sure if the reported 4B offer is for the majority stake or the valuation they put for the club and potentially buying the Glazers out at that valuation. Would make sense for them as they save having to spend a billion or more for now and can maybe buyout the remaining listed shares later on at a much lesser price since the stock has rallied a lot for the time being. Would be a smart business decision too.
I know the anti-Qatar brigade try to rile up anyone who is fine with the Qatar bid, but I feel the pro-Qatar posters are now just making assumptions and stating them as facts regarding SJR's bid.
Though one thing is absolutely clear - there needs to be more clarity on SJR's bid as their statement leaves a lot of questions unanswered and can easily be consumed and portrayed as very negative even if it's not.
As far his offer is concerned, not sure if the reported 4B offer is for the majority stake or the valuation they put for the club and potentially buying the Glazers out at that valuation. Would make sense for them as they save having to spend a billion or more for now and can maybe buyout the remaining listed shares later on at a much lesser price since the stock has rallied a lot for the time being. Would be a smart business decision too.
I know the anti-Qatar brigade try to rile up anyone who is fine with the Qatar bid, but I feel the pro-Qatar posters are now just making assumptions and stating them as facts regarding SJR's bid.
Though one thing is absolutely clear - there needs to be more clarity on SJR's bid as their statement leaves a lot of questions unanswered and can easily be consumed and portrayed as very negative even if it's not.
I mean it sounds fine theoretically, I just don't have much faith it'll occur. The Glazers have even managed to turn their finally fecking off into something depressing.
Gosh you are very exercised to defend the ownership and running of PSG. Did you like Messi's little gown at the World Cup, too?
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