Probably because nobody is listening. They all have oil in their ears!
Club Sale | It’s done!
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City and Chelsea would not be the global powerhouse clubs they currently are had they not been purchased by Abu Dhabi and Abramovich. United's status as a global powerhouse club has long been established, and was established as a result of the club’s accomplishment on the pitch. The club’s current ownership acts to its detriment, and that hasn’t stopped anyone from reveling in what the Glazers have done to our club. Them’s the break mate.
Are they listed on an exchange? If so they have investors they have to keep happy and debt to the tune of £5b that has to be serviced is not what investors want to hear.
Chairmen or owners can remove money from the club in the form of a "management fee" at regular intervals. I'm not saying they wouldn't pursue more growth and revenue first but ultimately that debt has to be paid off and the other owners of INEOS won't be happy about their money being used to pay debt on a football team.
If they’re winning 4 out of 5 league titles and are getting closer and closer to cracking CL then I’d cry. It would never stop.
At least doing it the right way has tension, it has stakes. Do it wrong and look where they are now. Oil money gives them Jude Bellingham or that French midfielder last summer at the very least.
You mean the one that isn’t dead?!Genuinely meant the other one
I’d have sold feck all. Oddly enough I don’t get to fecking choose. In fact I quite literally said if I had a choice I’d choose Jim so you can take that patronising preaching tone elsewhere.
No, they are a Ltd company not a PLC.
The idea they can just quit is simply deluded. I'd forgotten about the passport confiscation bit.
The Glazers aren't walking away from 6 billion dollars that's for sure.
On number 4 it was reported the loan would only be the size of our current debt, not for the club.
I'm all in Qatar personally.
Yes I was looking forward to Glazers going away but not to then be bought by a state with unlimited wealth and questionable history. If we are self sustainable then we do not need to be associated with such regimes and be answerable for all the baggage they come with. A normal rich billionaire looking for some steady gains from investing in us would have been just fine.
How do the other shareholders feel about the £5b loan they're about to be lumbered with and yet have nothing to do with Manchester United?
People spout things like this, but I guarantee you won't watch United any differently.
Would our game tonight feel any different if the Saudis or Qatar owned us? not a chance.
I get why people are upset and it's fair enough, but United are entertainment, and if it means we can be more successful and keep enjoying great nights like tonight, then i'm all for it.
So a loan to pay the debt but also taking on debt to pay that debt that will then be paid off by the club anyway? No thanks
The revenue of United is paltry in comparison to INEOS. They certainly wouldn't need to dip in to the coffers of United to pay off a loan
Buy UTD and then sell PSG, this shall be their strategy.
Absolutely NO domestic rival fanbase is ecstatic about the prospect of the Qataris or Saudis owning us
. That's pure yarn spinning to say so.There's a palpable fear on socials over where that might leave their respective clubs giving such financial resources to a an already behemoth of a club. I'm sure it's more of the same on their respective forums.
That's why you see people begging for UEFA or the FA to step in and block it if it goes down. Everyone knows that Manchester United unrestrained would be a true force to be reckoned with on all fronts in perpetuity
Dunno mate, haven’t asked them.
Normal rich billionaires who have 6bn liquid lying around and are interested in football and willing to spend it aren't a big group
It's not even the reply but what he was replying to which was a post that pointed out that United are in a completely different position to Chelse/City and will not operate in the same way they did, nor do we need to.
Exactly. Only in the CAF could we be sick of winning before we actually start winning
Shall we see what Lewis Hamilton thinks? I'd like to know personally
You can always choose. You can choose not to support a club owned by a dictatorship regime that oppresses its people and deprives them of basic human rights.
My understanding is INEOS would purchase the club however they do.
INEOS would take out a loan to pay off the existing debt or have that debt transferred to them if that's doable and they would take on the risk.
The club would be debt free and owned outright by INEOS who would only owe whatever the debt currently stands at which to them is probably at write off levels of money.
The was literally a Chelsea fan in here yesterday (@Zaphod2319 ) saying he’s begging for the Glazers to stay and put more on us ..
They all want us ruined and have lapped up our struggles
They all want us ruined and have lapped up our struggles
He won’t tell you. He knows but he’s not saying.
But it still hasn’t been leaked out what he’s do about stadium and training ground. That’s an extra 2b on top
If he had a plan to do something it would be revealed by now imo
Understood. I don't see how that loan will not become United's responsibility at some point however. Abramovich would regularly pay Chelsea fees and state that it was a 'loan' from him to the club, INEOS could do the same to pay of their loan.
Social media has gone into complete meltdown with rival fans saying this can’t be allowed to happen. It actually feels like the Fergie days where everyone hated everything about us.
We usually spend that anyway. We have matched City pound for pound in the market. We've just not matched them off the pitch in the infrastructure because the Glazers don't care about this club.
Still don't want the Qataris though. Loads of money yea but I'd feel very uneasy being used to sports wash their image.
No idea, we keep hearing the word "legacy" whenever he's mentioned though, whatever that means
It's these 2 other dudes:
https://www.ineos.com/about/our-leadership/#:~:text=INEOS is led by its,Andy Currie and John Reece.
It seems to me like they have a voice, but ultimately have to go along with whatever Sir Jim wants to do.
Pretty shit deal for them two, unless the idea is to loan United the money to pay of the debt then United pay them back
I could. I’m not going too though. I disassociate the ownership from the club. And no amount of judgement from you is going to change that. Thanks.
Glazers to make £6b+ from £200m. They've had worse days haven't they?
I think most people will support the club regardless, it's an intrinsic part of who people are at this point.
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