TwoSheds
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Well it's a good start actually showing their faces. Best manure is the sole of the farmer's boot as they say.
Who says that?Best manure is the sole of the farmer's boot as they say.
New Manchester United investor Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Ineos head of sport Sir Dave Brailsford have told staff of their intention to drive the club back to the top of the English game.
Ratcliffe, Brailsford and Jean Claude-Blanc have been spending time at Old Trafford and the Carrington training complex this week prior to their proposed 25% purchase of the club being ratified by the Premier League.
United boss Erik ten Hag said on Thursday he spent ‘hours’ with the Ineos delegation, discussing future plans.
BBC Sport also understands Brailsford led a number of group chats in which he referred to United’s ‘performance challenge’, which was his way of highlighting the chronic underperformance in recent years.
It is thought likely Brailsford will bring in a new technical director once he is legally allowed to make changes.
That will put a question mark over the future of current football director John Murtough.
If EtH said that we need time to reshape the team and mentality to play like his Ajax, I think we would accept that this is a transition period to get there. But he abandoned that to become the best transition team in the world which basically sacrifices control for goalscoring opportunities, which are paltry. I am not sure whether he should be given more time for this type of football which he himself is experimenting with. What exactly is the team supposed to look like? If he can show a proper pathway to that objective and INEOS is convinced then so be it. Otherwise, he should go.
The Glazers won’t be here for years to come
Who says that?
Nobody says that
I really hope not mate.
I doubt it, especially when you look at the details of the deal. Their intentions are quite clear. They want out. With Ratcliffe taking over or someone else.
I didn’t like the comment as it was clear agenda posting in my opinion.
Fair enough!
I really hope they just want higher price and eventually fecks off, this club needs owners with high sporting ambiitiions.And not only someone sucking the club dry.
Agreed, he seems lost. I think he also is simply not up to the job. He is too arrogant, refused to take advice from likes of Rangnick, wanted control over transfers and he has bought lots of his ex players or players that played well against Ajax. Its an unbelievably limited approach to recruitment and the club should never have sanctioned this, but equally he should have had the sense to realise how dumb an approach that was. Now most of these transfers have failed he is floundering. There is no tactical genius at work here, I think that was pretty obvious when he insisted playing Weghorst, the most technically limited player ever to play for us.He can't see the forest for the trees at the moment.
I think they’ll be gone mate. This is the first stage and should be celebrated.
We've disagreed previously that they'll be gone. But hearing the developments and potential hirings, I'm now at a stage where I don't even care if the glazers stay on indefinitely. The essential things are moving ahead in very positive way!I think they’ll be gone mate. This is the first stage and should be celebrated.
Got the Champagne ready for the day we are rid of Glazer parasites mate![]()
We've disagreed previously that they'll be gone. But hearing the developments and potential hirings, I'm now at a stage where I don't even care if the glazers stay on indefinitely. The essential things are moving ahead in very positive way!
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Agreed, he seems lost. I think he also is simply not up to the job. He is too arrogant, refused to take advice from likes of Rangnick, wanted control over transfers and he has bought lots of his ex players or players that played well against Ajax. Its an unbelievably limited approach to recruitment and the club should never have sanctioned this, but equally he should have had the sense to realise how dumb an approach that was. Now most of these transfers have failed he is floundering. There is no tactical genius at work here, I think that was pretty obvious when he insisted playing Weghorst, the most technically limited player ever to play for us.
Old American people.
Tossers.
I presume Sir Jim doesn't have as much free time as you thinkThe litmus test for me will be when the deal is fully ratified, just how hands on will Sir Jim actually be?
Forget the manifesto, forget Brailsford, Mitchell land Jean Claude Blanc, I want to see Sir Jim at every home game, he’s a fan so now he part owns the club, he should watch as many games as he can.
For nearly 20 years the club has been rudderless at the top, Sir Jim is a winner no doubt about that, he’s now out manoeuvred the Qataris twice with Mercedes and United. The club needs and deserves strong leadership, Sir Jim’s personal wealth is rumoured to be three times Abrahamovic wealth at his peak, we don’t need too much of his money to be great again but the players, fans and coach need that figure head to look to and to provide strong leadership.
