Doesn’t make sense to remain as a minority owner as the new owner can keep on diluting their stake by bringing in money and keep issuing shares. Unless United’s valuation will treble over the next few years which is not going to happen.
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They think the shares will be worth more in the future. Or they have done a deal with SJR to somehow get more. Or they are trying to screw more from Qatar. Who knows.
I touched on the idea of new tech monetisation of football in the future, but overlooked the fact that should such technology really come, people won't give a toss about a little ball game when they're locked into the metaverse.
VR match attendance will be a thing in the not too distant future
The parasites won’t clear the credit balances, that would imply that they put money into United which has never happened. There are payments coming into the club shortly (tv money etc.) which will be used to clear the credit card ready to use it again for transfers.
SWP was anti-EU. Tony Benn called it a 'bosses club' and he was right. The SWP was against it and writers like John Pilger condemned it. I'm old Labour to the core and I stand by what the comrades in the SWP wrote about Brexit and the EU at the time of the vote. Anyway, this is getting way off topic, but of you're interested: https://socialistworker.co.uk/what-...union-is-a-bosses-club-and-can-t-be-reformed/
Realistically, is it fair to say this deal isn't going to get done in time for a proper transfer window, and the Glazers won't want to spend in it if they are on the way out as owners?
Meaning we are going to have a summer of limbo.
Meaning we are going to have a summer of limbo.
Yeah, we're a bit fecked in the short term.
I guess that makes sense. Why would any major businessman want to be a minority shareholder then?
Sure would be a risky business. The football bubble could burst just as easily as the club doubling it's value in the next decade. Still the interest they could earn on a billion each over the next decade would probably be greater than any future sales dividends they could rake in and as it would be relatively risk free, makes me inclined to agree with @glazed that they're playing Russian roulette with the Qataris.
But why would the majority owner of any company deliberately dilute the share price of a company they own ? If anything, it would be in their interest to make the price go up, and likewise, if the two Glazer brothers were to remain, they would want it as well.
Money talks as they say. I dont see why not if it gets done in the next 4-6 weeks. Ratcliffe (and I assume Qatar are the same) want to take over as soon as the hand his shaken on the real. I think both would be pretty ill prepared if they didnt have an immediate vision for when they take over.
Perhaps. Just a mate was telling me.
Im quite surprised that a lot of people don't want Ratcliffe because of he was pro Brexit.
I thought England was mad for Brexit yet everyone on here seems to be a remainer.
He moved his assets/residency to Monaco as well. So much for all the "boyhood Man United" fan from Failsworth despite having a season ticket for Chelsea and tweaking for them last year. Its a shame we'll end up with the rat but hey, we have no control over it so no point getting too down over it. Pretty apt that he has rat in his name as well tbh
The only thing I'm sure of it that it's not because they care about football.
Once its agreed do they not have to go through the 'League owners and Directors' test, which could hold things up until they look into it and approve though?
I imagine if it is Ratcliffe, that would be fairly straight forward. Him and his team have been involved in the game for years now, and he's got a British passport.
You continue to not actually respond to what is written. No one is talking about Brexits ‘final accounts’ but ok. . .
As someone whose business involves import & export from/to the EU & as any quick google search will attest, the impacts of Brexit were felt pretty immediately.
The pound plummeted to a generational low in the immediacy of the vote, & has never recovered. Another immediate impact.
Brexit is not a short term or a long term thing explicitly so if it takes a person 20-30 years to realise your buying power is less today than it was before the vote then said person isn’t just loveless but bloody clueless.
I find it startling you’re talking about something 20-30 years into the future when actual impacts i. the short term could be discussed. It’s almost as if you’re having a discussion in bad faith. . .
The irony. You’re labelling me for doing something I categorically haven’t.
Make sure you don’t say posters are calling people things when they are not again.
I didn’t read the rest, move on.
This weekend is probably the most important since the Glazer’s announcement of putting the club for sale/investment.
Why? Are we going to know tomorrow? I'm not following this as closely of course.
This is going to drag on for a while yet.
Not hard to do with that one in this threadSeems I've struck a chord.
Well, INEOS's bid is favoured with the hope of confirmation by next week, as INEOS's valuation is higher since the second round. However, the Qataris are wanting to make a last-ditch effort for a higher counterbid to win; this is most likely happing this weekend.
I think the Qataris may offer Joel and Avram a route to stay if they had always wanted to stay.
Mail saying neither Ratcliffe or Jassim know what is going on.
No surprise. Glazers shithousing it to the bitter end.
Irony lost on the mail it seems.
I heard all the 'info' is being leaked by an INEOS lawyer.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...assim-Qatar-DARK-Glazers-sale-Man-United.html
Who could blame the Glazers. They are business men, they are not stupid. But as long as it drags on it seems like it could be a strategy to optimize the bids a bit further.
Who could blame the Glazers. They are business men, they are not stupid. But as long as it drags on it seems like it could be a strategy to optimize the bids a bit further.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...assim-Qatar-DARK-Glazers-sale-Man-United.html
A clickbait story without any kind of real news from The Mail on Sunday. If I want to read speculation whose premise is that the Glazers want more money, there are many posts here that I can read.
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A right circus but what else would you expect from the Glazers. Determined to drag this out as long as possible until £6B is reached.
At this point, I wish SJ and SJR would just form a consortium and say here’s the single bid, take it or leave it.
At this point, I wish SJ and SJR would just form a consortium and say here’s the single bid, take it or leave it.
I always took this for granted. Seems so obvious to me.
Strange that this is the mail and it's not Mike Keegan writing it, would've thought he'd have something to say by now
Presumably the Glazers share the same confusion the rest of us have with how willing to be beaten the Qataris seem to be and are repeatedly trying to hint it's time they got serious if they're gonna.
It seems highly anecdotal because I also know of people going there as migrant workforce but not seeing such conditions. Again, not saying there aren't problems but problems are there is most countries. Labour exploitation is not specific to Qatar and that does not mean all migrants are exploited.
They wouldn't be diluting their shares because they will be the ones pumping in money. Unless they take out a rights issues with new shares for everyone to invest in. Moreover we know Glazers don't invest out of pocket, so they will be diluted for sure.
They could of course just tell them to pay or get bent.
Are they both infinitely better than Fred, Mctominay, Weghorst, Martial ?
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