Club Sale | It’s done!

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Completely agree and its good to hear someone else with a level-headed opinion on the matter.

Your completely right Chelsea, City, Saudis, and Newcastle are revolutionising the football landscape and we will quickly find ourselves slipping place by place.

Looking at the table you'd think third will keep us going but let's be honest in a single window it's all changed, your not talking about clubs buying for the first eleven to challenge starting spots. Your talking about depth like we've never seen where a teams second choice is as strong as the first but just different.

We are already scrambling around to sell DVB and Mctominey who are at best mid to lower table squad players.

Its only going to get worse for us and the spending required will be at least double what we've seen this window.

If you cant see it your lying to yourselves, we haven't challenged for a title in 10 years, we've struggled for top 4 in the last 5 and I believe under the current owners we will now slip to the next tier and possibly top 10 and I mean now , not in 5 years.

I hope as you say this squeezes the Glazers out and forces their hand but ill be honest, they will always go down the route of cash and for them not the club. As long as we are a huge commercial entity we will be under them and struggle as they make money off us and siphon it off.

i think it needs extreme action.
COmmon sense and Glazers dont go together. There entire ownership has involved multiple dumb decisions. They are also very greedy. The question is whether they realise how much the landscape has changed and that their days of under investing and using the club to fund their lifestyle are over.
 
If they don't sell now their reputation takes a hit in the business world. Major waste of time and resources for everyone involved
Their dad was the businessman, they're just a bunch of brats who have probably been told they shit gold from birth.
 
If they don't sell now their reputation takes a hit in the business world. Major waste of time and resources for everyone involved

This is why I just can’t believe the idea that they’re not selling, it would be utterly stupid of them to waste so many important and powerful peoples time.
 
I am done with peaceful protests and nice marches.
We need to stop games, even if it causes points deductions, we need to wreck the megastore.

Apparently, when the game vs Liverpool was stopped it caused massive shock to the Glazers, so we know now, how to make them listen.

The clubs being pulled through the mud, the greenwood situation, the handling of the sale, the dangling of the carrot, the inability to address any problems swiftly. Ive had enough.

I am due to go to the game vs Forest and if there's major protests I will be getting involved, the sit in, everything. I wish we could do what we did for stopping that ga,e and do it over and over again until the club is absolutely wrecked from points deductions, the share price is completely flat and they have no option but to sell.

I beg the rest of the fans do the same. Ive had enough.
 
The problem is if they haven’t come to an agreement in 9 months then when the hell will they?

At some point they will have an ultimatum from the bidders so they’ll either have to agree or they’ll be no sale.

None of the reasons for selling have gone away but they probably are greedy and stupid enough to run club further into the ground for another year or two I imagine.
 
This is why I just can’t believe the idea that they’re not selling, it would be utterly stupid of them to waste so many important and powerful peoples time.

It's what I am clinging on to but at this point I am close to giving up. I don't get what more they want
 
This is why I just can’t believe the idea that they’re not selling, it would be utterly stupid of them to waste so many important and powerful peoples time.
I'd really like also to agree with this. However, its the Glazers. I have zero faith they are not that stupid / selfish. They will do what it takes to line their own pockets, any expense can be pushed to the club and any reputational hit implies they have much of a reputation anyway. I suspect the entire business world, at least in the circles they move in, know what they are about, what motivates them and the pitfalls of dealing with them as a family entity. Raine, as unhappy as they may be, will get paid whatever. The contracts will see to that it won't be no sale no fee.

As for the costs borne by INEOS and the Jassim bid, well, thats their problem from a Glazer perspective. Should have offered more.
 
Not to excuse the Glazers but you see 100m transfer fees on the regular and Saudi Arabian football pumping huge money in the game... You probably think the bubble is going up up up and you can maybe extract more blood from that stone (or that MU is worth more than the valuation of 12 months ago).
 
Not to excuse the Glazers but you see 100m transfer fees on the regular and Saudi Arabian football pumping huge money in the game... You probably think the bubble is going up up up and you can maybe extract more blood from that stone (or that MU is worth more than the valuation of 12 months ago).
Greedy cnuts need to go. Ruining the club!
 
