Club Sale | It’s done!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
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Well my friend, cause we have a world class manager who knows what player types we need and without a debt holding us back we will actually be a threat going forward!
A human rights group has asked UEFA to not allow this because Qatar owns PSG?
What is the connection here?
Yeah, they can’t. feck knows what legal eagle they employed or how they analysed ownership but this fair square group needs a refund
Still can't believe that is allowed. It's a joke situation.
Rival fans shitting themselves and others using lobby groups to try and block this from happening is making me want this takeover to go through even more.
I was thinking this.A human rights group has asked UEFA to not allow this because Qatar owns PSG?
What is the connection here?
fecks sake, well be stuck with the glazers, I can see this being a huge sticking point, at some point I think well just get outright blocked by the premier league, dont they have like a fit and proper test or something.
For sure remember when Lampard joined New York City then was playing for City a few days later on loan
With all the good news coming out the club recently, I’m starting to worry about tonight’s result. Good to see Human Rights organisations getting involved.
Non starter IMO
If they blocked Qatar owning United, you’d assume Qatar could then withdraw a lot of their support/funding within football and make things quite uncomfortable for a lot of them
If they blocked Qatar owning United, you’d assume Qatar could then withdraw a lot of their support/funding within football and make things quite uncomfortable for a lot of them
There’s no such talk over Nice and Jim. It doesn’t to even be the same competition anymore since 3rd placed teams in the groups fall down to EL. There’s a realistic chance that we could be in the same European competition next year yet not one mention of it
Yeah, same comp.
I'm sure UEFA will listen to *checks notes* FairSquare. War chest is not happening folks.
Honestly, I am not at all afraid of Jim R buying United with the result of this club not being able to compete with the dragons around us. FFP does put a cap on the impact owners with limitless pockets can have. PSG is under a settlement agreement with UEFA which limits what they can spend last summer and next summer significantly. CFC will get there.
Its not talked about a lot, but becoming part of a football group can become just as important. We cannot sign U18 players from Europe. City and CFC are using other European clubs to make those signings. With a state of the art "academy" from a football group, can you sell players for 50m per year from it on avg? That is what CFC have done. That has a huge impact on how much a club can spend. More entities can share costs, and you get a stronger position negotiating for sponsors. Sure, if someone invests 1.5bn in the stadium and 1.5bn in the squad over a ten year period -- we could put a real galacticos team on the pitch eventually. But that is not to say that we couldn't become the best club in football if we "just" get 1.5bn from a new owner. Like with "just" 1.5bn to pay of debt and build a new stadium, we would still be on par with Barca and Real.
Do you know what that means? It means if Allah is willing and the post is about stopping Qatari owners due to competition or integrity or whatever. So it does not make any sense whether you are pro takeover or against.
They did also contact the Premier League over Newcastle and the Saudis:
https://fairsq.org/2020/04/23/saudi-arabia-newcastle-takeover/
It would be astonishing if this got blocked and the toon one didnt.
https://fairsq.org/2020/04/23/saudi-arabia-newcastle-takeover/
It would be astonishing if this got blocked and the toon one didnt.
Their calls this time are about 'sporting integrity'
Yeah but we and PSG aren’t in the same competition now? When the sale is going through?
How can we be banned for something that actually hasn’t happened? If it’s what can happen in the future then 100 percent the likes of Girona should be looked at
Exactly. ETH will only get sacked if he is either failing in his job or bringing the club into disrepute through comments/actions etc.
So basically like every other manager on the planet.
I expect big changes with regard to the CEO and Director of Football roles. Not changes to a well functioning coaching setup.
Sporting integrity was called into question in this claim also based on the relationship between Newcastle and Sheffield:
"FairSquare finds that the Newcastle takeover bid fails the Premier League Owner and Director test on two grounds: under paragraph F1.6 in relation to the conduct of Mohamed bin Salman; and secondly under paragraph F1.2, with regard to Newcastle’s relationship with Sheffield United FC, in relation to the “power to determine or influence the management or administration of another Club.”
Human rights are overrated anyways
Newcastle and Sheffield owned by cousins also said to be "seperate entities".
https://www.sheffieldunited.news/ne...ah-no-longer-person-with-significant-control/
https://www.sheffieldunited.news/ne...ah-no-longer-person-with-significant-control/
Alright people, I don’t know about you but I’m sick and tired of random human rights groups complaining about our sale, so I’ve compiled this letter. Can you please add your names to this letter.
Dear UEFA,
I know you have recently been contacted by FairSquare, a charity aimed at ending exploitation of migrant workers and to eradicate the influence of dictatorships across the world. However, me and my friends have discussed this and feel it’s important to give the other point of view. It is important to look at both sides of the issue.
