Club Sale | It’s done!

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Witchking said:
It's been mentioned so many times that Dubai's main source is not oil.
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Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.

If the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund was to buy us, I'm sure the majority would be quite happy about that.
 
sullydnl said:
I don't even know what "spending for commercial benefit" means in this context. Everything is for commercial benefit. If you build the team into a team that wins trophies, that brings commercial benefit. From the owners' POV, that's why you want a successful team.
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No not really. If you spend more than you make from winning the trophies then it wasn't a commercial benefit. If you have to compete witha club who have, in practice, unlimited resources and a football focused management, then you will lose in the long run.

In practice the Glazers were targetting a top four finish as their business model. They spent enough to achieve that within a transfer policy heavily influenced by non-footballing factors, and they sacked managers who did not achieve that. That was the commercial operation.
 
Just get Dubai cnuts in. Surely better than a US consortium who won’t invest in the club.

And if we don’t get them, someone else will and then eclipse us in every way.
 
glazed said:
Pogba will be so gutted he left.
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He left United for a pay cut at Juve. Money wouldn’t really sway him. Though he might regret if this goes through and heavy investment is put into the team and we start competing for the highest honours again.

edit - ah Pogba recovering in Dubai joke. My bad
 
Spark said:
Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.

If the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund was to buy us, I'm sure the majority would be quite happy about that.
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That would go against how the NBIM fund works, so that can be pretty much ruled out.
 


The Chelsea process took 4 months, it’s not that fast. But seems more likely something will get done in Q2 than before it.
 
what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
 
Marcus said:
The cynical me thinks the deal has already been sewn up. I am sure negotiations have already taken place for months. Just that it is now so close that they risk breaching stock exchange rules by not making clear their intentions given the impact on the share price.
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Who is your gut feeling on the ownership
 
If Facebook take us over, probably can rule out any criticism of the club by fans, all gunna get Zucked and ruled by an Alien bugeyed overlord
 
Marcus said:
The cynical me thinks the deal has already been sewn up. I am sure negotiations have already taken place for months. Just that it is now so close that they risk breaching stock exchange rules by not making clear their intentions given the impact on the share price.
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I'm inclined to think this way, too. I mentioned yesterday that this is probably already done.
 
Zed 101 said:
what happens when every premier league club is owned by an ultra rich willing to spunk endless money on players?
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Who are all these clubs going to buy is another question? There are only so many super players you can spend mega money on
 
As an aside, modern football is the worst. I’ve seen so many posts in here like “are they richer than Mansour?” etc.

Disgusting stuff.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Just get Dubai cnuts in. Surely better than a US consortium who won’t invest in the club.

And if we don’t get them, someone else will and then eclipse us in every way.
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If a US consortium buys us, they're going to be incredibly rich. Otherwise, there's no chance they'd be able to afford to purchase the club for the figures quoted.

And if you're gonna drop several billion on an asset like that, it'd make zero sense to starve it of investment.
 
Spark said:
Also "oil money" is equally about the fact that its source is a dictatorship - which Dubai objectively is, regardless of the number of oil wells they may have.

If the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund was to buy us, I'm sure the majority would be quite happy about that.
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Anyone who buys the club is shady. No two ways about it. Rather get an owner who is greedy than an owner with a record for human rights violations. Dubai probably falls in to the second list.

They just weren't categorised correctly :o
 
Mr. Robot said:
As an aside, modern football is the worst. I’ve seen so many posts in here like “are they richer than Mansour?” etc.

Disgusting stuff.
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Our owners are richer than your owners will be the new my dad could beat up your dad
 
BarstoolProphet said:
That would go against how the NBIM fund works, so that can be pretty much ruled out.
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Yeah fair enough, just an example as to how it's less to do with "oil" per se and more around not wanting to be a vessel for sports washing a Gulf State.
 
Witchking said:
Anyone who buys the club is shady. No two ways about it. Rather get an owner who is greedy than an owner with a record for human rights violations. Dubai probably falls in to the second list.

They just weren't categorised correctly :o
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Dubai's royal family are a dictatorship with multiple human rights violations, that's literally my point.
 
lsd said:
Who are all these clubs going to buy is another question? There are only so many super players you can spend mega money on
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The Premier League itself is morphing into a kind of Super League.

Funnily enough, Sky, Neville, Carragher et al don't seem to have any sort of moral objection to this one.
 
the_cliff said:
Nowhere near.

However they have a good amount of money and would invest in the team, they would also be one of the richest owners in European football (Below Abu Dhabi, Qatar and Saudi). They do things properly here and would hire the right people to run the club. The only question mark as to them actually buying the club is as some people have mentioned, the Abu Dhabi ruling family and the Dubai ruling family are very close and are actually distantly related. The crown prince of Dubai for example recently married a princess of the Abu Dhabi ruling family, so whether they actually try to compete with Abu Dhabi in the same market, in the same league/country, in the same city remains to be seen.
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Yeah there is probably some kind of ruling
 
Telsim said:
We don't need them to be as rich. The club itself makes enough money on it's own to be fairly competitive when it's not getting robbed. The club's money together with Dubai's money will put every target within our reach.

But it's less about the money and more about the intent. Arabs love football, know football, and want the prestige that comes with winning. And will work towards that end. Likely they will seek out competent people to put in the club and hopefully end the jobs-for-the-boys policy. This is what we need a lot more than money - competitive drive and competence. Dubai is the best case scenario, in my opinion.
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Yeah think you are right about that
 
Mr. Robot said:
As an aside, modern football is the worst. I’ve seen so many posts in here like “are they richer than Mansour?” etc.

Disgusting stuff.
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What is wrong in asking? Most are not versed about these people
 
HarryP said:
If a US consortium buys us, they're going to be incredibly rich. Otherwise, there's no chance they'd be able to afford to purchase the club for the figures quoted.

And if you're gonna drop several billion on an asset like that, it'd make zero sense to starve it of investment.
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But those will also likely take dividends just like glazers
 
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