Not to excuse the Glazers but you see 100m transfer fees on the regular and Saudi Arabian football pumping huge money in the game... You probably think the bubble is going up up up and you can maybe extract more blood from that stone (or that MU is worth more than the valuation of 12 months ago).

If you do see that then you’d also have to see that you need to keep up with that kind of investment or you become an also ran.

I think we’ve got to hope that the Glazers can see what’s staring them in the face as pretty soon us being a big club is not going to be enough to keep around top 4.

Problem is I think the Glazers reckon they’re good owners and it’s just that United fans are hateful, ungrateful feckers.
 
Not to excuse the Glazers but you see 100m transfer fees on the regular and Saudi Arabian football pumping huge money in the game... You probably think the bubble is going up up up and you can maybe extract more blood from that stone (or that MU is worth more than the valuation of 12 months ago).

But they can’t find anyone to pay their current valuation so finding someone to pay an even higher one in the near future is even less likely. The idea people are queuing up to buy the club has been put to bed by this process. The scale of investment required is huge and just keeps going up.

It’s possible they do hold out but would be a big gamble as the club’s finances are poor and they have nothing to put in to help and aren’t very good at running a football club.

They may well be expecting more money and might have a theory about why it’s worth more but you have to recognise what buyers are willing to pay. It’s like trying to sell Mctominay for 45m, can speculate why he’s worth it but if no one will pay it all the speculation is irrelevant.
 
If you do see that then you’d also have to see that you need to keep up with that kind of investment or you become an also ran.

I think we’ve got to hope that the Glazers can see what’s staring them in the face as pretty soon us being a big club is not going to be enough to keep around top 4.

Problem is I think the Glazers reckon they’re good owners and it’s just that United fans are hateful, ungrateful feckers.
But they can’t find anyone to pay their current valuation so finding someone to pay an even higher one in the near future is even less likely. The idea people are queuing up to buy the club has been put to bed by this process. The scale of investment required is huge and just keeps going up.

It’s possible they do hold out but would be a big gamble as the club’s finances are poor and they have nothing to put in to help and aren’t very good at running a football club.

They may well be expecting more money and might have a theory about why it’s worth more but you have to recognise what buyers are willing to pay. It’s like trying to sell Mctominay for 45m, can speculate why he’s worth it but if no one will pay it all the speculation is irrelevant.

Oh yeah they're poor owners and they can't keep up that game or only inefficiently profit from it. Not sure they recognize that.

Edit : I'll add it wouldn't be surprising their urge to sell correlate with United poor or good results in the rest of the year.
 
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I think it’s still on because any self-respecting buyers would’ve backed out by now. It’s a bit of a circus.
 
Oh yeah they're poor owners and they can't keep up that game or only inefficiently profit from it. Not sure they recognize that.

They are too greedy to recognise it I imagine and that may cloud every decision they make.

To make any significant improvement on current bids that must mean postponing for 3-5 years. It’s not impossible but hard to believe someone would be offering them 1-2bn more in short term.

Maybe no amount till ever be enough and their hand will have to be forced somehow.
 
The Glazers were desperate for Saudi Arabia to join the bidding process but they can’t because they bought Newcastle, They probably think at some paint SA is so rich their just buy United, Liverpool and Arsenal as well for £25 billion and treat the EPL like the Saudi pro league their plaything but that’s not going to happen, Qatar will either walk away by November 1st or Close the deal, S Jimmy is living in a world of make believe if he thinks he can get to £7-7.3 billion pounds for 100% buy out!
 
I think it’s still on because any self-respecting buyers would’ve backed out by now. It’s a bit of a circus.

Maybe that’s what the Glazers want, drag it out long enough that Ratcliffe and Jassim get sick of waiting and pull out, then they can say the bidders have pulled out so we’ve no other choice but to stay on and accept minority investment.
 
I think it’s still on because any self-respecting buyers would’ve backed out by now. It’s a bit of a circus.
Exactly especially Qatar, it’s almost like Raine telling the Glazers someone recently leaked that the deal will close at £7bn+ in November and we need to pour water over the fire to dampen rumours and get the stock price back under control before you get accused of Stock manipulation!

