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Brophs said:
I know sportswashing is supposed to be effective but I doubt even the Qataris expected it to be this quick. We’re already dismissing the actions of human rights groups as bitterness over the success we haven’t had yet under an owner who hasn’t bought us yet.
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We're being dismissive of human rights groups protesting for sporting reasons. It's none of their business if Qatar owns both PSG and United really.

The thing they should be protesting is the sportwashing. Or atleast protest along the lines of hey you're doubling the amount of sportwashing by having two clubs.
 
Will be interesting to see how UEFA handle's the ownership issue. With the Red Bull precedent the Qatari's should have an idea what to do but I'm not sure both scenarios are totally comparable.
 
devilish said:
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I hope it's high speed bullet train-like.
 
AlexUTD said:
Well my friend, cause we have a world class manager who knows what player types we need and without a debt holding us back we will actually be a threat going forward! :cool:
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yep, I cannot wait for us to be taken over. I hope its someone rich enough to build us the state of the art training facility and stadium too.

Ten Hag also needs to be backed with whoever he wants, he has shown me enough that he is the right man to get us the big trophies.
 
Teja said:
We're being dismissive of human rights groups protesting for sporting reasons. It's none of their business if Qatar owns both PSG and United really.

The thing they should be protesting is the sportwashing. Or atleast protest along the lines of hey you're doubling the amount of sportwashing by having two clubs.
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They're doing that because they've tried protesting about the sportswashing with previous takerovers and the authorities havent given a shit so are trying to find another avenue to keep this ownership away from the club. I'm going to suggest that a human rights group aren't actually upset specifically about a potential breach of the rules regarding 2 clubs having common owners.
 
Jumping the gun a bit there by 'Fair and Square' because Qatar haven't even bid for us and no one knows the identity of the group they will use if they decide to acquire the club. Then is the small matter of the Red Bull precedent, Qatar can argue that these are effectively two different organizations whereas the bar for Red Bull was set pretty low so all that is needed, in my view, is to prove that the two clubs won't have the same top management.

The FA can't talk about PSG when PSG arent in the PL and they (the PL and FA) don't run the CL. The biggest obstacle will be the difference in valuation as the two most influential Glazers look like reluctant sellers so they will be asking for a King's Ransom whilst Qatar wont want to overpay knowing the off field and on pitch issues we have that need a lot of money to solve.
 
Telsim said:
Moot point. They haven't said they will get rid of him either. The most recent owner to come in and sack a coach was American, by the way. A very questionable decision in retrospect, to say the least. Newcastle on the other hand have done splendidly ever since. There are no guarantees with any owner in this regard. And to be brutally honest, if Ten Hag is the price to get rid of the leeches, I would see him out myself.

The thing about Pep is absolute nonsense.
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Any more nonsensical than City's owners trying to gazump us for Berbatov within hours of taking over? Or Boehly coming in and spending a billion pounds?

These prestige-driven owners want to make a big feck off statement as soon as they arrive. Guardiola is the most high-profile coach in the world and luring him away from City would be a major thumb in the eye for the UAE.

Guardiola's also been an ambassador for Qatar in the past hasn't he?

Now whether he would accept the offer seems altogether less likely. But it won't stop the Qataris from trying...
 
Brophs said:
I know sportswashing is supposed to be effective but I doubt even the Qataris expected it to be this quick. We’re already dismissing the actions of human rights groups as bitterness over the success we haven’t had yet under an owner who hasn’t bought us yet.
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It is unbelievable. We've got a thread full of people denigrating Amnesty International and other human rights groups, because United might buy Mbappe.
 
I am pretty sure that UEFA will listen to the complaints from a human rights group against a potential bid lead the chairman of the European Club Association (who is part of UEFA).
 
cyberman said:
Yeah but we and PSG aren’t in the same competition now? When the sale is going through?
How can we be banned for something that actually hasn’t happened? If it’s what can happen in the future then 100 percent the likes of Girona should be looked at
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We more than likely will be. It's a BS logic to allow it just because we aren't clashing in one season.
 
AneRu said:
Jumping the gun a bit there by 'Fair and Square' because Qatar haven't even bid for us and no one knows the identity of the group they will use if they decide to acquire the club. Then is the small matter of the Red Bull precedent, Qatar can argue that these are effectively two different organizations whereas the bar for Red Bull was set pretty low so all that is needed, in my view, is to prove that the two clubs won't have the same top management.

The FA can't talk about PSG when PSG arent in the PL and they (the PL and FA) don't run the CL. The biggest obstacle will be the difference in valuation as the two most influential Glazers look like reluctant sellers so they will be asking for a King's Ransom whilst Qatar wont want to overpay knowing the off field and on pitch issues we have that need a lot of money to solve.
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We will be in the CL/Europe by virtue of a certain Mr. Al Khelafi being one of the most influential members of the UEFA committee.

They will be allowed in the PL because Saudi Arabia/Abu Dhabi have set the precedent and also because Qatar owns half of London and have political ties that go far beyond football in the UK.

Lets see if they are really serious about buying our club though. We also have to wait for the Glazers to accept. Who knows with those greedy cnuts.
 