I can’t imagine a United side getting beat 3 or 4 nil at home after the stadium has been modernised and Sir Jim sitting up in his throne tolerating too much of that, so yep things are going to change and change quickly?
I want to see Sir Jim at every home game
Don't think that will happen. I think he's only allowed in the country so many days a year cos of tax reasons.I'd like to see this as much as possible.
This is a key reason the club has been allowed to stagnate. The Glazers have never really had to share in the collective shame of an embarrassing defeat, which is a powerful motivator for improvement.
Isn’t he a tax exile can only spend so long in the countryThe litmus test for me will be when the deal is fully ratified, just how hands on will Sir Jim actually be?
Forget the manifesto, forget Brailsford, Mitchell land Jean Claude Blanc, I want to see Sir Jim at every home game, he’s a fan so now he part owns the club, he should watch as many games as he can.
For nearly 20 years the club has been rudderless at the top, Sir Jim is a winner no doubt about that, he’s now out manoeuvred the Qataris twice with Mercedes and United. The club needs and deserves strong leadership, Sir Jim’s personal wealth is rumoured to be three times Abrahamovic wealth at his peak, we don’t need too much of his money to be great again but the players, fans and coach need that figure head to look to and to provide strong leadership.
I can’t imagine a United side getting beat 3 or 4 nil at home after the stadium has been modernised and Sir Jim sitting up in his throne tolerating too much of that, so yep things are going to change and change quickly?
Yes he has a limited number of daysIsn’t he a tax exile can only spend so long in the country
Don't think that will happen. I think he's only allowed in the country so many days a year cos of tax reasons.
He’s already probably tied with Glazers for Carrington visits in person.Yes he has a limited number of days
The Glazers probably think Carrington is the name of a character from an old TV series.He’s already probably tied with Glazers for Carrington visits in person.
He’s a tax exile, so there is only a finite number of days Jimmy Brexit can stay in the UK?I presume Sir Jim doesn't have as much free time as you think
Exactly as Americans, the beautiful game never truly resonated with them, we were simply an international ATM, a cash machine for them nothing more !I'd like to see this as much as possible.
This is a key reason the club has been allowed to stagnate. The Glazers have never really had to share in the collective shame of an embarrassing defeat, which is a powerful motivator for improvement.
Sorry I know this will have been covered but it’s been a lot of news every day and a lot to digest…
Once the deal is complete, does it mean if United want to sign (as a pure example) Michael Olise this summer, Ratcliffe and the Ineos execs can complete that signing 100% without any input or sign off whatsoever from Joel Glazer?
So basically they could sign a player without Joel Glazer even knowing about it until it’s done? (I know in reality he’ll still be kept abreast to ensure good working relations)
Maximum number of home games 30 per season, he has a 3 night stay that’s 90 days no excuses!Isn’t he a tax exile can only spend so long in the country
We aren’t his only business though.183 days innit, plenty of time to remain tax exempt.
Maximum number of home games 30 per season, he has a 3 night stay that’s 90 days no excuses!
He’s a die hard Red remember?
I’m expecting him to turn up at most home games, then like most united fans he has my undivided attention as I can see him actually rebuilding the club, if he visits for the odd home game here and there, for me and many fans who still don’t completely trust this deal that’s simply not enough.Which point are you snarky trying to make here?
He doesn’t need to work 7 days a week 24 hours I’m sure he can fit in a few hours to watch his beloved United on Saturday at 3pm or Sunday at 4.30pm, it’s not as if he can’t afford the private flight from Monaco to Manchester once a week now is it and he gets the summer off to go on a big yacht and unwind.We aren’t his only business though.
I’m expecting him to turn up at most home games, then like most united fans he has my undivided attention as I can see him actually rebuilding the club, if he visits for the odd home game here and there, for me and many fans who still don’t completely trust this deal that’s simply not enough.
He’s said he’s not in for the money but the glory, I say prove it by making himself be the figure head of the club, by being present at every home game and making his wrath felt instantly by if the team performs poorly on the pitch!