City Transfers This Summer

I don't know if you are right or not. I kind of hope you are though, because if so surely their new dynasty will not last for long.

Let's just say they do decide not to worry about the FFP, and let's just assume that the FFP will not prove to be ultimately toothless. Surely getting booted out of Europe until they comply will have a massive effect on the players they can attract regardless of the salaries they pay?

We're all wondering if they are quietly confident of being able to glad-hand their way around FFP. AKA they've been paying off all the right people and given assurances it wouldn't be a problem when the time comes.

Then the stadium naming rights deal happened, which made you think there was a chance they weren't that confident. On the surface that deal made it seem like they weren't. Although it's still possible they've been told to "at least try and make it look like you're trying."

Fast forward to yesterday, and dumping players on a loss like you mused about earlier is a very real option now. City's main priority from a business standpoint was not winning but buying legitimacy. As quickly as possible. Legitimacy was the only thing that would give them the option of saying: come be a role player for a top-tier team. On normal wages. Which would probably mean backing such a new policy up by paying the Adebayors et al to leave.

Again, who knows what's going on. But winning the title makes dumping those players on a loss a viable option because the club can now 'take the high road' when talking to potential playing staff.
 
They will sign three class players imo.


Three that we will all be very jealous of. Oh well.
 
Hazard is a certainty.

If Alves is to leave Barcelona (is it confirmed yet, or just speculation at this point?) there is only one team he will move to...

Thiago Silva would be an interesting one, woe betide the league if he beds in with Kompany and finds his top form.
 
Question: Are football contracts guaranteed? They are in US baseball and basketball.

I'm curious if City have to offload players, cannot get the fees desired/gaining club refuse to match wages/pay anywhere near current wage, can they just release the player without further payment, i.e. the player becomes a free agent.

United did that with Barthez and Bosnich which allowed said player to sign with another club without any fee paid. And I believe Bosnich conned Chelsea into a nice signing fee. Barthez was given a pay-out for his release I recall, which was negotiated as Marseille were not picking up his "high wages" in excess of 40k per week.

If no guaranteed contract, City could effectively offer the player a pay-off, and thus allow the player to become a free agent. This would allow the player to seek employment elsewhere with no transfer fee involved, and possibly gain a signing-fee from the new club in lieu of reduced wages and no transfer fee.

All depends on what fee City ask and if the inquiring club are willing to pay the fee and what wages. Unless the player has a professional desire to compete, he will be reluctant to leave millions in wages on the table without the new club offering similar/very close wages and/or a signing-fee.

Thoughts?
 
Tevez
Dzeko
Balotelli (though Mancini seems to have a weakness there)
Kolarov
Johnson
maybe Kolo Toure

The only one of them that i can see staying in the PL is Johnson. The rest would want way more money than even the top teams could pay. I suppose someone might try and get Dzeko on loan but it would be highly unlikely.
 
David Cameron would be a horrible signing for them.

they really should be looking to by Merkel... or better yet Obama
 
Question: Are football contracts guaranteed? They are in US baseball and basketball.

I'm curious if City have to offload players, cannot get the fees desired/gaining club refuse to match wages/pay anywhere near current wage, can they just release the player without further payment, i.e. the player becomes a free agent.

United did that with Barthez and Bosnich which allowed said player to sign with another club without any fee paid. And I believe Bosnich conned Chelsea into a nice signing fee. Barthez was given a pay-out for his release I recall, which was negotiated as Marseille were not picking up his "high wages" in excess of 40k per week.

If no guaranteed contract, City could effectively offer the player a pay-off, and thus allow the player to become a free agent. This would allow the player to seek employment elsewhere with no transfer fee involved, and possibly gain a signing-fee from the new club in lieu of reduced wages and no transfer fee.

All depends on what fee City ask and if the inquiring club are willing to pay the fee and what wages. Unless the player has a professional desire to compete, he will be reluctant to leave millions in wages on the table without the new club offering similar/very close wages and/or a signing-fee.

Thoughts?