1) Despite FairSquare focusing on the rights of human beings and treating the vulnerable well, they haven’t taken into account the fact Bellingham is available in the summer and the fact United would have more money on FIFA if this goes ahead.
2) I have spoken to some of the experts on Qatar and they have assured me of the following points.
a) Most women love living in Qatar
b) Any human rights charities have been influenced by Western propaganda.
c) Servants are common and if they didn’t want to be treated appallingly they can just leave.
d) England would accept slavery in a few weeks anyway, so we can’t just judge Qatar by this metric.
e) People like, totally use iPhones anyway so there’s no point protesting Qatar.
3) Some pesky fans believe that being owned by a nation state is “wrong” and that countries with a lack of care for the most vulnerable in society should not be able to change public perception with sportswashing projects. However, I reiterate again - Jude Bellingham will probably move this summer and we are not sure that Eriksen is the long term solution.
4) I am not sure why human rights groups are even getting involved. Why don’t people like FairSquare and Amnesty International just focus on helping out those who need it, it’s only football at the end of the day.
5) As countless people have pointed out, the UK government and the USA government have done bad things before. Why are FairSquare not writing to them now about purchasing United?!
Thank you,
Wumminator.
Dear UEFA,
I know you have recently been contacted by FairSquare, a charity aimed at ending exploitation of migrant workers and to eradicate the influence of dictatorships across the world. However, me and my friends have discussed this and feel it’s important to give the other point of view. It is important to look at both sides of the issue.
1) Despite FairSquare focusing on the rights of human beings and treating the vulnerable well, they haven’t taken into account the fact Bellingham is available in the summer and the fact United would have more money on FIFA if this goes ahead.
2) I have spoken to some of the experts on Qatar and they have assured me of the following points.
a) Most women love living in Qatar
b) Any human rights charities have been influenced by Western propaganda.
c) Servants are common and if they didn’t want to be treated appallingly they can just leave.
d) England would accept slavery in a few weeks anyway, so we can’t just judge Qatar by this metric.
e) People like, totally use iPhones anyway so there’s no point protesting Qatar.
3) Some pesky fans believe that being owned by a nation state is “wrong” and that countries with a lack of care for the most vulnerable in society should not be able to change public perception with sportswashing projects. However, I reiterate again - Jude Bellingham will probably move this summer and we are not sure that Eriksen is the long term solution.
4) I am not sure why human rights groups are even getting involved. Why don’t people like FairSquare and Amnesty International just focus on helping out those who need it, it’s only football at the end of the day.
5) As countless people have pointed out, the UK government and the USA government have done bad things before. Why are FairSquare not writing to them now about purchasing United?!
Thank you,
Wumminator.
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This is fair but I'm pretty sure we're expecting some offers from Saudi. That's even worse.
Then again, the worst idea from people from the same country came from the US with the Superleague where the US owners of PL teams drove that agenda. We're talking about football ideas, obviously.
Okay great, have a good day cheers.
5) American does bad shit all the time so whatevs
I know sportswashing is supposed to be effective but I doubt even the Qataris expected it to be this quick. We’re already dismissing the actions of human rights groups as bitterness over the success we haven’t had yet under an owner who hasn’t bought us yet.
Saudi
I have as much power to block the takeover as UEFA do. Will I? That’s another matter..
I don’t think it’s the actions of the group but it’s the lack of common sense from their letter that reads as if Miguel Delaney penned it.
I have as much power to block the takeover as UEFA do. Will I? That’s another matter..
I'm looking forward to a United train station and a monorail that folk will use direct from the airport to OT. That'll be useful.
This Fairsquare letter is complete bullshit. Where were they when they allowed Saudis and UAE to own clubs. Similarly we have Red bull Clubs competing against each other in champions League, infact there are soo many transfers between these both clubs and they actually prefer selling players to each other instead of outside clubs, which can also be termed as transfer pricing.
They allowed all this to occur under their noses, but when it comes to us, it just feels like a ploy to not let us be successful again.
I wonder where these entities were when Glazers were allowed to buy utd with debt and transfered that debt to the club itself.
They allowed all this to occur under their noses, but when it comes to us, it just feels like a ploy to not let us be successful again.
I wonder where these entities were when Glazers were allowed to buy utd with debt and transfered that debt to the club itself.
The precedent with Red Bull shows it is fairly easy to get round UEFA’s rules. Leipzig and Salzburg are both subsidiaries and part of the same ownership group. UEFA were happy with them being structured and operated as individual entities so they have effectively opened the door for multiple ownership.
Unless they bring in new rules it might become more common.
Unless they bring in new rules it might become more common.
Excellent mate
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