It’s happening so frequently you have to think maybe a deal been struck but Qatari using more time to manoeuvre the ridiculous amounts of cash required !
 
Imagine what a flipbook of takeover headlines in chronological order would look like. The media coverage of this story has been laughable. Do not allow your sentiments to be influenced by unreliable journalists. We'll know when we hear an announcement of some kind. Until then, it's almost entirely filler. This same headline has been periodically written numerous times throughout this saga. This is not exactly breaking news. :lol:
 
Maybe that’s what the Glazers want, drag it out long enough that Ratcliffe and Jassim get sick of waiting and pull out, then they can say the bidders have pulled out so we’ve no other choice but to stay on and accept minority investment.

I find it hard to believe they want minority investment, any money has to go back into the club or they’d lose control of it. If that was what they wanted and they had right deal they’d do without giving fans a 2nd thought.
 
I said it before Ten Hag being such an unexpected revelation in his first season gave Joel and Avram second thoughts. We'd be sold by now if last season had been disappointing.
 
To take any effect United are a massive club. Blackpool fans staged protest every game against the previous owners. With a pitch invasion which forced the game being called off.tennis ball protest anti banners and finally a boycott of the club and a not a penny more stance. It split the fan base which was inevitable. united fans are simply not going to empty old Trafford so what can be done.
 
I said it before Ten Hag being such an unexpected revelation in his first season gave Joel and Avram second thoughts. We'd be sold by now if last season had been disappointing.

The positive is that this season is likely to be a shocker, so Joel and Avram might cancel those second thoughts.
 


It is just to easy to be an journalist these days. You can write that some close to the sale process feel it’s a real concern that the Glazers might not sell. At least find a plausible reason for why they feel it’s a concern and maybe some information or suggestions of why the club is in a sale process in the first place.
 
I really wonder if ETH doing a pretty good job last year and getting us top 3 + a trophy has them thinking that they've found the right manager to get us successful again and boost the value of the club. If it's all looking like it's going tits up in a month or so and this time we really don't have the funds to emergency buy their way out of it maybe these hesitant, clueless parasites will finally give in and feck off. It's all I can do to hold on to some hope. Desperate for them gone at this point.
 
Christ, people getting their knickers in a twist over a Luckhurst tweet?

The toilet paper in the Wetherspoons bogs is more reliable than the M.E.N.

Why is it always doom and gloom with some of you?
 
Christ, people getting their knickers in a twist over a Luckhurst tweet?

The toilet paper in the Wetherspoons bogs is more reliable than the M.E.N.

Why is it always doom and gloom with some of you?
i mean doom and gloom was worrying the sale didnt get completed wayyyyyyy back in the beginning after like a day of negotiations. At this point we are past the summer, and the season has already started. The window is nearing a close, and there still is absolutely zero indication this sale is anywhere close to being completed. I remember when people were certain it would get done at some point that would allow new owner to implement their transfer plans. At this stage unless something happens soon it wouldnt even be completed in a time to allow for winter transfer window additions.
 
Christ, people getting their knickers in a twist over a Luckhurst tweet?

The toilet paper in the Wetherspoons bogs is more reliable than the M.E.N.

Why is it always doom and gloom with some of you?
(a) it's not just Luckhurst
(b) for all his issues, he does have some club contacts
(c) it fits the known facts.

Not saying it's true, but let's be honest - most of us suspect it's not far off.
 
i mean doom and gloom was worrying the sale didnt get completed wayyyyyyy back in the beginning after like a day of negotiations. At this point we are past the summer, and the season has already started. The window is nearing a close, and there still is absolutely zero indication this sale is anywhere close to being completed. I remember when people were certain it would get done at some point that would allow new owner to implement their transfer plans. At this stage unless something happens soon it wouldnt even be completed in a time to allow for winter transfer window additions.
There was never going to be a deadline for this. Manchester United is a giant of a club, as we’re all well aware.

The problem is that some fans here want the sale done and they want it done yesterday. I wanted it done the day it was announced they were exploring the sale.

But if it doesn’t happen until Xmas, so what? It will happen UNLESS the Glazers find a few billion in cash down the back of their sofa. Because they know they can’t afford to keep running things as they are.
 
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