Even if that were possible (and I'm not saying it isn't) it will cost City money to do that, and they won't make any money back which tips them even further into the red. That loss can't possibly be balanced just by a drop in wage bill.

The real question is whether they are going to try to comply with the FFP. If they are then I don't see how they can possibly signs Alves, Silva and Hazard as suggested without selling (not releasing) an equivalent value of playing staff.
 
MrMarcello, they could of course cancel a contract if the player agrees to whatever conditions. But I think it would make more sense to demand a lower fee and at least gain something.
 
Do you all remember when Chelsea signed Shevchenko, Ballack and Ashley Cole prior to 06/07 having won the league the previous season?

How did that go for them?
 
Ian McGarry is spouting some typical Sun speculation on the BEEB right now. Van Persie has verbally agreed a £225k a week deal to leave Arsenal in his pursuit of medals.
 
I think the following players are probably on their way out of City this summer whether they win the title or not today:

Tevez
Dzeko
Balotelli (though Mancini seems to have a weakness there)
Kolarov
Johnson
maybe Kolo Toure

Any others?

Are they going to be able to demand top prices for them? If Arsene Wenger's comments regarding a summer of austerity for Arsenal have any grounding in reality then they may find it hard to move these players on, as other managers will probably feel the same way. Who is going to meet City's valuation for Tevez and pay his wages for example? Same story with Dzeko.

I think this summer may be the last summer for big spending for a while, with the FFP coming into play. It is assumed that City will strengthen further, but will they be able to? Surely, if they don't move some of these on then they are not going to be in a position to buy any other big names, and that must be their plan with Europe being next in their sights. If Chelsea don't win the Champions League then that will be one of the few clubs with financial clout largely taken out of the market - they will struggle to attract top names this season. That leaves very few clubs who can pay what City will want.

It's going to be an interesting summer.

They will find it hard to get those kind of players off the books. The only chance Tevez, Dzeko or Johnson would leave is if they take a big pay cut.
 
RVP will not go to City, I'll even bet on it. ;)

Waste of money, the wages he will demand and transfer fee, not worth it imo. Would rather Cavani who could be probably bought for half the price. Bad move by the club, I personally don't think it will happen anyway.

:lol:
 
I think they will go for Hazard to be honest. It really depends on who leaves and what way Mancini plans to play next season, but he seems like a likely transfer to be honest.

I'm not sure about Van Persie. I think they would have went for him if Tevez was leaving, but it looks like he'll probably end up staying now, so I think he'll stay put at Arsenal for now at least.

A new centre back looks likely. The question is just whether it's one as backup to Lescott and Kompany, or a world class one to play alongside Kompany. I get the feeling it may be backup only because Lescott has had a very good season.
 
RVP
Hazard
Martinez
Thiao Silva

Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Adebayor, Johnson, Kolo Toure all out.
 
The shear amount of money City can throw at their purchases is beyond a 'shed load' more like a 'warehouse full'. The daft offer they put in for Kaka is an example of that. The £500,000 they lose each day seemingly is like pocket money.

I just hope they don't go into cynical blocking tactics where they buy just to block our squad development...
 
IT will be really interesting to see how City does make out trying to sell some players, they have had some problems doing so mainly do to the high wages they are paying and the high transfer fees they want. They may have to absorb some losses here.
 
Real Madrid & Barcelona are Man City's benchmark


Manchester City will emulate Spanish giants Real Madrid and Barcelona this summer by spending heavily to target Champions League success, boss Roberto Mancini has promised fans.

Mancini told BBC Sport: "Barcelona and Real Madrid every year buy two or three players and spend a lot of money.
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Roberto Mancini

"I think for Manchester City it will be the same.

"We need to improve. We need to have the strength to play Champions League and Premier League."
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He added: "For this we need to have a good team, a strong team with a good mentality, but I'm sure we will do it."

Real Madrid and Barcelona have spent an estimated total of £105m each, over the last two seasons, to recruit players.

Barcelona bought David Villa for £34.2m in the summer of 2010 while, 12 months later, they spent a similar amount on signing Cesc Fabregas.

