Are these parasites going to hold onto the club after all this. Imagine the reaction.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Worth remembering that even Ratcliffe's 50% bid is going to be paid in instalments. Whereas SJ is offering the full payment now.
I would assume seeing as we have hired specialists we are already negotiating and scouting with both scenarios (rich and poor) in mind. Players will want to come. It should just be a matter of releasing the cash on the main priority area of the team and working backwards once the matter is settled. I’d imagine striker is #1. If we are rich we can pretty much fix the squad in one summer into one that should most likely be able to challenge. Hopefully anyway.
would be good to know @Plant0x84 ’s view on all this.
Riot like the French.
Apologies I shall refrain from providing my personal predictions in future.
Ok, cool. Although if you have any idea when BTC might next hit 50k I'm all ears. Asking for a friend.
December 3rd
ffsIt's purely a numbers game now with this saga reaching a hectic conclusion. Will there be a long period of silence or will we get an unexpected conclusion?
Exactly this is what will happen, Murtough and ETH will just assume that the club is being sold and both parties are probably looking at budgets of £200-250m with obvious players being sold. Five players released already including Jones and Tuanzebe which probably takes £160k off the wage bill already. Add the De Gea contract finishing and a new one being signed soon, you probably save another £175k per week. They will start on the obvious players being sold like E Bailly, A Teles and H Maguire. I think letting two CBs go and selling 2 more means it’s safe for them to pursue KMJ transfer, and probably a free Transfer like A Rabiot, I doubt any major transfers bar these two will be done before end of July early August at best.
I was referring to your thought process behind saying that SJR has no room to manouvre. Which is clearly based on nothing but what seems to be guesswork.
There are still people maintaining that this is not a state backed Qatari bid? Wow, how has it been 1300 pages of discussion, yet this basic point is still ongoing.
That plan to be rid of the debt is the sole reason why I'm for Qatar. Ratcliffe sounds like Glazers with extra steps.
Neither. This is the Glazers.
A long period of noise followed by a silent, underwhelming conclusion
Source?
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This will be interesting. It sounds the most outlandish claim I've heard in a while, as I'm sure that sort of offer would be straight into the bin.
One minute SJR is paying via a loan, then instalments...these guys need to get their story straight.
This present time its irrelevant, the budget will be the same whether or not the club is sold, burnt down, or placed as a Omaze prize. If someone can tell me different fair go, but thats what i see without being a mathematician.
I don't know about that. The Chelsea sale was done quickly because of the sanctions but if we go back and look at the prolonged nature of other takeovers its been fairly normal.
Yeah so am I but no chance Jassim gets the club unless he is willing to pay £6bn (Ratcliffe's overall bid). I find it utterly ridiculous they would rather stay on and wait 2-4 years for that than accept around £5.5bn now
You know how we constantly end up over paying on transfers because they take too long, mess around and then get taken to the cleaners? I think the Glazer boys have learned from this and are now trying to do it themselves. Can't wait to see the back of them, I really can't. Really hope, whenever the sale does go through, there is a 'you love to see it' style tweet from the club.
Best I can do is Ja Rule
Well done you've fell for the propaganda
In all of this clamour for there to be a swift conclusion to the process, has anyone thought of the shills in this thread? What are they going to do for money once the club has been taken over? It's not like their nans can afford to keep the separate broadband line in the basement for ever.
Where's Ratcliffe saying he will clear debt then
If they ever step foot in the UK again they would be idiots.
I can't imagine the reaction. People will do some horrible shite that is for sure.
Avram will be here on June 3
You were close. Most likely they would get rid of deadwood and sign whoever they like, which would turn us into a team of mercenaries full of players here for the paycheque and would probably drop their heads when things aren't going well. They'll keep throwing money at the problems and as I've said before, won't hesitate to sack ETH as soon as he fecks up as he isn't their man.
If they win out it will continue. After all, according to City they aren't state owned either.
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Tbf I don’t know what to make of this. Easy to hate it if you’re against his bid, which I am. But realistically it’s probably right. If we want green energy, or even less dependence on foreign energy, then you have to make it easier for British companies that are utilising British energy sources.
If talking about the executives etc then the same also applies. An executive at a British energy company needs an incentive to not feck off to the ME or any other region that offers pay/lifestyle advantages etc.
Finally we have some semblance of confirmation on currency, if SJR has bid as the Telegraph reports of $3bn which is £2.4 billion pounds with the other two Glazers potentially holding on to their £1.2bn with an agreement that their shares could potentially in 4 years be worth up to £1.8bn after major changes Made to Man united under SJR, theand only then would that offer be valued for £6 billion as £4.2bn is 69.5% of £6 billion.
This finally makes sense and is being reported inaccurately by most Uk media, SJ bid now is almost a match with £4.8bn plus £0.8bn for club investment and £535m also available to play the debt.
Debt is not part of any bid, it’s only something that would have to deal with if the new owners take the club off the NYSE which SJ intends to do, this is something SJR does not have to do but it will assist him with Fan approval and conforming to new FFP and FSP rules.
We can now assume that SJ take it or leave it final offer of £5.6bn (£4.8bn) is his one before his actual final bid which will probably be next week as rumours start to become rife that SJR is entering into an exclusivity period then SJ will offer £5.8bn plus £0.8bn plus the debt and it will be repackaged as a £7bn world record bid.
For the record the bids right now look incredibly even matched with SJR still having his nose infront but only marginally because of his desire to get in bed with Joel and Avram. The £4.8bn for 100% is twice the £2.4bn for 51% now we’ve clarified dollars and not sterling.
Why?
I don't think anyone has been able to provide any evidence in any of the 1300 pages that Jassim has the net worth or financial resources to support a cash bid of this magnitude.
That’s actually awful and the clearest red flag but strangely something many are willing to ignore or try and make excuses for.
@sglowrider posted a great article about how Ratcliff INEOS football & cycling ventures are mostly flops.
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