Club Sale | It’s done!
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He won't be missed.
I agree with you, his father was not fond of the idea and before that regarding QTA, he stated that he doesn't see Football and sport in general as good investments at this point in time. People keep ignoring that the man in charge is an actual investor.
All I hope for now is that those leeches are preparing to leave and won't take any more fecking dividends on their way out of the door. There should be riots if they do.
The Qatari’s are just saving face because they’ve lost, we were always going to find out who had won this way. It’s a done deal and just needs board approval next week.
The Qatari’s have had more than enough time and opportunities to submit a much better bid.
Thats what I mentioned a few months back.
There is talk that INEOS which many claim here to think its a massive company based on its revenues -- 65Billion but its tiny compared to the Big Oil entities. They will get bought up at some point in the near future.
What I am thinking is that INEOS Sports will get a spunoff from the chemical/oil parts of the business in the medium term. It makes no sense in the long run. Short run it's good for brand awareness and building for the INEOS franchise network. I see Ratcliffe as the Richard Branson of the chemical world. The INEOS organisation is quite loosely connected like Branson's web.
Ratcliffe chemwhateverfeck offers the Glazers shares of that newly spinoff INEOS Sports division in exchange for the United shares at a date in the near future. A multi-sport organisation.
There was a rumour that if Ratcliffe buys the club, Paul Mitchell will be considered for DoF role. Will be interesting to see what changes will be made on the recruitment side.
JR
How would that look like? So they will allowed to spend United's money without approval from the Glazers even though he only has 25% stake? Does not make sense especially since Glazers still are majority owners.
Gary Neville has has his say:-
Ratcliffe is a business man he’s not stupid, he did what he did in order to get the Glazers to budge and of course if his intentions are taking over he will have it iron clad in the contract, that’s like business 101. I’m not sure why you all think the contract will just mention 25% of shares and after that they’re just gonna wing it.
So a state-funded/sovereign fund couldn't afford to buy United? How does that make sense?
All 3 of those players have been sold just 1 year later. Since that window, they've appointed a new sporting director in Florent Ghisolfi and brought in a new manager in Farioli who was the name said sporting director wanted.
They are definitely learning from their mistakes without blindly throwing money at every issue.
What is a much better bid though? By all accounts, the Sheik is already bidding way more than what the club is worth. This whole situation stinks of the glazers never really wanting to sell but instead wanted investors and that’s what they’ve got. Nothing is going to change on or off the pitch with Ratboy on the board but it’s cute that so many have convinced themselves otherwise.
Who in their right minds would want to be associated with Qatar? Absolutely delighted they are out. Laughing my ass off at the losers who are crying over Jassim pulling out. This news has made my day. See below for some context. Have a good day.
https://x.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1713496387688562973?s=20
https://x.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1713496387688562973?s=20
Does this mean Ratcliffe will be buying out the shares of minority share holders? If an average person owns shares in United, will their shares be bought out at $46 per share automatically?
Well I for one am glad that the club won't be an asset of Qatar, or anyone linked to Qatar, any time soon.
Good points made. Ratcliffe buying 25% is utterly pointless.
Yep.
Edit: imagine we sold to Qatar/Jassim last year. It doesn't bear thinking about.
.Just remember that when we go through another decade of mediocrity.
Cry more you baby. You big baby.
And if there is any club inb the Prem that doesn't need the oil money to be succesful it would be Manchester United. Lets be honest, a debt free Man Utd ran by a board that actually invests more than a packet of crisps value into the facilities/stadium should make more than enough money to be competitive long term.
Newcastle/Man City could only dream of having those sorts of finances pre-takeovers, and its taken Man City 15 years to just about catch up with a Man Utd thats been functioning in many ways with one hand tied behind its back. I'm sure Newcastle will get there eventually as well, and money is now becoming so big in the prem that even super rich owners aren't having quite the same impact they once had and it takes actual football brains not just a thick end of a billion to win (Chelsea are a perfect example of that recently) things. Those days are probably gone for now.
A sugar daddy is nice I'm sure for the short term impact, but owners who invest back and not take billion in dividends and not be totally incompetent should be enough to at least be legitimately able to challenge again down the line.
I don't know how he has the audacity to tweet that shit out if he considers himself a respectable journalist. Tweeting Qatari PR that shittalks their rival bidder whilst you've never heard any Ineos briefs even mention Qatar or Jassim.
Always had a feeling that this Kaveh guy is a monumental bellend and it feels good to see your gut feelings being proven right. He's probably on their payroll, too.
Most of this sounds pretty reasonable from a bloke who was transparently hoping to get his beak wet in the Qatar money.
What the feck is that Disneyland shit, though
Interesting to see how the publicly traded shares will behave after this news. Will the major funds be happy to take $46 for now? Does this ensure they will be finally bought out when Ineos finally take majority ownership or they stop at 69% of the B shares and the class A shareholders get screwed?
feck me. Talk about client journalism
Romano has done the same. A lot of journalists giving out long quotes from "insiders" giving a completely one sided POV.
The market decides...
Coming from the people who brought you overpaying for everything.
Good to see where your priorities lie, you'd support a terrorism-enabling state just so you can watch a football team win a game of football. Got it.
Any dilution of Glazer ownership is positive. At least this story might finally conclude now.
gotta be honest, I never expected him to not win the race
all the talk about selling a minority stake from Jim I assumed was bluster to get Qatar to stump up
the Glazers really are fecking morons turning down 2x market value with all the issues at the club..
I just hope Jim takes full control sooner rather than later
that said.. I wouldn't be surprised to see another twist in the tale
all the talk about selling a minority stake from Jim I assumed was bluster to get Qatar to stump up
the Glazers really are fecking morons turning down 2x market value with all the issues at the club..
I just hope Jim takes full control sooner rather than later
that said.. I wouldn't be surprised to see another twist in the tale
I will. Better to be proud of supporting a league 2 club than embarrassed over supporting the European champions.
A bit immature that.
If some of the clueless Ratcliffe defenders would just read this from Neville, maybe they can start seeing how fecked we are.
Fair play. I’ve fell into the hole I’ve blasted others for. Criticising Qatar does not equate to pro-Jim. I get lost in this thread too.Sorry why do you think I like Jim? Where have I said that, or am I just reading your tone totally wrong. Where am I lauding anything? I'm just making a post with my viewpoint. Just seem to be biting at me, when I swear you agreed with my point a few hours ago
I don’t think you can slate the Qatar bid for not meeting the Glazers ‘demands’ though as Ratcliffe is buying 25% of their 69% to become the face of a catastrophe. none many would do that.
I agree with everything you wrote and I've lost count how many times I've mentioned here that Manchester United should be one of the clubs regularly dunking on these dirty oil clubs, instead of joining them.
It's crazy to think that we could've been competing with the likes of City, Liverpool, Madrid, Bayern, etc. this last decade even under the Glazers if they just went and appointed competent people and put them in charge of footballing decisions. If Ineos do that and also invest into the club on top of that, we will once again inevitably become one of Europe's biggest powerhouses.
Because the Glazers are greedy and overvalued the club.
Change your expectation for who they are as a club. They're a mid table side, not a CL side. Here's a read on them. Hasn't all been perfect, but it's a decent process all the same.
https://playedonpaper.substack.com/p/ogc-nices-ratcliffe-renaissance-how
INEOS were bidding more than it’s worth and more per share than Qatar. They’ve been outbid and out manoeuvred by INEOS, people just need to stop clinging to this idea Qatar are going to blow everyone out of the water. SJ bottled it and is now trying to save face,
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