No, I dont think that matters though
Club Sale | It’s done!
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For the Qataris to walk away now when there’s been so much in all the media recently that ;
1. Their confident now of wining or the only other result would be the Glazers are not selling?
2. All of the leaks that they SJ and 92 Foundation are in the driving seats and Reuters and Bloomberg collaborating that information.
3. little leaks from the Middle East prematurely congratulating SJ and his father within last 3 weeks since the 5th bid,
4. SJ Brother writing something about the Mason Mount transfer on Instagram then deleting it quickly.
This would be the most embarrassing financial defeat in their recent history, not just to the country but to the country amongst their Middle Eastern peers, seriously it would be a huge loss for the region, so much so I actually think the Emir, who is also rumoured to be a United fan might order them to rebid £6.5bn through their private bidder SJ.
The same dark, warm, musky and obnoxiously pungent place every other bit of talk has come from.
Totally agree, the share price is stable, slightly rising at close $24.70, I’m assuming their is no stock market open tomorrow as a huge bank holiday in the US, so what an announcement on a us Bank Holiday, then all trade is suspended the next day?
I’m not buying this as it looks like huge stock market manipulation and it’s illegal.
It does though if someone is claiming that Bloomberg are reporting it.
And reporting something in print via Bloomberg and saying you've heard something on a United fan channel are not the same thing. If it was such massive news it'd be in a Bloomberg article, the fact that it isn't is telling. Because if that info was solid then I don't imagine his editor would be thrilled that he was giving that exclusive to another media outlet.
Cannot see a postponement, can only see the Glazers wanting to cash out to the maximum and now while it is guaranteed.
He would still be able to negotiate favourable rates though. He has a very healthy company which is unlikely impacted to much by the economic downturn and in United he would be buying an asset that is very likely to appreciate in value as well as the growth of the Premier League. Due to the numerous TV deals, sponsorships and long waiting lists for season tickets, there is basically a guaranteed source of revenue for at least the next few years which puts anyone looking for finance for a Premier League club on a better position than most.
Nick speed been saying this for two months
If Qatar lose this, they look like clowns. No doubt about it. They've spent 8 months negotiating, putting in bids and setting up company houses. For a proud national who always gets what they want, they'd looking fecking dumb coming this far and losing.
This is the most boring saga in the history of boring sagas.
I refuse to believe any reports at this point.
It's never gonna end.
I refuse to believe any reports at this point.
It's never gonna end.
There won't be a postponement. Nobody really knows anything. For all we know it could be that the previous reports of legal action had some basis in reality and the delay is the Glazers and Ratcliffe working on how to combat it or eliminate any possibility. Or not.
A complete fabrication that has been repeated so many times, some fans (mainly pro-Ratcliffe) actually believe it now. It is very strange to see some Manchester United fans not realize how special this badge is.
Went to th Austria GP this weekend. Was really hoping to get back to good news.
Sadly not. Kind of starting to lose hope at this point. Will a sale even happen......
Sadly not. Kind of starting to lose hope at this point. Will a sale even happen......
Sounds like this could be a valuable life lesson tbh.
That would certainly suit the Glazers. As long as the Qataris don't mind looking silly and everyone saying they are just playboys who got their pants taken down by proper business folk like when they bought Harrods. My feeling is that this is a factor too.
Wow
The "they'll go and buy Liverpool if they don't buy United" is a staple of the pro Qatari camp and a primary reason why it's important that they buy United.
It has been pointed out however that Liverpool are not for sale and Jassim is a die hard United fan who doesn't even acknowledge Liverpool exist. Every night his father sings "feed the Scousers" so that Jassim can sleep soundly.
The Saudis wanted us too. But they bought Newcastle instead.
If Ineos have indeed been meeting with lawyers and representatives of the class A shareholders in New York, as per Daniel Harris, then you could be correct.
Big day tomorrow.
It's as plausible an explanation as any and I've just made it up on the spot.
I'm basically a journalist now.
I feel like getting to the bottom of this should be the new priority of this thread.
At this point it would actually quite funny if the losing party sues..
@Infra-red can you post the Daniel Harris article so I can have a look? Thanks.
Bloomberg and Reuters both reported that the Qatari bid was viewed more favourably by the Glazers. The Bloomberg reporter stated in his interview on United View that sources from within the club (as opposed to within the Qatari camp) told him the INEOS bid is dead, unless they can pony up for a 100% buyout.
The only way it suits the Glazers is if Qatar raise their bid or heavens above withdraw it and then the Glazers can only use SJR but he then decides the bid was way overvalued so he reduces his bid for the 60-69% control so he can offer the minority some form of compensation, the only win here for united fans whichever side of the fence you sit on, is Either SJ buys 100% or SJR/INEOS buys 100% and finds the other £3bn necessary now, don’t forget the 6,9m or 4.3% of A class shares the Glazers also hold which would be worth at $38 per share at a fair trade offer from SJ/Qatar is another $262m as well.
Smoke, mirror and more disinformation to get Qatar to raise to £6bn, he might just walk away or Reuters, Bloomberg and all the rumour mongers might actually be right and Tomorrow they announce exclusivity with SJ to conclude the deal.
We don’t know and I hazard a guess maybe less than 25 people in the world actually know anything right now, especially the British press, they’ve played their part wonderfully by being all three parties puppets throughout the whole process!
It becomes a much of a muchness if the journalist from bloomberg is citing the side of his source and the driver for the article.
It's a bit like Ornstein giving context on a podcast but not actually going into that side in his article. It doesn't make his podcast context any less valid.
Surely we can trust the guy who sources his tweets by posting screenshots of fiction that he has posted himself on another website.
I'm pretty sure the Daniel Harris thing was a pisstake.
Saudis wanted a football club. They went for the best deal for them. Of course they wanted us. This isnt how Qatar went about it. They heard we were for sale and were willing to wait and increase their offer that was arguable more than any football club is worth. If they wanted a big football club, they would have bought Chelsea. They want arguably and potentially the biggest club in the world. They want Qatar to own a giant piece of modern pop culture.
Most of the British press reporting been bs, just writing on a whim and hunch !
Big day 17 Thursday's from now
Just contemplating that is horrendous
That would send me off at the deep end
Probably been said before but share price watching has become the new flight tracking.
This is not an option. There's a reason they need to sell. Its untenable for them to stick around because it'll take significant investment. Their asset is completely rotting to the ground they've sucked us completely dry. Time to move on. They're not doing us a favour. They're selling because they have to
I think the story that INEOS are in the process of sorting the legal stuff out and wrapping this up seems pretty credible.
EDIT - Not one bite. You lot just don't have the energy you used to.
EDIT - Not one bite. You lot just don't have the energy you used to.
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Oh god the thought is absolutely nauseating and like my worst nightmare coming true
Having seen the Harris tweet he does say he is joking in a reply to someone. Though it's still a possibility and would explain a few things, particularly the lack of news recently.
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