I love how people in here speak definitively as if they are in the know and are confident enough to spout it.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Oh they don't want sporting control but not how people think. They want a fall guy for everything that goes sht. But there is a difference between letting someone manage and letting someone fully control. You don't just let the major arm of your business to be fully out of your control. Thats nuts. Like I said Apple selling its control of sales or Amazon selling its control of its warehouses. They still have sporting control. They are just letting SJR take he reins for a bit
That does not make 25%
12.5% of Class B is 14.2m(113m)
12.5% of Class A is 6.6m (53m)
Total 20.8m from 166m total shares is a surprise 12.5% , something does not add up or is being reported incorrectly?
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The Glazers are nothing if not greedy. Probably trying to find a way to screw over Class A shareholders and make even more money in the future.
I think that's exactly the sort of thing that will start to change under the new ownership though.
Looking at Saudi transfers so far, I don't think we'd get £45 million for Varane, but could easily get £25 million as that is roughly what they paid for Aymeric Laporte.
Obviously they just mean his 25% comes from a 50/50 combo of Class A + B
exact number of shares is a different thing
But this is just speculation anyway and likely to be wrong as you would expect the share price to be much higher if it was moving towards this
The fact he is buying the shares with virtually no voting rights is probably an indication that a full or majority sale is in the pipeline.
SJR doesn’t need to but those shares other than to stop a future lawsuit regarding a full/majority sale and the Glazers don’t get any money from it. It’s much more likely that it’s removing an obstacle than the Glazers fleecing him.
I think we can because Saudi overpay for players and todibo is available for a smaller fee who happens to play for a club owned by Ratcliffe. I'm also basing. My premise on new decision makers
There is nothing about this deal that points the way towards improved performances on the pitch. But the good news, at least for those more interested in the utdubess side of things, is that the Glazers will pocket a very nice payoff.
No doubt opposition clubs will cry foul play.
I wonder if all of you treating "the Glazers" as a monolithic block have ever been exposed to a family business, let alone one that so blatantly doesn't perform well at its core business.
For all we know, there could be a bunch of them well chuffed to have someone other than Joel pulling the strings. Much like us, anyone having the foggiest idea what he is doing.
For all we know, there could be a bunch of them well chuffed to have someone other than Joel pulling the strings. Much like us, anyone having the foggiest idea what he is doing.
Mods should autocorrect Glazers to Glaziers for a laugh.
I work for a family owned company. The mother and father founded it some 45 years ago and still occupy Director roles and very much involved (not some "directors" who take the title but just sit out) and the 2 sons run the other most senior positions. The other "managers" just take a title and don't actually manage per se, they don't really get a say in anything that happens in the company and just have to follow the family.
Yeah, but to be honest it should not really be allowed without proper scrutiny, as with any related club transactions.
One of the issues some had with Qatar was the risk that they might get up to the same shenanigans that City and apparently now Chelsea had been up to. Now that may be unfounded on the Qatar part, but it was a concern. So if the first transfer we do under Sir Jim has a whiff about it, for sure people will be all over it. The fact is we really don't need to be getting involved in that sort of thing. Simply paying a fair price would be such an improvement for us over recent years that it would still be beneficial (and probably look dodgy in comparison anyway).
Liverpool sold Coutinho to Barca for £140m and then bought Allison and van Dijk for £60m and £75m then won the CL and the PL.*
I know they're in different positions but it's how well run football clubs do business.
*Prices subject to my dodgy memory
Fascinating to see how these plays out with the Glaziers, Radcliffe, and Laurent Blanc.
And don't forget award winning actor Patrick Stewart
Who let that dickhead represent the fans on Bloomberg, another one who isn't even a United fan.
I hope he runs us just like he was still Sejanus in I Claudius. Show up to matches dressed in Roman regalia, too, and wearing a wig. Waving about his obviously wooden sword and avenging himself on John Rhys Davies.
Shouting 'warp speed' at The 1958 when they demand a full sale only to The Dothraki (they're confused in The 1958).
I misspelled a word. I would like to formally apologize to the whole Redcafe community. The Glazers. Sir Jim. Everyone at the club. I am seeking therapy for my actions and hope that I can be a better person in the futire....oh sht
Glaziers GlaZiErS
Have a day off. What a load of nonsense.
It's not Picard, but the club's missing a trick if they don't get the new guy to utter the words "beam me up, Scotty". The camera pans to McTominay, who replies "no problem!". Some cheap CGI and 10 seconds later, Patrick (our one, not Picard) magically appears in Arnold's old office and chair with a smug smirk on his face proudly stating "with the first link, the chain is forged, things are only impossible until they are not".
Taking a chance letting Scott do the beaming. With his pass accuracy Patty will end up at Maine Road.
I wonder is Jesse Lindegard coming back?
How so?
Ah got you! Burn him! Burn him! Burn him! Embarrassing.
As long as someone with even a modicum of common sense is coming in, it is a positive. Too long has our fan base been pacified with these symbolic titles, Murtough DoF, 'transfer committee', all this talk about how things are changing without anything actually changing at all (literally ETH's transfer market activity couldn't be more similar to LVG's and that is creeping up on a decade ago).
If we get a CEO with a track record and a DOF with a track record it is a step in the right direction. The only reason people are annoyed at this is the carrot of state ownership as dangled, forget it, it's gone.
I do think this just prolongs the pain/shitshow. It’s another mega transfer to try to heal the fact that they’ve let the club fall way too far behind on all sporting levels. SJR clearly has his work cut out. Can he do what no manager could do, succeed with the glazers in the background dithering and cutting corners? He’s an old man. It’s another glazer choice so it’s 99% likely going to be another expensive mistake that just kicks the can down the road and makes them richer and us worse off. The only silver linings are : SJR is much richer than the glazers and he can afford to quickly fix any mistakes he may make, as in he can afford to write off poor transfers or at least take a hit at the earliest chance. He’ll be much more used to finding best in class applicants with relevant experience or attributes for appointments across differing industries. Being self made he should be a lot more ruthless than the silver spoon glaziers (lol) in theory. He has sporting experience (but not with great results?) Please god just don’t let it be more of the same crumbling false hope Disneyland shite. Looking forward to getting Kane on a free transfer in 5 years! 
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Announcment imminent, so that's Christmas then? This has dragged on and on and on with each week being the week of the announcment. SKY keep saying it's 'in a few days' The bloke that does the United stuff and claims to know what's going on, knows as much as we do.i.e. Jackshit. I hope it's this week, but I doubt it.
Only if Anders Lingard comes too.
Dream team!
Remember that thread where a poster was saying he wanted Jamie Redknapp to manage us but he meant Harry? I wonder would Harry and Jamie be our DOF- Manager? Two real football people. The synergy would be breathtaking
exactly. i think it’s clear malcolm was clearly the ruthless business glayjer and all the other glayjers don’t really know what they’re doing.
What an insightful and constructive post.
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