Club Sale | It’s done!
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fecking brilliant
My Guess is Ratcliffe will assume some sort of control within the next few months. It’s what the two monsters wanted all along, they’ve been dictating the eventual outcome since the beginning.
I don't think 92F will be too active on the sporting side. They don't need to be! I really think they're in it mostly for the property investment side of things.
Manchester United have been close to the biggest transfer spenders in Europe over the last decade. And that's with the handicap of £1.6bn worth of debt/dividend payments. Imagine this table if you added in that extra money we just threw away to service the loans and pay the Glazers! £2500million would have looked pretty unstoppable. Though, of course, the inconvenient truth is that FFP would kick in before that even became possible.
1. Manchester City – £948.19million
2. Manchester United – £914.52million
3. PSG – £767.39million
4. Arsenal – £548.28million
5. Barcelona – £472.88million
6. Juventus – £467.6million
7. AC Milan – £415.76million
8. Chelsea – £388.35million
9. Liverpool – £340.64million
10. Bayern Munich – £388.58million
So neither Jassim nor Ratcliffe need to invest a penny into United's football costs. If they just fix the financial leaks going to the banks, they'll be grand. After that, the key will be finding best-in-class football people to run the club. But that's not an area either bidder has an advantage in, and they'd quite likely be trying to poach many of the same people from elite European clubs anyway.
My guess is that Jassim's consortium primarily wants to develop the area around Old Trafford, the same way other Qatari businessmen have done in London (Qatari interests have ownership in The Shard and Harrods, as a couple of high profile examples). It would mirror the same thing Manchester City's owners have done to develope the area around The Etihad. The blue side of Manchester even has this massive new state-of-the-art arena opening up in 2024:
These kind of projects in the Old Trafford hinterland would be where 92F would likely want to make most of their money, I reckon. I'm sure Ineos would run our football club just as well, but I don't think investment in surrounding infrastructure would be quite as high on their agenda. Property doesn't seem to be something they've shown much interest in elsewhere. And in Ratcliffe's own words, he just wants to "have some fun, so long as it’s sensible economically."
All in all, that's why I favour 92F. But I wouldn't be too upset about Ineos. I just think the people of Trafford/Manchester as a whole would see more benefit from the first option. And, most of all, I want the Glazers gone.
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Bit of a weird guess when nothing suggests this is likely at all.
The year where I went to work as a Bluecoat in a holiday camp, stories of which would get the site shut down.
Next year becomes even more hedonistic.The year where I went to work as a Bluecoat in a holiday camp, stories of which would get the site shut down.
Nice.
I don't think 'the people' will benefit from Qatari investment. It'll be run for profit (and political influence). Like Ancoats, it'll see gentrification leading to high-rent properties. Manchester does not particularly need another entertainment complex (politicised distractions), either, no matter how 'state-of-the-art'.
My concern is how they'll run United. The blatant fact Qatar will use us for PR is one thing, but the way in which they've mismanaged PSG sets alarm bells ringing.
Their bid is deeply concerning.
I think that too, and the club are using this period to agree some fees before things get crazy
1976
Apple Computer Company is formed by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak
Madonna is deposed as the President of Argentina by a military coup
Jimmy Carter Wins Presidential Election
The popular film “Rocky” is released in the United States ( CM Punk still has not seen it)
VHS was introduced, to Paul Jewell's elation.
Apple Computer Company is formed by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak
Madonna is deposed as the President of Argentina by a military coup
Jimmy Carter Wins Presidential Election
The popular film “Rocky” is released in the United States ( CM Punk still has not seen it)
VHS was introduced, to Paul Jewell's elation.
It may or may not be true but I find it at least more Plausible than Athletic pushing the narrative that Ineos or Nine Two foundation haven't had any communication from Raine or Glazer's since their last Bids and Glazer's could simply ghost them .
11 Jan 1976 - I started training to be a State Registered Nurse. The next five years made the holiday camp experience seem like being in a monastery.
I can’t get my head around the Glazers getting 2 multi-billion pound offers and just not even replying...I mean according to reports Qatar and Jim have heard nothing for weeks. Madness
Ah rim, needed that
the press probably just made it up
it's become abundantly clear most of them have been winging it, stands to reason they'd made something like this up when they've run out of nonsense to spout
It could be true, all the same.
The Glazers are hardly renowned for decisiveness and, past amateur analysis, they've never officially stated their want to sell.
This thread has seen an unwarranted level of vitriol aimed at journalists, mostly because they say things we don't want to hear.
How’s that going to happen? Pitch invasions just prior to the teams coming out and just sit on the pitch maybe throw something on the pitch just like the stop oil brigade? (what would you throw down to cancel play?) I can’t see law abiding citizens risking a CRO just to get rid of the Glazers but you never know, there’s probably enough match going CRO’s who wouldn’t give a feck and do just that.
