What an odd response. I stated you don't know the specifics of said option and you told me to go look up put and call
Someone else asked you the same question and you said you don't know
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Someone else asked you the same question and you said you don't know
Maybe if he flexed the financial muscles of the state in the bidding process, and blew SJR away, people would immediately make comment about where exactly did the extra funds come from if he is after an independent business man.
It's starting to feel exactly like how it was perceived from the start. Daddy doesn't really believe in the investment but is being pressured by his sons. I guess he's difficult to squeeze. It certainly doesn't feel like the takeover/ownership will be anywhere near as fun as City/PSG/Newcastle.
The call option is of course above, but that is on Ineos end. The put options that are the Glazer's insurance that they won't get stuck with their shares could very well be below what Ineos are offering for the 51%, or at least make the total package worth less than SJ's.
If Ineos win and take over, can we have them sponsor our kits?
I'd guess yes, because Nice also have them.
I'd guess yes, because Nice also have them.
What worries me the most is how badly Nice have been run…
Have to admire some thinking this SJR deal is the better option of the two. “Qatar Using intermediaries” being a reason for that.
Give me some of what you’re smoking please. Already light years behind city which will only widen, Newcastle will leave us in their wake too.
We might actually be able to compete somewhat with transfers as we have at times with Glazers but you can wave goodbye to substantial infrastructure upgrades which are exempt from FFP. No way is SJR finding £1-£2bn for a new stadium and training ground with facilities etc.
Give me some of what you’re smoking please. Already light years behind city which will only widen, Newcastle will leave us in their wake too.
We might actually be able to compete somewhat with transfers as we have at times with Glazers but you can wave goodbye to substantial infrastructure upgrades which are exempt from FFP. No way is SJR finding £1-£2bn for a new stadium and training ground with facilities etc.
You may be correct, but I’d be shocked if that’s the case. If there’s one thing the Glazers are good at it’s earning money. My main point was, the Glazers selling all their shares over a longer period of time isn’t automatically a worse deal than all at once. There’s potential for them to earn even more through that approach.
A completely credible concern. It would be lunacy to ignore that.
Just as long as we don't end up in the same calamitous situation as Nice, after Brexit Jim and the bike guy took over.
You know in a bidding process like this, potential buyers are vetted, right? Otherwise i might as well have gone to go through my name in as an option, even though i barely have $6 to my name, let alone $6bn+...
What you're saying is that there's risk and a premium associated with that. Or they can bang the money in a savings account or even an index and still get the same money back guaranteed in a more liquid manner.
Not sure how you can go about tossing lack of information as the weak point of an opinion when you yourself know nothing more than them and are just speculating.
Where as Sheikh Jassim has absolutely zero experience in running any sporting franchise.
Also a valid concern.
Great so why haven’t the Glazers thrown out the 51% offer if it isn’t beneficial to them? INEOS also have an offer for the 69% on the table surely we’d have heard the 51% bid being laughed out of the room if you’re so sure it’s not worth all the money today?
Reminds me of the fitbathatba cartoon on YT.Feels a little like the OG Sancho saga doesn’t it
More of a risk therefore than a certainy?
Wow this has never been brought up before in here.....
You don't have to answer with the same bullshit to every post, including ones that have 0 relevance to yours.
Yes. However, for the purposes of the FSR (FFP) calculation of football earnings, only the "fair value" of the sponsorship is relevant to the calculation (i.e. Ineos can sponsor United, but that sponsorship deal will need to be of a magnitude that would be deemed fair value - they can't sponsor us £300m per season for having their name on the shirt).
Nice aren't exactly struggling to stay up. He also owns a very successful cycling team.
Like I said previously anyone will twist this the way they want it to go.
Ultimately he's had 5 bids now and he's still not offering the Glazers the best deal. What does that say about him and the Qatar backed deal?
He needs to put up now or shut up. Absolute embarrassment keep bidding slightly higher but not higher than the front runner. What's the point?
I’ll take that over all the super original and side-splittingly funny rat and brexit nicknames.
Them AND Lausanne. Those have been total shitshows in both cases.
I just want Sir Jim to already knock his own king down on the chess board already.
Considering I’ve been in the man’s house, I can confirm he isn’t AI generated.
Alright space cadet. What are you prattling on about?
It is rather odd that a company that owns a club can sponsor them regardless of fair value.
We could do it and if the PL say anything then just say well you're doing nothing about City so we will do the same. Call their bluff.
Their incompetence during this whole bidding process is certainly a concern
Indeed. UEFA seem less concerned with related-party transactions in the new FSR. They no longer care who is sponsoring a club, but rather they're concerned with the size of that sponsorship. I guess it got tiring trying to work out which of City & PSG's multiplicity of ME-based sponsors were or were not related parties - easier to just say, "you can keep Etihad on the shirt, but we're only counting £70m a season of the deal towards the financial calculations - the rest is excluded."
Obviously, otherwise they would have taken the Sheik's deal already. But there's both the time value of money to take in to account and the different probabilities of ending up in the put scenario or the call scenario. Ineos offer has both a downside cap and an upside cap so it's not like it can give the Glazer's some kind of outlandish return on their remaning shares.
Glad someone has the balls to say it. They have been a mess.
This entire process I've been under the impression that there is no way the Glazers insult and shun the Qatari's because of the absolute INSANE business opportunities they could explore in the middle east, with their help. No matter what the media say. But now I'm not so sure. I cannot figure this out to save my life. Clueless as to what they're doing.
Agreed, yeah. But that upside cap is probably mighty enticing. I’m just trying to refute the insane notion that Jassim’s bid is obviously better because it’s all up front.
Even Jim must be thinking he's being messed about too.
It's been a bit of a car crash from all three parties and doesn't reflect well on any of them.
It's been a bit of a car crash from all three parties and doesn't reflect well on any of them.
Didn't Paul Mitchell get labeled as a fraud in Monaco? His stint over there has been a total failure.
Hes not defined by his stint at Monaco
I’ve had to order new ribs from Bangladesh twice already as a result of the hilarity
I hear that evil Jim has ruined Nice by making sure they only sign nice players, because he thought it's a great joke. Then he sat in his chair all season while laughing in a deep voice like a true old-style film villain. Horrible.
I guess we'll know in a couple of days either way.
The whole bidding process from every angle has been a labourious shite show.
I’ve seen this written a few times and I’d love to know why. Most of their purchases under him have been relatively to very successful (hell, we’re linked to one at the moment in Disasi and heavily linked to another last year Vanderson). I’d also love to know why Monaco completely erases his good work elsewhere.
I genuinely don’t know by the way, I’ve not followed Monaco. Just looking on paper.
This is how I think.
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