Club Sale | It’s done!

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They are negotiating as if it’s the final completion but they think something untoward could be at play,

Sounds like J&A are trying to make it a feit accompli by presenting the SJR done deal to the board. The untoward thing is that the siblings haven't agreed to it. SJR must know that perfectly well. He also knows that if Qatar pulls out then they will have to agree so feking about is fine by him. He's basically bribing the small but critical axis of J&A with future money and Class A shareholder money. Qatar are offering their own money.
 
I'm fascinated by the idea they're split like that, it'll make great TV when Netflix finally turn it into a miniseries.

I'm still hopeful for the SJR bid, but I feel like it's dead in the water, I don't see SJ backing down after previously saying "This is our final final last bid 100% or bust", and then immediately improving that bid after a deadline he set himself. I think he's happy to wait.

Either way, I'm sure we'll definitely think about the process of something maybe happening definitely, it's a distinct possibility these things may absolutely potentially occur this week or at some week in the near or not near future.
Its becoming apparent it’s a situation of who blinks first. I firmly believe Joel & Av won’t relent until SJ offers them the full asking price.
 
Either they're haggling, or the Glasers are split Succession style or it's a done deal. Also there is a possibility that they may stay on with minority investment. Ratcliffe? He could still make it work. Or maybe he can't. So yeah this may or may not be happening soon.

Hopefully they are playing Boar on the floor as we speak?
 
Do Americans have bank holidays? Wasn't aware their public things were the same.

Anyhow according to a list I've found Raine Group isn't one of those who close on this day... Big day?
However the NYSE is not, which means it’s a perfect day to announce a new owner and then the shares trade will be closed tomorrow pending final change of company ownership name etc, this means either SJR or SJ would know right now because their both not transferring money into the Glazers Accounts!

Maybe SJR went back for 100% and maybe it’s true or maybe SJ started making payments on Friday and they were cleared yesterday! Who knows ?
The one thing I know if SJ/Qatar liar to SJR it will be the most embarrassing defeat in their short history !
 
Utterly mind blowing to even imagine turning down a multi billion pound offer if reports are accurate, the bare minimum each Glazer stands to make is £500M at the very least, one has to be either deeply deeply insecure or massively greedy beyond comprehension if anyone turns that figure down, it makes no sense that anyone with a degree of rational thought would say no to such an offer, beggars belief.
 
Utterly mind blowing to even imagine turning down a multi billion pound offer if reports are accurate, the bare minimum each Glazer stands to make is £500M at the very least, one has to be either deeply deeply insecure or massively greedy beyond comprehension if anyone turns that figure down, it makes no sense that anyone with a degree of rational thought would say no to such an offer, beggars belief.

They will take the best offer, just like you or I buying baked beans in Tesco. They are motivated only by money and risk in regard to their ownership of Manchester United. Pehaps they are kind to animals too but we will never know. Truth is they should never have been allowed to buy the club but football is not a community affair any more. Not in England anyway.
 
Seems pretty clear that J&A want SJR and the siblings want Qatar. That scenario is pretty consistent with everything being said. So one of the Glazer factions will have to back down or it will be a no sale disaster and they all lose along with us.



I reckon that's a lot harder to prove. Turning down an offer is a lot more clear cut than dithering, which can be explained away quite easily.

Yeah I reckon that's the split as well and unfortunately that pair of leeches probably get their man instead
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!

Doubt it, would have to do something really bad to get to that.

People just wanna hate from the off.
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!
That’s a lot of details plucked out of nothing!
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!
This is a parody, right?
 
Doubt it, would have to do something really bad to get to that.

People just wanna hate from the off.
I don’t hate but if SJR wins, he needs to clear the debt and be very clear with his manifesto, we only have Nice to judge him
On and he’s been an unmitigated disaster as owner of that club, if he’s going to manage United in the same way, he will be hated, his first year should he take control of the club needs to be near perfect.
 
Neither owners are perfect, but surely with Ratcliffe we are going to be as bad burnt than scalded. We will still be in loads of debt, run by someone with a bad owner track record in football. At least with Qatar we will be in with a shout of major investment and silverware.
 
Thats one way of demolishing OT through the help of earth tremours... and rebuilding it elsewhere.
Like I said for Context, why buy the rights if your not going to use them, as united fans in the last decade we normally say ; “Things can’t get any worse, we’ve had the Glazers in charge, things can only get better?”
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!

He's already more hated and will sick to my stomach if Jassim loses out now
 
Utterly mind blowing to even imagine turning down a multi billion pound offer if reports are accurate, the bare minimum each Glazer stands to make is £500M at the very least, one has to be either deeply deeply insecure or massively greedy beyond comprehension if anyone turns that figure down, it makes no sense that anyone with a degree of rational thought would say no to such an offer, beggars belief.
The club's value will probably sky-rocket when the new TV deals come in, I think they're factoring this into their thinking. They're American venture capitalists, it's in their nature to make sure they're getting the maximum they can get out of any deal.
 
