And who’s gonna meet the price?
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I already knew there was no point reasoning with you. This puts another marker to that. Good on you.
haha ok, so you say SJR is buying the club for profit. Then how about INEOS investing money in the club to increase the value of their share?
They will have to sell eventually. They probably would have gone that route if this idiot hadn't offered them a lifeline
How is it not?
There is no point arguing with people who think that Ratcliffe is a better owner despite tanking clubs in the swiss league and the French league. How could a multi billionaire company mess so badly in such farmer leagues? I'd help you answer to that. First they involve people with zero football knowledge to take Football decisions. Then they bring players the manager has no clue about from the EPL dustbin and expect him to compete with PSG with them
Implying that you think Jim, Jassim or both cannot? You really think the process would have come this far if that was the case?
There isn't a great deal of detail but sounded like O'Neill flew out to Qatar to pitch to a Qatari délégation which included Sheikh Jassim among others
As we know the Red Knights didn't manage to get their consortium together, too many cooks spoil the broth as they say
Plus they didn't agree with the Glazer valuation at the time which supposedly was £2bn - seems like a bargain nowadays !
Ok that is enough. We fans have to do something about it. Announce boycott on mass scale on stadium attendances, make it public and mass protests. They can’t just feck the club literally.
Didn't you know, SJR is just a pauper roleplaying as Britain's richest man and INEOS is just a small startup?
I reckon every United fan would have taken Jim with 6 leeches hanging on his coattails for another few years if we were offered this last year.
Especially if he took full control and can burn them off down the line.
Especially if he took full control and can burn them off down the line.
So according to you…had INEOS not been involved in the bidding process, it’s a cert that the Glazers would’ve just sold the club to Jassim? And not only that, but they would’ve sold it for less than his current bid?
Yeah…that makes sense.
Maybe but there is a better alternative.
Whilst the Glazers invest nothing. Make sense?
It makes perfect sense. I'm not entirely sure why you're having trouble figuring that out?So according to you…had INEOS not been involved in the bidding process, it’s a cert that the Glazers would’ve just sold the club to Jassim? And not only that, but they would’ve sold it for less than his current bid?
Yeah…that makes sense.
So according to you…had INEOS not been involved in the bidding process it’s a cert that the Glazers would’ve just sold the club to Jassim? And not only that, but they would’ve sold it for less than his current bid?
Yeah…that makes sense.
The minority stake thing was something the Glazers had explored for months and they couldn't work it out, hence why the club was put on sale after talks with apollo had collapsed. The Glazers might remain because ineos made it possible.
I've yet to understand why should I feel happy about swapping one bad owner to another. Its evident with what happened at Nice and Lausanne that ineos is clueless in terms of football
Its just that you and many here don't seem to understand the difference between running a club for sustainability (esp during covid) and running a club that needs to win(and don't even repeat the misquoted quotes you keep bringing up in this thread of when INEOS bought the club). Do you actually think, INEOS will run the clubs in the exact same way as the other two clubs? Is that how low you think of United? I'd rather have those running the club, who at least have had experiences running clubs, hopefully learning from those mistakes, than someone who has no experience running a club. And not being turned into a plastic club is also a big plus.
Just to be clear, it works the other way around, right? If Jassim hadn't come along Sir Jim would've wrapped this up?
I miss the "we're getting bought by Apple" links right at the beginning. That was fun.
We're now stuck with any combo of parasites - and Qatar seem to be full of shit and all. Dangerous times for Manchester United up ahead.
We're now stuck with any combo of parasites - and Qatar seem to be full of shit and all. Dangerous times for Manchester United up ahead.
Anyone keeping one rat, let alone six, in place is a no-go. Hypocrites that talk about 'taking' this shite deal a year ago clearly fail to grasp the fact we're in this position (to be sold) because of the Glazers and them retaining influence is a recipe for disaster.
Not according to Raine there isn’t!
Did they release a statement or something?Not according to Raine there isn’t!
This is just bizarre. The Qatari bid would’ve been even further off the asking price; resulting in the chances of the Glazer’s opting for minority investment going up.
First of all I don't understand this united exclusivity. We are a club like any other. Actually being so big and in such competitive league makes it easier to mess things up then a smaller club in a farmer league.
I also respect ineos enough to believe that they did their best at Nice and Lausanne. I doubt that they winged things up or didn't took the clubs seriously. NICE/Lausanne demise is down to incompetence (which it is) rather then ineos using them as a toy.
What experience you are referring to? Having Bob Ratcliffe constantly being kicked upstairs despite messing time and again? Having a cyclist man Ted Lasso things up with his audits? When they took Nice they assured fans that they learnt from their mistakes at Lausanne. Look at Nice now
Qatar I believe can afford the club. Jim as well to a certain extent. But the financial outlook under Jim looks bleak. No commitment to remove the existing debt. No commitment to sort out OT and Carrington.
They have had ample opportunities to allay the fears of the supporters over these last few months regarding the debt and investment and yet we’ve had radio silence from Sir Jim which is a huge red flag.
Now I understand it. You do not want Qatar. But what SJR is offering with the lack of clarity regarding the debt and that he’s willing to let the fecking Glazers remain in some capacity is just outrageous.
If it’s not Qatar then I’d rather wait 12-24 months and hope that another bidder comes in that will clear the debt and send those fecking parasites packing.
Ratcliffe came up with this minority BS deal not Qatar
Obviously, if you only have only one bidder and no competition to drive up the price, then they would likely get less. Basic logic.
If we care purely about football, what is Jassims record in the world of football?
Also Throwing money at a problem? Glazers have thrown plenty of money. The Chelsea idiot also loves throwing money.
So you just completely ignored everything in the article and made things up to post? Okay.
The Glazers will retain zero influence, Ratcliffe/INEOS will get all the control, the Glazers will just have shares of monetary value to get a bigger pay off a few years down the line but they are arguing about who sells what shares and how many, so rather than the siblings selling out and Joel and Avram maintaining their higher, but NO control stakes, it seems likely all siblings will maintain some lower amount of shares but having NO control.
He's "keeping" them as you so aptly put because it's very likely that there is no alternative because they do not want to leave just yet, and so in order to get any sort of deal over the line he's having to appease them slightly so that they relent control.
I seriously don't understand what is so hard to grasp here, people genuinely have their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes and going lalalala
Wait and hope doesn’t sound like a viable future for our club.
I'd rather get the inexperienced owner with deep pockets who is committed to do things properly then the proven failure with a history of fudging things up.
Yes
Only if they feel compelled to sell. Basic logic also dictates that a sole bid that falls way short of the asking price will result in a greater reluctance to sell outright, and a greater acceptance of minority investment.
Hope our fans will let them know how we feel about these parasites tomorrow..
If minority investment was viable then they would have gone with it and they would retain full control over the Club.
Neither does having Glazers 2.0 as our owners.
History will not forget the irony of United fans absolutely ripping the fans of City and their club for being an oil money driven plastic club full of fake glory for years only for them to turn around, drop their pants and twerk for it at the first whiff of said money for themselves, Glazers being parasites or not.
How do you know he will do things properly?
you keep on pointing out Nice and Lausanne, before this thread the two teams had probably never been more discussed on the whole internet.. That in itself is interesting. But also Man Utd is a different kettle of fish altogether .
If ineos manage us the way it had managed nice and lausanne then History is all we'll be having
Or maybe the majority of United fans just want a new ownership that doesn’t include the Glazers and removes all of the debt that those parasites have piled onto us.
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