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At least it’s something of a update.
Beckham and the Qataris are used to getting what they want. If they increase their offer, we'll probably be still here next October wondering when it'll be sold.
Wouldn’t read to much into it. I still have a feeling INEOS are being used to get a bigger bid from Qatar. Besides, Sir Jim buying 25% does not fix the core problem of much needed investment. If a nearly 12 month strategic review to seek alternative investment into the club, ends up with the result of the Glazer’s just lining their pockets - there will be hell to pay!Definitely looking like Becks is the PR guy for Qatar bid but Ratcliffe looks in the box seat. Always feared Bloomberg talking up him buying the club and now it's happened
Why wouldn't they?Convinced Jassim won't bother upping the bid as reckon he is certain they aren’t gonna sell to him
After what theyve paid him, they probably want a little more value for money than smiling and saying nothing.Definitely looking like Becks is the PR guy for Qatar bid but Ratcliffe looks in the box seat. Always feared Bloomberg talking up him buying the club and now it's happened
Think you gotta embrace the "take what you can get" mentality. The Glazers own the club and very clearly don't want to sell unless it's for an absurd amount. That's not happening. If we get minority investment from Sir James Arthur Ratcliffe FIChemE where he still has the end goal of an eventual takeover, then it's not too bad. He'll be able to pump some money in, and slowly buy up more of the club over time. It's still an improvement so it's still a win, if it happens.
Wouldn’t read to much into it. I still have a feeling INEOS are being used to get a bigger bid from Qatar. Besides, Sir Jim buying 25% does not fix the core problem of much needed investment. If a nearly 12 month strategic review to seek alternative investment into the club, ends up with the result of the Glazer’s just lining their pockets - there will be hell to pay!
I'm beginning to think the same. He'll have to increase his bid by a big numberConvinced Jassim won't bother upping the bid as reckon he is certain they aren’t gonna sell to him
The article (behind a paywall)
Convinced Jassim won't bother upping the bid as reckon he is certain they aren’t gonna sell to him
A billion is a big figure. He won't just increase the bid to blow competition out the water for shits and giggles.Yeah I think INEOS are going to win this now. Sheik Jassim has seemingly stayed true to his take it or leave it offer, he would have been aware that INEOS were restructuring the deal, so I can’t imagine him increasing his bid by another billion now.
He would have just done that these past couple of months to truly blow INEOS out of the water.
Not really. It basically says Glazers might prefer Ratcliffe and Qatar might bid again.At least it’s something of a update.
At this point, I don’t give a shit who it is. Just want clarity.
The reactions to this on here
This thread is by far the biggest echo chamber I've ever seen.
Anyways, seems like the nightmare of state-ownership could really be avoided...who whould've thought?
I think he might, but can't see any investments until then. So we'll just keep getting crappierI didn't until Ratcliffe started talking about keeping those leeches on. Don't trust him to get rid of them in a staggered takeover at all
No Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
You posted this before the Bloomberg news today.Whilst I don’t want to interfere in your conversation, there is also matter of the club declaring its fourth periodic financial quarter and the final end of year annual financial report. This really must be done within the 2-3 weeks maximum and if there is a potential sale, then this must also be reported to all NYSE shareholders or at least outlined.
Are you seriously trying to argue glazers are not leeches, is this what has become of ratcliffe fan boys, pretending glazers are actually good owners or something now?Keep regurgitating the same old baseless claims that you have been saying since February. Like I said, there are dozens of users on here that will pat you on the back for it.
The article (behind a paywall)
I’d rather be midtable than get Qatar to be fair. We’ve been crap for ages, another 10 years is a cakewalk to me.No Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
I still maintain if Qatar thought they were going to lose the race, and they weren't going to up their bid, they'd leave on their terms.A billion is a big figure. He won't just increase the bid to blow competition out the water for shits and giggles.
Now we will see if hel do it out of genuine worry of losing the deal.
It's in direct contrast to their last update when they said Ratcliffe's bid was dead in the water. Must mean something's changed.Not really. It basically says Glazers might prefer Ratcliffe and Qatar might bid again.
Its not a dictatorship, I think it's an evident bidding war. Glazers prefer minority stake or a feck off offer. Qatar haven't yet given a feck off offer, and that's on them.I still maintain if Qatar thought they were going to lose the race, and they weren't going to up their bid, they'd leave on their terms.
They won't be dictated to by the Glazers, they'd pull out of negotiations and speak out to save face. They won't just be rejected
Obviously something has changed. Ratcliffe made a minority offer.It's in direct contrast to their last update when they said Ratcliffe's bid was dead in the water. Must mean something's changed.
We’ve never been mid table even under the Glazers. Just a strange argument to make tbhNo Ratcliffe and his leeching sidekicks are the real nightmare but hey let's stay mid table just to take the moral high ground
They said dead in the water unless he restructured it. Which he has.It's in direct contrast to their last update when they said Ratcliffe's bid was dead in the water. Must mean something's changed.
Yeah and they'll withdraw if they feel they stand no chance. They're not going to let the Glazers just reject them are they?Its not a dictatorship, I think it's an evident bidding war. Glazers prefer minority stake or a feck off offer. Qatar haven't yet given a feck off offer, and that's on them.
Yeah that's standard face saving tactics.Yeah and they'll withdraw if they feel they stand no chance. They're not going to let the Glazers just reject them are they?
They'll pull out and say that the Glazers are difficult to deal with and they showed no compromise etc.
Well no he's not has he?They said dead in the water unless he restructured it. Which he has.
Are you seriously trying to argue glazers are not leeches, is this what has become of ratcliffe fan boys, pretending glazers are actually good owners or something now?
But they've already said they're not going to overpay, which lets be honest, £6bn for Manchester United is daylight robbery!Yeah that's standard face saving tactics.
My point is, if the Qatar Sheikh regime for us were as rich as we thought, they'd bid the magic number to get it over the line if they were forced to.
If they didn't, I question their actual worth or perceived interest in our club specifically
You dont actually know anything, just that he's changed the structure of his offer for a minority stake and believed to have a staggered approach toward a majority ownership.Well no he's not has he?
He's ditched his 100% in favour of a minority share, giving the Glazers upto £1 billion to pocket for whatever they want. We all know not a single penny is going into the club, the debt is going to skyrocket and we're going to sink like a stone. But hey, if Jimmy is good with that, thats on him