Teja said:
We're being dismissive of human rights groups protesting for sporting reasons. It's none of their business if Qatar owns both PSG and United really.

The thing they should be protesting is the sportwashing. Or atleast protest along the lines of hey you're doubling the amount of sportwashing by having two clubs.
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Agree. They've got a very strong case if they stick to human rights. Why bring a (relatively) meaningless football tournament into it?
 
If we're being honest with ourselves it is shady as feck being owned by the same cnuts who bankroll PSG. I couldn't care less though. :lol:

And with a few brown envelopes their way neither will Uefa or the FA.
 
devilish said:
Has there been a time when we weren't owned by them?
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Since the 60s we've been run by a jumped-up meat-packer who was the subject of a TV expose into dodgy business practices, a peeping Tom with a penchant for ladies' toilets, a bunch of faceless shareholders and a family of lower-order rat people.

So not for a while, no..
 
devilish said:
Has there been a time when we weren't owned by them?
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They just get cnutier and cnutier. Make no mistake these lot are grade A ones. We're powerless and I love watching United too much to walk away. So I'll just reminisce on a time when the cnutish level wasn't as high.
 
JohnnyKills said:
Since the 60s we've been run by a jumped-up meat-packer who was the subject of a TV expose into dodgy business practices, a peeping Tom with a penchant for ladies' toilets, a bunch of faceless shareholders and a family of lower-order rat people.

So not for a while, no..
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and who's to say Jim Ratcliffe doesn't like to sniff around and all?
 
Godfather said:
Will be interesting to see how UEFA handle's the ownership issue. With the Red Bull precedent the Qatari's should have an idea what to do but I'm not sure both scenarios are totally comparable.
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If the Qatari bidders - in control of a rich state with all the capabilities that fact brings, having know for at least three months that United are available for sale and having had Avram Glazer in Qatar for a few days fall foul of this rule then it would be incompetence of monumental proportions on their part.

They literally have the ability to create a few multibillionaires from thin air, get them to set up a consortium with no links to the state and do the deal. If Red Bull could get around these rules then they can too, easily.
 
Spoony said:
They just get cnutier and cnutier. Make no mistake these lot are grade A ones. We're powerless and I love watching United too much to walk away. So I'll just reminisce on a time when the cnutish level wasn't as high.
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That's because the more successful the club is, the more expensive it becomes which means that only the cnutiest of cnuts can afford it. I don't get this sport washing thing at all. Most fans can make a clear distinction between the club and what it represents and the people who own it. Also its not as if we have a choice on the matter.
 
Rolaholic said:
Would've been the case no matter the buyer at this level :lol:
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Glazers pale in comparsion to some of these. Actually wouldn't mind if they could find some minority investment to wipe the debt and fix/rebuild the stadium.
 
Spoony said:
They just get cnutier and cnutier. Make no mistake these lot are grade A ones. We're powerless and I love watching United too much to walk away. So I'll just reminisce on a time when the cnutish level wasn't as high.
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It's always been high though hasn't it, even among the players.

Look at our 99 team - a vacuous narcissist on one wing, a serial philanderer on the other and a mad bully in the middle. How many of them would you want to go for a beer with?
 
devilish said:
That's because the more successful the club is, the more expensive it becomes which means that only the cnutiest of cnuts can afford it. I don't get this sport washing thing at all. Most fans can make a clear distinction between the club and what it represents and the people who own it. Also its not as if we have a choice on the matter.
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We're between a rock and a hard place to be fair. The idea of the Glazers's staying is sickening.
 
JohnnyKills said:
It's always been high though hasn't it, even among the players.

Look at our 99 team - a vacuous narcissist on one wing, a serial philanderer on the other and a mad bully in the middle. How many of them would you want to go for a beer with?
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Irwin, Gaz and Ronnie Johnsen weren't that bad. ;)
 
cyberman said:
There’s no such talk over Nice and Jim. It doesn’t to even be the same competition anymore since 3rd placed teams in the groups fall down to EL. There’s a realistic chance that we could be in the same European competition next year yet not one mention of it
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Pretty concerning no one even thinks Jim can get Nice into the CL.
 
JohnnyKills said:
It's always been high though hasn't it, even among the players.

Look at our 99 team - a vacuous narcissist on one wing, a serial philanderer on the other and a mad bully in the middle. How many of them would you want to go for a beer with?
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Each one.
 
Godfather said:
Will be interesting to see how UEFA handle's the ownership issue. With the Red Bull precedent the Qatari's should have an idea what to do but I'm not sure both scenarios are totally comparable.
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The UEFA has no legimate reasons to stop it, there are too many precedents. There are clubs that owns other clubs, Monaco and Cercle Bruge being an example. Also Ineos already owns 2 clubs and people aren't as vocal about preventing them or Ratcliffe to purchase United. Also City owners own I don't know many clubs across Europe.
 
JPRouve said:
The UEFA has no legimate reasons to stop it, there are too many precedents. There are clubs that owns other clubs, Monaco and Cercle Bruge being an example. Also Ineos already owns 2 clubs and people aren't as vocal about preventing them or Ratcliffe to purchase United. Also City owners own I don't know many clubs across Europe.
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None of these are the European powerhouses that are PSG and Man United.
 
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