Alexis Sanchez would have fulfilled that criteria though.
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Alexis Sanchez would have fulfilled that criteria though.
Sounds a bit too specific, especially Premier League proven. You'll be paying top dollar to lure them away.
He wouldn't. He was like 29 when we bought him and had already shown signs of decline at Arsenal.
Ross Barkley
Dele Alli
They're two that would've come under the criteria. I really doubt they'll only sign PL proven players though.
I'm extremely sceptical. I think the start they've had is an uncanny Glazer impression, dithering on decisions and being unable to think outside of the box with regards to recruitment. Could we have not found a good alternative to Ashworth who could have started work sooner?
Such as?
These are long-term appointments for long-term strategy and we are chasing the apparent best in class who don't tend to be unemployed. I imagine if we went to our 2nd choice or 3rd they would also be under employment. Despite Newcastle trying to dig their heels in, the club seem confident they'll win out.
PL proven. So nobody from outside the PL then
We'd get ridden on the fees then espeically if they're English
PL proven has to be without a doubt bollocks, because if INEOS want to not be spending a fortune all the time, looking abroad at lesser known talents will obviously be cheaper.
It kind of explains the Mount purchase.
I can see the club going for Evan Ferguson at some point in the near future. In fact I’d be shocked if they don’t.
I doubt it's an absolute must that they need to be PL proven because we've linked with players like Todibo. But I don't personally disagree with targeting PL players, there's a lot of talent in the league and I would take the likes of Olise, Branthwaite (for the right price) and Tosin in a heartbeat.
I like that everybody are now allowed to present their own predictions of the United transfer strategy under Ineos. Here’s mine:
- leading staff: only English nationals with Monaco adresses, on Directors salaries payable to Swiss banks.
- other administrative staff: only English pensioners on minimum wages (all five - the rest is outsourced to Indonesian and Chinese child labourers).
- players: only illegal immigrants drafted through the feeder club in Calais into a kafala system, living in the new barracks on the renovated CarringtonComplex.
- women players: family members of the Ratcliffe/Brailsford/Ashworth/Wilcox families will ‘man’ the positions on a charity basis.
- leading staff: only English nationals with Monaco adresses, on Directors salaries payable to Swiss banks.
- other administrative staff: only English pensioners on minimum wages (all five - the rest is outsourced to Indonesian and Chinese child labourers).
- players: only illegal immigrants drafted through the feeder club in Calais into a kafala system, living in the new barracks on the renovated CarringtonComplex.
- women players: family members of the Ratcliffe/Brailsford/Ashworth/Wilcox families will ‘man’ the positions on a charity basis.
Its the best way. Say you are going to work and then get a sick note. Nobody said he wasnt smart.
"Do as I say, not as I do"
It's just too much talk about how they're going to do things. Every week there seems to be a plan on how to approach X and Y and whatever. I am inhhrently skeptical of organisations that talk too much about principles and values and plans and expectations blabla. There is also an uncomfortable vibe of populism around SJM. We still won under the Glazers and Liverpool won despire their owners in my opinion so there is nothing to say we can't succeed when they're around. I just don't think it will be because of them.
My new long term strategy - just don't get injured = profit.
They don’t talk much, do they. Unless you think every tabloid hack or twitter handle is a representative of Ineos?
I mean all we have seen from them is talk. We want to do things x, y, z. Yes they have made structural changes but nothing has changed.
Look at the way Ten Hag has been handled, whether you want him to stay or sacked, its pure disrespect, which is how it was under the Glazers.
Do you think we will get more value signings? quicker deals? Look how long its taking to decide on the manager, over 6 months.
Glazers based managerial based on game by game which was why Ole, Jose and the like were facing the sack after every few bad results, the same has been with Ten Hag.
I don't get where the disrespect comes. Every single manager at every single comparably sized club would be under the same or far more pressure given the same set of circumstances. I don't think there's a single club in Europe where he still would be in a job
Have they figured out that United and Nice can't both participate in the Europa?
