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Club Sale | It’s done!
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That will be the half time score !
Brexit Jim kicking off his tenure at the club with his very own David Moyes appointment would be a pretty fecking hilarious conclusion to this whole process
Well Euro Cafe told us ETH was the next big thing and now we’re stuck in the UK for the rest of the season. The irony.
To be fair, by the time this strategic review ends, surely I will either be a moderator or six feet under.
So they limited Fergie’s spend then gave Woodward a war chest?
Maybe just maybe Gill and Fergie preferred to run a tight ship.
Yeh, SAF was happy selling his best player and buying a Wigan winger. Never seen an ambitious coach interested in weaking his team.
Of course we will probably never know for sure because Ferguson fell out with previous owners and had to make a deal/concessions with Glazers to stay on. He also has a cushdy ambassador role under the glazers, no need for him to rock the boat.
But you can believe that the glazers saddling the club with 70milloon of annual interest payments had no impact on Fergusons ability to fund the signings he may of wanted. I’m sure this had no affect on uniteds ambitions.
Which ownership got us Nani, Anderson, Berbatov and Tevez?
Also we had scouted Valencia for well over a year before we brought him. There was interest in Ribery like we have been interested in Benzema, Vidal, Sneijder etc. Just because they didn’t arrive isn’t always down to not being able to pay the fee. We already know Fergie is as against this growing influence of agents in Football and it cost us Eden Hazard. It had nothing to do with the Glazers.
It’s very convenient but stick to facts mate.
Considering the payment Roman did to that agent I dont think it mattered much. Ferguson had a great relationship with several agents btw. Including Mendes.
Point being it wasn’t a we don’t have any money problem. Which is what I was trying to get at. However you want to word corruption is fine but at the time the line was his agent wants too much money.
Yes Fergie had a good relationship with a limited few but it also cost us deals which is what Woodwards naivety showed us later down the line.
What happens if Ineos pulls out, just how deep in the gutter are united and glazers financially?
Valencia was never supposed to be a Ronaldo replacement. He was an addition to the squad and we had scouted him for a long time. The big name player we were after that summer was Benzema.
"We tried to spend [the Cristiano Ronaldo money] on Karim Benzema as, at 21, I felt that there would be an improvement there. He is tough, good physique, a good goal scoring record, so it was worth going a wee bit extra for him because of his age. But when it went to £42m, it was beyond his value. We went to £35m and I think that was fair."
Pulling out is never a wise decision.
Not really true. Sir Alex gave into the Glazers when our finances were tight, we needed the Ronaldo money to make balance sheet look better when they were refinancing some of their high cost debt. He did a deal with the devil, sadly.
The Glazers will see their greed and ignorance thrown back at them. No buyers, share price falls a lot. Fan revolt. Really ugly, possibly would force a sale at some point...
.....it won't.
Unfortunately.
The support has either option:
A) Just keep paying up and hope the club uses your money wisely
or
B) Stop supporting the club financially.
All there is. Unless you want a prison sentence, fine, lifetime ban or a massive bill for a facile aeroplane over the stadium.
This is correct.
Takeover
Yeah the money wasn't really there until the PIKs went and the loan was renegotiated. We were spending in excess of £50m a year on interest one point with the PIKs also looming.
I also think, Gill didn't really have the same sort of power or influence with the Glazers to make funds available that Woodward and Arnold have.
Maybe, but he certainly isn’t showing that this season.
This the same heart that bid billions for Chelsea?
Not sure why this is relevant. United didn't look like they'd be up for sale, so he moved for a PL opportunity. The guy isn't exactly young.
He's 70, clearly wanted to take over a big football club for a long time now, and it seemed like United wasn't going to be up for sale for decades to come...I still don't see the point of this Chelsea argument, really isn't the gotcha that you may think it is.
I support United but if I was a 70 year old billionaire with endless money to play around with, I would have also probably put a bid in for Chelsea, knowing that the club I really want is probably impossible in my lifetime. In hindsight it wasn't impossible, of course, but no one expected that the Glazers would want out this soon.
Don’t bite lads, it’s what he wanted.
I dont care about where his heart is. I care about whether he's competent at running a football club.
As yet he's as unproven on that as the Glazers.
As yet he's as unproven on that as the Glazers.
Why did you bring up the Chelsea bid then
More a point on how sentimentalism doesnt mean a good football club owner.
Where are Nice in league un?
Agreed on that one, but their last 12 months at Nice is encouraging. Also, if they want to win and are willing to invest a lot...then they can only be significantly better, than the Glazers.
25/100 * 100 = 25. He will be buying 25 shares, not percent.
We've won 4 cups and finished second twice under the post-SAF glazer stewardship.
Fergie was an employee. He had to adhere to company policy.
man it would be depressing to know that because the glazers didnt want to spend an extra 7 mill we didnt get benzema. Wouldve been a huge addition for us.
Next week
Also unless he is already subject to PL OADT he won’t be doing anything ‘immediately’.
Potter
Would the PL OADT stop a new CEO, new DoF being hired, prior to Ratcliffe's approval as a director?
The new structure needs to be put in place asap. January is coming up and we may need a new manager.
We are Manchester United, not Nice. Nice were not really expected to be the 2nd best side in League un prior to Ratcliffe's arrival.
Ferguson was never against buying big, in his last season RVP was bought, there are plenty of examples of him splashing the cash on proven quality, especially to replace existing quality.
I did stick to facts on who replaced Ronaldo. You talked about transfers that didn’t materialise. Stop accusing me of doing exactly what you did!
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Why would Ferguson care about an extra few million for Benzema , not buy any striker at all and then spend the same on a much RVP? Doesn’t make sense unless he was towing the glazers cheap ass line.
I don’t think he’s allowed to have any influence on the club until he’s approved by the PL.
Imagine we get thumped by Liverpool, can't beat West Ham away and lose to Villa on Boxing Day.
If there is no one to make a decision on the manager by then, things could get really bad.
We're going to end up sacking Ten Hag and appointing an interim.
Reasonable chance that interim is Ole.
Disagree.
INEOS may not have a fantastic record in running a football club, but we know The Glazers record is just about the worst in world football.
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