I do love how many leaks are coming out when everyone is supposedly under NDA's... I know they do happen, but still. Everything is so conflicting
Club Sale | It’s done!
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It's almost like they are guessing isn't it
And over half the British electorate were 'Brexiteers' back in 2016, and Qatar's entire wealth derives from fossil fuels.
At least we'll be champions of the moral high ground
If jassim wasn't ready to significantly up the bid then he should have pulled out. That would have allowed SJR to lowball the rats and the money spared would have been invested in the club
Yes, they're all cnuts
I see people are taking the INEOS news well:
The Glazer family has 10 times the voting power. You'd need to own a lot of the club before you outmuscle them
If only there was a 3rd bid, I'm not convinced by either Qatar or SJR.
Doom mongers like myself and every single news report in the last week
But sure whatever
It would sort of be funny if Jassim has pump faked Ratcliffe into overspending by a billion
I few thoughts
If you were Joel and Avram Glazer would you trust SJR as a business man and let him have some sorts of control of the majority of your wealth?
Just a quick google search tells you that this man has a history of lies, broken promises and shady business decisions. Not to mention his in political involvement. I’m 100% sure that the Glazers has done their due diligence on this man.
What would you prefer in todays unstable economical times? Cash on the table or a minority stake in a closed envelope locked in a complicated ownership without having any saying on key decisions?
The Glazer siblings are both 50 year+ and with that comes some sorts of financial maturity and for most of us an unwillingness to gamble with our wealth too much. The opportunity to cash in $1B to your own bank account in one single deal don’t come often.
From what I can understand all parties in this sale process is still restricted by a NDA. My bet is still that the NTF with SJ is the preferred buyer and I base that solely on my experience and common logical sense.
If you were Joel and Avram Glazer would you trust SJR as a business man and let him have some sorts of control of the majority of your wealth?
Just a quick google search tells you that this man has a history of lies, broken promises and shady business decisions. Not to mention his in political involvement. I’m 100% sure that the Glazers has done their due diligence on this man.
What would you prefer in todays unstable economical times? Cash on the table or a minority stake in a closed envelope locked in a complicated ownership without having any saying on key decisions?
The Glazer siblings are both 50 year+ and with that comes some sorts of financial maturity and for most of us an unwillingness to gamble with our wealth too much. The opportunity to cash in $1B to your own bank account in one single deal don’t come often.
From what I can understand all parties in this sale process is still restricted by a NDA. My bet is still that the NTF with SJ is the preferred buyer and I base that solely on my experience and common logical sense.
It's funny until you realise we're payingIt would sort of be funny if Jassim has pump faked Ratcliffe into overspending by a billion
Well yeah i'd say most of it is guesswork. Reminds me of the whole "SJR and SJ bids are in, confirmed" and then a few hours later, no confirmed bid and they've got an extension. Pure guesswork by the lot of themIt's almost like they are guessing isn't it
The Tampa Bay Bucaneers will be sold by Avram and Joel, who will then repurchase the shares from Sir Jim.
And? I’m pro Ratcliffe. It’s my favoured bid of the options. I’m not going to twerk for him though. He’s in all likelihood a colossal cnut. A cnut who owns a company doing shit tons of damage to the planet. However, because unlike some very noisy people in this thread I don’t believe a football club is defined by who owns it I can keep supporting the club whilst acknowledging its owner is a cnut. Just like I’ve done my entire life.And over half the British electorate were 'Brexiteers' back in 2016, and Qatar's entire wealth derives from fossil fuels.
Bring back the silly Finnish bloke!
I see people are taking the INEOS news well:
They are right. Having Ratcliff here will be pretty much Glazers 2.0.
Well apparently Jassim doesn't have the cash to get us in the first place.
SJR can be a standard wealthy owner, just operate the club smartly. We don't need Qatar money. We just need smart management. Invest in infrastructure over time, no need to rush it. Operate the football side with intelligence rather than throw money in the trash like we have the past decade. Glazers might stay short term, eh, whatever. They are minority shareholders, not decision makers, not in control. SJR will just buy them out over time which is fine too.
Avoiding being a state run, play thing for some Qatari prince is a win for me. Keeps our morals intact. Winning fairly, working your way up without resorting to turning on the infinite money switch also makes it much sweeter. Not like we have any disadvantage, we are still among the richest in the world and will have a super rich owner. This is a very good scenario for us and hugely improved over the past 20 years.
I heard the Glazers are bringing Kendall Roy in to get the best deal.
I see people are taking the INEOS news well:
Or how about don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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Glazers would reject and just take investment from Elliot instead
Amen.
No wonder they're making him prove he's got the cash:
They are under investigation for fraud, they are no longer a factor in this
That was their 3rd and final take it or leave it bid. If it’s not good enough they are done here.
Met Brian Cox actually at a book signing few months ago. He said he was a United fan and mates with "Alex".
Where'd you hear that, Friendster?
Good man.
We’re signing Aaron Ramsey!
(Or something, probably)If you think that Elliott will be throwing money away then think again
So.. bad news then?
Which one?We’re signing Aaron Ramsey!
Or Carlyle then. Raine could easily find investors looking to take a minority stake
Carlyle and Qatar have very close links/business ties. Unlikely to go up against them
Minority investment is not an option currently
Ownership matters though.
I just hate the false equivalency drawn between the two bidders.
I wouldn't trust SJR but keep in mind that these Glazers don't actually need money, you don't need 1 billion to leave lavishly especially when you are not that young, you don't have to spend that much to finance your life. The billions are only interesting when it comes to business and having collaterals or if you want to brag about being a billionaire. Now for the same reason hundreds of billionaires around the world have their assets linked to a sport entity, these may just like the idea of being part of United and it may be worth several hundreds of millions to them.
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