I tend to agree, the guy on the you tube who said Jim bid was dead in the water worked for Bloomberg and said the minority share holders would be a huge issue. The key word here is ‘Untoward
They are negotiating as if it’s the final completion but they think something untoward could be at play, what makes anyone think they’ve actually made their mind up, they have both parties getting ready to basically announce either a final bidding round or a winner, or neither, but I’d still take a punt and say it’s Qatar, the Glazers will want to maybe have future sports opportunities in the Middle East for them to stay in control, the Qatari would be fine with that, for them to sell to a rival bidder and embarrass the Qatari that’s a whole other level of stupid!

There are no future sports opportunities in Qatar for the Glazers. Why do people keep bringing this up? Nobody in Qatar wants to watch American sports and nobody in America wants to play in Qatar. If they did the Saudis would have already done it.

Bringing the NFL to London and Europe as a whole is one thing. There is a decent following here and a fairly similar climate to that which games are played in the US. Trying to take it to Qatar, and specifically the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who I doubt 99% of people in Qatar have either never heard of of don't care in the slightest about them (the 1% being US military personnel) is just laughable.

The entire concept of Qatar being able to offer sporting opportunities is frankly laughable. They threw a world cup and as soon as it finished and people were not requires to attend matches anymore, they stopped caring.
 
Like I said for Context, why buy the rights if your not going to use them, as united fans in the last decade we normally say ; “Things can’t get any worse, we’ve had the Glazers in charge, things can only get better?”

You do know a very large percentage of the north is under such licenses? They aren't that targeted to a level that INEOS need a master plan to buy a multi billion club to access a relatively small site :lol:
 
He's already more hated and will sick to my stomach if Jassim loses out now
If he start digging up carrington in the next two years, watch the fan base go marching to parliament with a motion to make Old Trafford a listed and protected building. We might be about to jump out of the fire into an even hotter Frying Pan, like I said I hope with every fibre in my body that my hunch is completely wrong, I do and we can all look back and laugh and take the p…out of these ridiculous posts, let’s hope I’m having a bad hunch moment?
 
I'd love to know what's holding up the process - the Glazers are managing the impossible: to get United fans to hate them more
 
I Have a sneaking suspicion, especially rewatching Rio podcast that The Glazers will announce that SJR is the preferred bidder, loads of smoke, that they’ve done a deal with the minority share holders to receive a small dividend windfall where INEOS guarantee to buy out the minoroty shares in the next three years at a premium, like the put and call bid on Avram and Joel but all 6 Glazers might also stay in some way.

This will be to try and force Qatar to make one desperate last ditch bid, which they won’t as they are completely exhausted with the process and they will call the Glazers bluff, but the Glazers just won’t care so SJR and Joel with Avram will be calling the shots, going forward.

Watch the shares plummet on the 5th of July and Qatar might suffer their most shocking and significant defeat in their history, yes it will be challenged and at some point fans will realise that INEOS have an ulterior motive since they own the Fragging rights for all 43 acres that the club currently own and have done since 2015, if this transpired this will be the next protracted thread on CAF.

Sir Jim from being our knight in shining armour could potentially in 2 or 3 years become even more hated than the Glazers!

Feels like you are forgetting the four other siblings. It´s not like A&J talks for everyone.
 
You do know a very large percentage of the north is under such licenses? They aren't that targeted to a level that INEOS need a master plan to buy a multi billion club to access a relatively small site :lol:
Nice reply but he only needs to start fragging in one acre near the 43 acres, so laugh as much as you want, if you own the club and you own the land, do the math ?
 
He could still be right though?
It's not looking very likely though is it?
It’s only 9.22am in New York, announcements like this could be just after lunch or Not at All!
I could be wrong, but the timing doesn't really matter here. It's 4th of July and a bank holiday in the US. I'd imagine this wasnt the day to choose any leaks or announcements.
 
It's not looking very likely though is it?
I could be wrong, but the timing doesn't really matter here. It's 4th of July and a bank holiday in the US. I'd imagine this wasnt the day to choose any leaks or announcements.
However it’s perfect for the NYSE as it’s not open, giving them time tomorrow to suspend trading, that’s the only reason I saw some credibility in Rio’s leak yesterday but he did say SJR was still right in the battle and not out like some had been saying.
 
Am I remembering wrong or was it just news about the takeover not saying it will be announced today? Still lots of time for news today
 
However it’s perfect for the NYSE as it’s not open, giving them time tomorrow to suspend trading, that’s the only reason I saw some credibility in Rio’s leak yesterday but he did say SJR was still right in the battle and not out like some had been saying.
Why can't they just announce on any given weekend then?
Technically it was his podcast host saying something today and the day isn't over.
Didn't Rio also chat some shit with him too? Basically agreeing and saying he's also been speaking to Ornstein but he can't say what it is.
 
So much for the announcement today. To the surprise of no one, of course.
 
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