Nothing ever does for small clubs mate. One rule for us and different for them.But nothing has been said about Girona and City
The disrespect is not sacking him. The disrespect is to conduct our business by sounding out other managers and allowing leaks that he will be sacked and we're almost a week in and still none the wiser. If you don't believe he is the right man, just sack him. There might be some who will disagree but no one can be outraged. If you believe he is the right man, back him. How could they be around for this long and be still undecided? That's disrespectful to him and to the fans and can only be attributed to incompetence.
Yes but I’m sure someone said the other day on here that you need to own 30% of the club for it not to be allowed. They only own 27% of ours.
Interesting.
No, I don't. I believe that the stuff about conducting reviews and principles and plans that get reported by more than one reputable media outlet is a leak or a brief from the club. In either case, it's a mark of looking for good publicity like Ed Woodward did or a sign of not being capable of conducting your business in private as the best organisations do.
Mate the structure isn’t even in place. We have a temporary CEO and no sporting director. You seem to be implying that you want Jim to make a decision on the manager, which would make us about as well run as Chelsea.
We’re not even two full working days on from the cup final, literally no benefit would have been seen from sacking him in that time.
Heads are going to fall off if we keep him for another year
You said it. The disrespect is that, he should be told he is sacked by now, if you feel that he cant remain in the job.
I mean you might not think there is a club but Arteta finished 8th twice and remained in his job.
Are all our office personnel on minimum wage? I doubt that.
Are they all absolutely necessary? I doubt that too.
Furthermore I have seen absolutely no blame attributed to the rank and file employees for anything, only that we are a bloated and over staffed organisation. No problem with INEOS thinning out and improving efficiency.
Absoliutely afree here. I am personally for him to do one more term with a full squad but get where others lie too. However as you say holding back is disrespect
There's planty of "plans" but how many of them actually came from INEOS? A large chunk of what has come out is pure speculation for the most part
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Mate the structure isn’t even in place. We have a temporary CEO and no sporting director. You seem to be implying that you want Jim to make a decision on the manager, which would make us about as well run as Chelsea.
We’re not even two full working days on from the cup final, literally no benefit would have been seen from sacking him in that time.
Heads are going to fall off if we keep him for another year
Right, so we wait till Barrada is in place which is July 11th or 13th? and we wait till Ashworth is in place, no date on that.
So the earliest he gets sacked is 13th July according you you as we dont have a structure. So then give 2 weeks to get a new manager in, leads us to end of July where we have had a pre season without a manager or a manager that is about to get sacked?
That is my issue, if we wait till the structure in place, its too late to sack Ten Hag. So are you saying we wont sign anyone this summer either cause there is no structure?
I think we have different perceptions on how the media work. I think when there is this much reporting from different outlets that sound the same, that screams a leak or a brief. It's not always accurate, but someone out there want it be reported for whatever agenda. I might be wrong but when I look back on the initial PR campaign SJR went on at the time of the takeover and how all his talk mirrored a populist politician to speak the fan's language. It fits with that narrative what we've seen reported afterwards.
I'm extremely left wing and pretty militant in my union, but I do acknowledge that football clubs have to be run differently to normal businesses and these kind of cuts are performance related, not just to line shareholders pockets (directly, anyway).
My objection to this is the constructive dismissal element. If the workforce is bloated don't make working conditions worse to force people to quit... just offer them redundancy like a normal company. Sure it will cost more but it's the right thing to do. We all criticised Liverpool for collecting furlough but by not paying statutory redundancy you're still taking money out of the hands of people who need it more than you.
It’s reported last night that this is exactly what has been done. Staff are expected back in the office on the 1st and anybody who doesn’t want to can volunteer for redundancy and get their payout.
This doesn't make sense as the manager doesn't negotiate fees.
The hilarious reality was that United told staff they were about to be furloughed until they saw the backlash Spurs and Liverpool got, then they backtracked.
I dont understand that quote tbh.
Its pointless information really.
You came and promised to fight for titles, there is clear evidence of the last 10 years from Arsenal Liverpool City, that to compete you have to spend big.
Also on top of that hire the people who can sell well, its his job to make sure the manager has the tools to be able to compete and not pick 18 year olds from the academy.
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