I think there is a Grey area where you can get a game called off without getting into serious trouble
I'm one of the few people who feel like they haven't mismanaged PSG as much as we seem to think. PSG were basically midtable with practically zero international presence when Qatar acquired them and now people are disappointed when they don't cruise to the french title. Many point to the many High profile signings over the years but when you think about it, PSG is not run like normal clubs. They aggressively try to cater to the American market which is untapped. That means they have to have high profile signings. Nasser is a tool I agree but He is not as incompetent as many like to believe. At the end of the day, PSG are a small Paris club playing in the French league. Manchester City for example, play in a much better and bigger league where the exposure is huge and sporting success is paramount.
Glad someone’s mentioned this, although it seems to be growing beyond Ancoats into Miles Platting and Collyhurst now. Must be said the city council are already deep in Abu Dhabi pockets so not sure a rival state will have the same influence (albeit via Trafford Council?). Either way, beyond shiny trophies, not sure what good will come from it for “the people.”
I agree. I can see the criticism regarding all the bullshit with big egos and stuff like that. That said, they do a lot of right moves as well.
Gambit is born.
May be a Gandhi / Just Stop Oil type protest of peacefully sitting on the pitch.
Plus the media love that type of inaction.
I think you're being a bit harsh with the club pre-QSI takeover though there's no denying it was going through dark times (but much improved pre-takeover, 4th than 2nd in the transitional season with a still scaled to French elite recruitment... Colony Capital probably were less stingy with the sale becoming a reality). PSG was still fairly rich, popular and a media darling club.
They made decent money out of academy player.
QSI paid for new state of the art training grounds (just completed) which was sorely needed and I think in retrospect the team core(s) of Sirigu / T.Silva - Marquinhos - Maxwell / Matuidi - T.Motta - Verratti / Ibra - Cavani performed like a real coherent team though they hit a lower ceiling than expected.
Since the Neymar deal though all the bad aspects that existed beforehand (Pension Home FC + a bulimic scatter approach to recruitment throwing money and players and coaches at the problem) became prominent while the sport project regressed.
That’s the way.
With a group of just 10 people with 1 of them at a time interrupting the game, PEACEFULLY, every 10 minutes, every home game, you could create a situation for the Glazers that was increasingly untenable and embarrassing.
So where is this at these days? I've taken a bit of a mental health break from this thread and having dipped back in today, all I can see of note is Rimaldo's little lizard porn sketch.
That's pretty much the highlight of the last 500 pages.
Has everyone given up?
Ive said before that I think this will be done after the transfer window closes now. I can imagine a scenario where Ratcliffe or Qatar will want a bedding in period of at least until January without making any rash buys, which come back to haunt them, without any of their own staff up to speed with the club. Having 1 Sept to 31 Dec to bed in their own people, before the next windoe opens.
I have - genuinely feel the bids haven't tempted them enough.
What PSG achieved before Qatar arrived is irrelevant . 33% of Ligue 1's entire wage bill is PSG. Their wage bill is approx 5-6 times the size of their next biggest rival Marseille.
So them winning the French league is hardly an achievement, them not winning it isn't disappointing it's baffling. They won the league by a point over Lens last year, Lens wage bill is 19m Euros vs PSG's 353m Euros. The fact they haven't cruised the league by 10-20+ points every year since Qatar took over is testament to the mismanagement going on at PSG.
And that's without even getting into the their continued failure in the CL year on year and the wealth of talent on their doorstep that they've completely ignored and/or failed to develop in favour of big name mercenaries.
The process is dead. Glazers will stay until the eventual death of this club. Their greed is completely irrational, delusional. All hope is lost.
Accept the reality, you will feel better. Don't lie to yourself.
I just hope that Old Trafford doesn't crumble/collapse in some way(as a consequence of longterm, total neglect) that would cause serious harm to people, until the club goes into administration/bankruptcy.
Accept the reality, you will feel better. Don't lie to yourself.
I just hope that Old Trafford doesn't crumble/collapse in some way(as a consequence of longterm, total neglect) that would cause serious harm to people, until the club goes into administration/bankruptcy.
My hopes for a sale is gone. I do not think this will happen. Futhermore I fear how the uncertainty about the future of the club will affect the players, when the PL starts again.
Still better managed and with better results than Nice.
Has something relevant happened in the sales process? Or still total silence from the leeches?
Maybe, maybe not. But who gives a feck about Nice.
If we’re critiquing how PSG is run - a club that is run by different individuals than those bidding for Utd, it seems very odd to dismiss how Nice is run - a club run directly by the exact same man bidding to takeover Utd, surely?
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