Why is it OK for some to have the fecking Emir of Qatar as an owner but Mason Greenwood shouldnt be let back?
Isnt that incredibly weird?
Isnt that incredibly weird?
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Let's face it probably the only non state ownership option who allows us to improve infrastructure,facilities and stadium without borrowing to fund it is a tech giant
Care to show your calculations, that is an utterly bizarre comparison.
I’ve been quoted too many times and most replies aren’t serious so I’m personally done with this thread. I said what I had to. Its 2023 and if you truly want to know about a topic there are multiple sides to a story which you can get to with some digging. Some of you have already made your mind so no point arguing.
There is a cultural gap as well. Getting shocked at housemaids being normal… maybe you need to target your frustrations towards capitalism and not Qatar
There is a cultural gap as well. Getting shocked at housemaids being normal… maybe you need to target your frustrations towards capitalism and not Qatar
Without getting into the morals of it all, one things Qatar will do is listen to the fans. The worry with a lot of other owners is that they come in and feel they have to make wholesale changes, we are finally starting to get the football side right and I think most fans want the manager and current personnel backed - Qatar are far less likely to change this.
That's a formality, the people in charge of these private funds work and respond for the Royal Family.
Qatari and Musk should just make a joint bid and get it done.
I could see the Qatari’s turning their attention to Spurs if the Glazers end up pricing them out of a sale. Which knowing how greedy the parasites are is a distinct possibility.
Ben Jacobs interview:
They would simply argue the individuals are friendly with royal family and hence dirty
By that logic - Man City are not state owned.
This kind of nonsense coupled with other nonsense like Rashford will be forced to go to PSG is what makes any discussion futile.
I don't even know how to reply to this one, been sat staring at the reply box for a while
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...years-in-qatar-jail-after-reporting-rape/amp/
Who is responsible for situations like this? Isnt it the Emir? The one who is going to most likely buy us?
So this is ok? But not Mason Greenwood?
Or is morale just something when it fits the narrative?
Aye because they’re the same thing.
It’s shite like this that keeps bogging this thread down.
Going nowhere with this, the club this is all about is currently governed by people that you could easily lay the same claims on to manslaughter for the covid response, its not as black and white as someone having physical evidence of a crime being committed "even if the charges were dropped"
Aye because they’re the same thing.
It’s shite like this that keeps bogging this thread down.
Then answer me this,
How is women rights in Qatar?
Can women report or get help after being raped?
Who is in charge of said laws in Qatar?
Are you ok with said laws and practices?
Why are ok with us getting owned by someone who force and make the rules above, but letting a player who hasnt been convicted for anything shouldnt be let back? Is it ok to do stuff like that over there, but not here?
Ya right. Because our club is based out of Qatar.
Are you being serious?
You are comparing Ineos and American business owners to Dictators here? The difference in scrutiny levels might be because they are not the law, judge, jury, church or controlling 100% of the power and resources, oppressing millions of people while robbing them of religous freedom, freedom of speach, freedom of sexuality etc. in countries where they don't allow free elections..... I would love more negative media attention around it. Absolutely love it. Judging by this thread it's far to little of it.
Can you really not see why people do not scrutinise INEOS/American owners to the same extent as tyrant dictators?
Google the conviction rate for sexual assault in the UK and educate one self.
Would Ratcliffe allow this at Old Trafford?
Keegan's article or was it Jacobs suggests that they are at least willing to listen to fans views on how the ground and facilities could be improved
City are owned by Abu Dabhi group. - A sovereign fund.
So you all have made up that its the QIA that are bidding for the club? I hope you all have done this much research on all the bidders.
Please don’t try and pretend this isn’t anything to do with the Qatari rulers. You can justify it how youwant, but don’t go down that pathetic route.
Nobody here has said they are against Qatar, the country, or it's people. They are against their tyrant dictator buying this club. Totally different things.
Conviction rates are low in most countries because its difficult to prove that it was non-consentual unless there were reliable witnesses present that is somewhat different than a womans testimony being worth less than a man's in law.
Yes, I am being serious.
So you have an issue with how the country is run and politics of it all, you know exactly how each person in middle east feels? Its like you are saying there is nothing politically wrong with America or the UK? Is that how you feel? It is your opinion that UK and America have the best politics and laws, other people will not share the same thinking.
Well people might as well start protesting now
Not sure about Ratcliffe but the Glazers certainly didn't mind seeing us get shagged at home to Liverpool.
I don’t know the ins and outs of the laws in a country the other side of the world. I do know the conviction rate for rape in the UK is absolutely shocking. As for Greenwood the club are doing their own investigation and will decide themselves what to do with him. I assume you’ll be walking away from the club if the Qatari’s do indeed takeover seeing as you’re so strongly against it? You’re entitled to your opinion but don’t be jumping on anyone who doesn’t share the same one as you.
This really isn't the "gotcha" you think it is my friend.
I never understood the hype around Leonardo. He was appointed technical director despite playing just 4 years with Milan. He then moved to manager despite not even having the qualifications to cover the role and after tanking it big time and news leaked out of having problems with Berlusconi, he fount himself managing another top club aka Inter. It the equivalent of Ole becoming City manager after tanking with us. He then did meah at Inter only to resign and become a director at PSG. But that's not all. After getting banned for 13 months which I think lead to his sacking he fount himself back to Milan as sporting director. But that is not all. He then leaves Milan again on mutual consent only to return to PSG again. That's astounding when you consider that he was a good player, a mediocre manager and an even worse Director. Now either this guy is the most fortunate man on earth or else he happens to have nude pictures of most top football people of the time.
Has there been any new updates or is everyone here still fighting and that's why there's been so many pages today?
What now? Are we talking about United here or do you mean some other club?
Right, we want to do this do we?
I agree Qatar has outdated laws, didn't this country have that not too long ago too?
You can ask these questions, but you also have to answer mine.
What % of women who report rape get justice in America or UK?
Struggle to see what Musk brings other than an absolute circus.
The Qatari royals have been know to commit multiple crimes including rapes, tortures and murders. And I don't think we'd need to discuss how women are treated there.
What bizarre here is some of our fans can live just fine with those people owning United but can't live with MG returning. Some may argue that the players presents the club more than the owners. That's simply not true the players, coaches etc. and the owners all are a part of the club and they're all associated with the club and our image.
For me it's really simple. If you're ok with the Qatari royals owning us then you should not complain about or are against MG playing for us again. At least MG didn't torture and kill anyone.
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