If that's what the Glazers want then it means they have shared objectives, that the Glazers agree with what Ratcliffe says he wants to do. That makes Ratcliffe bad news for me.
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The Glazers would only stay if they think their ~19% of total shares will significantly appreciate over the next decade. Do you see that happening without success on the pitch, stadium redevelopment, etc?
Unfortunately it's doubtful. Do you see the Glazers paying for said team improvement, stadium redevelopment, etc? Also doubtful for me, and if they don't pay their share I don't see anyone else paying it for them. I would like to be wrong of course.
No it doesn't. it just means that two of them want a bigger payday down the road than they can get now. Whether that's the terms of Ratcliffe's bid (if the premium price to sell their shares within 2 years is true), or by the increased value of the club.
Of course not, but they won't be in a position to make those decisions if they accept Ineos' bid.
They don't have to pay for it. I'm not sure where you're coming from here.
I wanted a 1 litre Ford Fiesta as my first car. Then, I got the chance to buy a 3.2 litre BMW M3.
I bought the BMW M3.
Can happen organically if the prem continues to grow, and United don’t fall away from top 4 for too long.
Your post proves my point entirely. Flexible & open-minded are 2 things people are lacking in regards to all parties in this bidding process.
Tell you what’s better than 2 Glazers with no input but a financial stake in any future successes, no Glazers at all. If the shares are so meaningless after the proposed SJR/Ineos takeover then why bother having them? Because they are simply worthless, that family stand to profit off us for years to come & it stinks.
If it was the only way then yes but it’s far from it, the Glazers can’t afford the club anymore, they’re not doing SJR a favour.
For your first car? The insurance payments must have been
I'm saying if the Glazers won't invest in the team and infrastructure then neither will Ratcliffe. He's not going to pay if they're not. They will all plan to limp along hoping for top four and as AP says above hope to gain from the whole prem growing. I hope for more than that.
You do realise the Qataris are said to be quite close with Avram and Joel now, right? So much so that they are in talks to do business deals together in the middle East.
This whole 'Ratcliffe is the enemy and the Qataris are the saviour' charade is getting old very quickly. It's so one sided and not even remotely accurate of the situation.
Yeah, that doesn't make much sense to me unless you have something very specific and borderline paranoid in mind, like an imminent Super League (highly unlikely: in that event, the Glazers wouldn't be interested in selling in the first place). In general, the only way United's value is likely to grow significantly over the next few years is one that involves at least some (if not all) of the things fans want to see: better results, not letting the infrastructure rot, etc.
If Avram and Joel stick around as shareholders to see their stake become more valuable as a result of the new owners doing a good job, then...yes what?
And still a minority and still entitled to squat until they sell their share. The ROI is to sell when the price is high.
That's a weird and honestly nonsensical argument to make. If the Glazers want to stay on as shareholders with any owner does that make all potential owners bad news?
Anybody bidding for the club is going to be close to the Glazers. That's how business works. The two sides swap money and/or other incentives to make the deal happen.
People calling Jassim a nobody is fine I guess but they are forgetting HBJ is co-sponsoring his bid and he is a very astute and experienced businessman.
For your first car? The insurance payments must have been
Luckily I was a named driver for a few years before the purchase, and got some NCB's.
But to the posters point, you may want one thing originally, but if something better comes along, you won't look over the "better" option.
Word. Seriously hoping for Ratcliffe to be our majority shareholder.
He also used his business experience to help transfer funds to an Al Qaeda affiliate but that's neither here nor there. Ben Jacobs, who admittedly isn't very reliable, said the other day that HBJ wasn't providing any funding and he has previously said he doesn't like the bid which doesn't sound like co-sponsoring.
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Just those that are happy to be joint owners with them.
I agree with you on most of the points you make, fans wanted Jim to buy United and were backing him up, but the problem I have with this is that from reports (from my understanding) he will keep the Glazers in even if it's minority share that's a slap on the face for the fans protesting all these years to get rid of them. Regarding Qatar needing this to clean there Human rights this is getting old argument every freaking country has a human rights concern from Europeans, Asians, Arabs, African ect.. if Jim buys Manchester United and throws the Glazers out I will be behind him I don't care who is successful in the bid we just need to throw out the people that have been killing us all these years.
When was this? Interesting, I hadn't seen that.
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Maybe I’m missing something but the Glazers aren’t in a position of power, this isn’t some hostile takeover they’ve gone public asking for a handout. If SJR & Qatar were to pull their buds, what realistic options would they have? The credit card is maxed & there was a poster earlier on in this thread that was explaining to me how refinancing isn’t feasible.
Yeah that could well happen
All the people freaking out because the Glazers retaining a minority share. Can you please advise how it will affect you? I know we all hate them but once another shareholder holds 50.01% of the club they lose all control. That’s the end of the Glazer era. This full sale only stuff is just silly.
That's a very simplistic and odd take. Obviously, INEOS wants to purchase all of their shares as they have already made a bid. This is an alternative that would still allow them to have control of the club. To pretend they are in cahoots with the Glazers doesn't make much sense, but it seems you want to hold steadfast to this position despite the facts.
Goldbridge is just a meme who gets off on causing toxicity and negativity because means more views
The aroma of oil money has people inventing alternate realities.
Good man yourself.
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That's a screenshot from 3 months ago, a lot of things have been reported as fact and then the opposite has been reported. That's not a confirmation to my mind ((albeit it could be true, it doesn't change much given it's a state bid either way) when I've literally posted a tweet by a journalist this week that claims the opposite.It's in the video when he did the interview with David Rubenstien
No it categorically doesn’t. Nobody give a flying feck what the Hlazers think, especially Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
Literally what I just said however one is being portrayed as a new Glazer and the other isn't.
I wouldn't even rule out Qatar matching Sir Jim's bid as yet either and letting the Glazers remain as minority shareholders. All they need is a majority. Why would they care if they don't hold all 100% given profits seems to not be their main goal in all this. It's PR and Marketing for their home country.
Presumably they will want to take the club private.
You need to look up the definition of minority shareholder. The Glazers wouldn’t be required to spend a penny.
E-reds who signed up for years of glory and are instead watching city win everything so have a can’t beat em join em attitude and crave the oil money.
Bloomberg is infinitely more solid than Jacobs.
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