What does that have to do with anything? His bot investing heavily at Nice so why would that be much different here
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What does that have to do with anything? His bot investing heavily at Nice so why would that be much different here
Looking at their squad I'd say he's spent some money though
So like the glazer’s he makes bad delegation choices? I think people need to accept his sporting CV speaks for itself.
Not a lot compared to other "sugar daddies". And on shit mostly
Not sure I like anybody who thought signing Aaron Ramsey was a good idea.
New owner doesn’t need to necessarily spend hundreds of millions on first team buys like Boehly is doing at Chelsea. They could concentrate on spending considerable money on a better scouting network and improving our academy, so we can have more chances of people like Garnacho and Rashford coming through, where the spend is either zero or extremely low in Garnacho’s case.
I don’t think we need sugar daddy necessarily. We need someone who does put money in every once in a while definitely but more importantly lets us spend the money we make anyway. Hypothetically if we’re missing one crucial player to complete the jigsaw which is the difference between finishing 1st and 2nd but costs £100m, then they would ideally step up and stump up the cash for it, as a once every two years lifeline we can use.
I don’t think we need sugar daddy necessarily. We need someone who does put money in every once in a while definitely but more importantly lets us spend the money we make anyway. Hypothetically if we’re missing one crucial player to complete the jigsaw which is the difference between finishing 1st and 2nd but costs £100m, then they would ideally step up and stump up the cash for it, as a once every two years lifeline we can use.
So he delegates as shiite as the Glazers then
Good points, but what is so annoying is that as long as any of the siblings keeps their shares -- they have full control of the clubs. Their Series B shares have 10 votes per share while the others have 1. And some decisions require the support of any B share to pass. If any sibling sell their share to someone who isn't a straight line relative from Malcom, the B shares are automatically transformed to A shares (low voting shares).
All we’ve got so far is a statement of interest. Nobody in their right mind is going to enter a blind auction without the chance of conducting some due diligence. The process, so far, has not been made transparent. With the Chelsea sale the contenders were at least given a prospectus of the business and the books.
If Sir Jim is going to do what he is doing to Nice, then we are going to see even darker days than the Glazers days.
Jesus fecking Christ
Nothing major, but Off the pitch are quoting to a M&A advisor well versed in the football world:
Beyond playing the same sport, there is next to no comparison between OGC Nice and Manchester United.
Hence why the asking price for the former was €100 million and the latter gets paid just shy of double that just from the Premier League every season simply for playing in it.
Doubt Sir Jim gets us - but if he does his whole reputation will ride on sorting out the mess here. He can’t afford to screw up here. He’s either deadly serious, and prepared to spend megabucks, or it’s a PR job.
I don’t think this point is made clear enough. United will be the largest sports institution in the world that will ever be up for sale
Also makes me wonder why some people rule out the middle east interest
They very well may not get far into the process, but if they have a political agenda and want to use a club for sports washing.. you aren’t going to get a bigger opportunity than United. The club makes heroes
Because it'll bring just as big exposure to any negatives that the owners do. It's a massive risk.
I don’t really know too much about this shit but I’ve just been reading a bit about Ineos and their expansion into the Chinese market, seems their buying out of 50% of Secco a subsidiary of Sinopec is quite significant.
Ineos seems to be getting bigger.
Ineos seems to be getting bigger.
Give me him over yankee vultures though
Hope that's true about sovereign fund being the favourite,however they haven't come to the table
Do United need a “sugar daddy”? If the debt is paid off and whoever takes over manages to get it running well, United will have loads to spend regardless.
Yeah with how much we need I do think so
You'd say Lfc are one of the best run non "sugar daddy" teams, and yet they still need a sugar daddy.
Oh absolutely. But it's not my dream scenario
Me neither I want middle east owners
I think they get top dollar in the end. £6b-£7b, maybe more. It’s going to be a huge bid.
Same. I'm hoping for some sweet oil money. Or Dubai. Please, let it happen. Not more American parasites.
We are not that big in revenues anymore. We fell behind Liverpool and "city".
City is a lie and we still have higher revenue than Liverpool. That’s despite both clubs basically maxing out their income with how far they got in tournaments.
Then we have so many deals up for renewal soon so we’ll see a rise from that
Yep. I don't genuinely get people worrying. Our new owners will be filthy rich. It's as if people don't realise the scale of this opportunity of owning us.
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We need a new stadium, training ground and quality players. Good luck financing that all with our current revenues alone.
We don’t need a new stadium, we probably don’t need a new training ground (I’ve never been so I’ve no idea, just as I’m betting you don’t) so that makes everything a lot easier
We do (at least a huge refurbishment) and we do. Why do you think every report highlights these two areas as points of concern for potential owners?
We need players to start winning trophies. Facilities after that before we talk about a new stadium.
Well every report around points out that our training facilities are not up to standard anymore. And the stadium is in a tragic state.
So what exactly is wrong with Carrington that it needs tearing down and rebuilding?
What exactly means Old Trafford needs demolishing?
The stadium is far from tragic. I can only assume you’ve not been to many others if you think it is.
What exactly needs demolishing at Carrington? Why?
Stadium expansion: £800M
Increase in attendance: 40%
Increase in revenue: £41M
Loan costs over 25 years: £32M+ interests.
A new stadium would pay for itself.
Ronaldo has pretty much said Carrington is exactly the same as when he left it in 2009. 13+ years without any sort of improvement or modernisation for a club like United is criminal. Read up about what he said about the swimming pool as a prime example.
As for OT, if you've been there, you'll know it needs a massive refurbishing job at the very least!
Any money for a stadium revamp will be financed in some way through borrowing or a commercial partnership - a new owner isn’t going to come in and pay for it in cash.
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