Madrid's big outlay followed their 2009 spending spree, which included bringing in the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo (£80m), Kaka and Karim Benzema for a combined total of more than £170m.

City have the spending power to match the Spanish giants and, as Mancini plans an assault on European glory, he is pleased with how his side have dealt with the pressures of the Premier League this season.

He says City - top-flight champions for the first time since 1968 - are worthy winners of the title, pointing out that, unlike close rivals Manchester United, they were never beaten heavily by anyone.

"We lost 1-0, 1-0, 1-0 - always games we could win," he said. "Manchester United lost 3-0 to Newcastle and 6-1 against us, but we never had a game like this.

"Against United in the FA Cup, when we lost 3-2 at home, in the second half [it was] 11 players against 10, but we had three or four chances and they did not have any."

Noting also that City had beaten their neighbours home and away in the league, he added: "We worked very hard. We deserved to win this."

And he says that, even when City fell eight points behind leaders United with just six games remaining, from which point on he repeatedly insisted in public that the title race was over, he never entirely lost hope.

"After [losing to] Arsenal, I thought it was going to be difficult - but I thought it was impossible that United were going to continue to win," he said.

In an exclusive BBC interview, the 47-year-old reflects on a title-winning season not without its share of troubles, but insists his relationship with strikers Carlos Tevez and Mario Balotelli remains good.

Tevez, 28, did not play for City for six months after Mancini claimed he failed to warm-up in the 2-1 defeat at Bayern Munich in September, while Balotelli was sent-off twice during the course of the season.

"It's not difficult to manage Tevez," he said. "He's a good guy. We had a good relationship always.

"I don't know why we had that situation in September but in the end he's a good guy and a fantastic player."

He also believes the Argentine's return to the team for the title run-in, after an unauthorised absence in Argentina, had helped tip the title race in City's favour.

"No question he made a difference. Carlos is an incredible, top player," he said.

For Italian striker Balotelli, his countryman has words of caution.

"Mario is different, he's young, but an incredible talent," Mancini said.

"He's young, and for this reason sometimes he can have bad behaviour - it's normal. But it's important for him to understand he can lose his talent.

"He can play football for another 10 or 12 years. I hope that now, after this title, he can understand that it's better that he starts to work in a good way."

And of Sunday's dramatic ending to the season, he joked: "I'm 47 - after the game, 97!"
 
Yaya Toure's agent Dimitri Seluk: "He has done all he could do at City and he needs new motivations. Toure would like a new challenge."

Nice. Here's hoping he puts in a transfer request.
 
Where's he going to go that pays anywhere near what City will?

Also another scenario possible is that he gets a nice and handy pay rise at City and as a result claims that they are the club of his childhood and dreams and yada yada.... "also rejected United"
 
Who's to say he's after the money, he's been on astronomical pay the last few years and maybe now he wants to go somewhere he actually wants to be.
 
Not at all surprised with the Toure news. Said on the previous page that I expect him and Aguero to be out of City within 2-3 years and I stick to that. Toure has been talking about wanting to go back to barca as well but I don't see where he'll fit in. However, he could be brilliant at Madrid.
 
They'll buy every good, promising or expensive player in the world currently playing, as far as I can tell from reading the Caf. And they'll maybe sign some great players from the past too.
 
Wasn't Yaya just saying to the press he wants world domination with City? And City haven't won the champions league (yet). Still plenty of challenges there for him, I don't think he wants to leave.
 
The challenge, if his agent chooses to accept it, is to get him a large bump on his contract.
 
Would Llorente leave though? Maybe Bilbao but i think he'd be reluctant to leave unless it was Barca or Madrid.
 
For some reason I have such a confident feeling they'll sign RVP.

Oh and if Yaya wants a new challenge, how about helping us reclaiming the title from City? He's perhaps the perfect example of what our midfield needs.
 
For some reason I have such a confident feeling they'll sign RVP.

Oh and if Yaya wants a new challenge, how about helping us reclaiming the title from City? He's perhaps the perfect example of what our midfield needs.

:D

City's best player. Hope he leaves.