City/Haaland

Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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of course, you two are nowhere to be found discussing matters related to liverpool on a certain liverpool website, are you???</strong><hr></blockquote>

im mainly there to defend my own club ;)
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Originally posted by marchingontogether:
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I agree with you over 1 and 2 but I don't think Haaland should back away from a legal claim just because the other half of Manchester might not like the decision...RK did wrong that day and now faces the consequences of another act of his stupidity.</strong><hr></blockquote>

so you think this is worth the risk to take us back to the 80s hooligan wise?

therell be riots if city and alfie go ahead ...
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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i think keane is responsible for any trouble that erupts between fans of the two clubs...the incident was gone and forgotten before HE brought it back up. and anyways, don't you think the city boys could hold their own against your lot? i don't think they're quivering in fear of the prawn sandwich/day-tripper brigade...</strong><hr></blockquote>

You don't get it at all, do you..

No one is trying to deny Keano's fault in all this, but any action from Haaland and City, especially with the claims that have been suggested will only make it worse. Everyone knows that the trouble in Northern Ireland goes back to Britains occupation of it, but does that justify IRA's action?

And it's not about what group of supporters who can hold their own - again, you prove yourself to be a total idiot with those comments.
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>and slag off effenberg...

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i rather wanted to inform you on his decision ... ive got other forums where i can laugh at effenberg
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Originally posted by marchingontogether:
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I agree with you over 1 and 2 but I don't think Haaland should back away from a legal claim just because the other half of Manchester might not like the decision...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Even if they are unjustified?
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Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
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Well, put it this way then. If the expert medical opinion is totally wrong you can get 10 who are right and consequently the reputation of the one who is lying and paid will be gone and the jury won't listen. If it's clearly wrong it's not his qualified medical opinion and then it will be VERY easy to find neutral experts to put him down. So ultimately you will not find experts with high credibility that will say anything you want. Only medical experts with low credibility from starters will go down that path as they have nothing to lose.

This is really a no brainer if your argument for a win is that the doctor has to lie in court. The PR for city isn't exactly positive either if they drag some village idiot there to testify.</strong><hr></blockquote>


ahmed, it's all a game. for every expert man city put up there, your club will find one to counter him/her, and vice versa...at the end, it'll come down to the jury, who you seem to have a lot more confidence in than i.
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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from YAWN.co.uk

"I think you will find as Keane was in the employ of Manchester United and on their business at the time of the incient, there will be some liability on their part.
For instance if you were chinned for no apparent reason, (other than you were a united supporter ) by a security guard while you were shopping in Tescos and that guard was on duty and in the employ of that company you would sue them both. They would be responsible for the actions of their staff....cheers"</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> , good explanation. First thing you have said that made any sense, un-surpisingly it was a copy and paste job.
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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of course, you two are nowhere to be found discussing matters related to liverpool on a certain liverpool website, are you???</strong><hr></blockquote>


I am, but I like to believe I manage to give a relatively objective view of things, without trying to champion corruption in the legal system, hooliganism, medical fantasy theories etc
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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You don't get it at all, do you..

No one is trying to deny Keano's fault in all this, but any action from Haaland and City, especially with the claims that have been suggested will only make it worse. Everyone knows that the trouble in Northern Ireland goes back to Britains occupation of it, but does that justify IRA's action?

And it's not about what group of supporters who can hold their own - again, you prove yourself to be a total idiot with those comments.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i don't think parallels can be drawn between man city and the IRA! i see your point though, i think i may have misunderstood your comments. it sounded like you meant man city should be afraid of your club...but, in the overall scheme of things, man city's will have done nothing wrong in exploring their legal actions, while roy keane was definitely wrong in his actions (which i'm glad to see you admit).
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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ahmed, it's all a game. for every expert man city put up there, your club will find one to counter him/her, and vice versa...at the end, it'll come down to the jury, who you seem to have a lot more confidence in than i.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, think this whole affair will cost city more than the gain. They need the best solicitors they can get and will not get much back. There wasn't much damage caused that would generate a substantial fee, only a player i.e. one employee got hurt. The only gain I can see is that City would be able to drag the name of Manchester United in the mud which is not easy.
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well, according to reports, there's haaland's wages, the transfer fee + wages for a replacement, and monies lost due to relegation. that could be a nice little chunk of change...
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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I am, but I like to believe I manage to give a relatively objective view of things, without trying to champion corruption in the legal system, hooliganism, medical fantasy theories etc</strong><hr></blockquote>


lol...objective? jesus christ, you make it sound as if i am the devil incarnate!
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>well, according to reports, there's haaland's wages, the transfer fee for a replacement, and monies lost due to relegation. that could be a nice little chunk of change...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Such a loose case that I doubt United / Keane would have to compensate all this. And the money lost due to relegation is perhaps stretching it a bit <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> . Well, if you aim high you can always get something.
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>well, according to reports, there's haaland's wages, the transfer fee + wages for a replacement, and monies lost due to relegation. that could be a nice little chunk of change...</strong><hr></blockquote>

any jury who says city got relegated because of haalands injury is either pissed or bribed
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Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>i hope he takes his leg off this time ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

oh yeah, and i'm the evil one?
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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oh yeah, and i'm the evil one?</strong><hr></blockquote>

no, roy if you believe the papers ...

never said you were evil, i just think your arguments are a bit ridiculous
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look, odds are city will lose the case. but the point is, it'll be another distraction, something you hardly need right now...and when keane takes the stand, who knows what will happen???
 
so basically youre just happy someone drags our name into the mud?
 
yes, and i already admitted that. you guys were happy when middlesborough took us to court, i don't see why you expect us to feel different over this. roy keane has had this coming...
 
btw, someone should thank fergie on houllier's behalf for the rio ferdinand precedent. ged seems to be following his blueprint to tap up duff...
 
we didnt tap him up, rio left for first team football

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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>look, odds are city will lose the case. but the point is, it'll be another distraction, something you hardly need right now...and when keane takes the stand, who knows what will happen???</strong><hr></blockquote>

Distraction? If United is involved it will be the solicitors and not the team that will deal with this. Will probably not be a big deal. This is only a question of money so it's not a big deal and doubt anyone will lose sleep over it. It won't get worse than what it is now when every paper is talking about it, and it's not that bad
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>btw, someone should thank fergie on houllier's behalf for the rio ferdinand precedent. ged seems to be following his blueprint to tap up duff...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just goes to show who the master is in the tapping game. Fergie got Rio while all <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> has managed to do is prompt Duff to sign a new deal at Rovers. Besides, Duff would never betray his love for United and go to the dippers. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> ;)
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lol...yeah, i guess he was behind woodgate, matteo, mills, radabe, AND duberry in the pecking order. how he ever got a game is beyond me!
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
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Just goes to show who the master is in the tapping game. Fergie got Rio while all <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> has managed to do is prompt Duff to sign a new deal at Rovers. Besides, Duff would never betray his love for United and go to the dippers. <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

wanna bet?
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Originally posted by AhmedDimwitson:
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Distraction? If United is involved it will be the solicitors and not the team that will deal with this. Will probably not be a big deal. This is only a question of money so it's not a big deal and doubt anyone will lose sleep over it. It won't get worse than what it is now when every paper is talking about it, and it's not that bad</strong><hr></blockquote>

how about if city start calling on players to testify?
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Originally posted by usual_suspect:
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how about if city start calling on players to testify?</strong><hr></blockquote>

They will probably have to call their own players as well which can't be in their best interest. They are also in the middle of the season..This is really not a big deal. Do you think they need players when it's all on video and he has written a book ? :rolleyes: . He's not going to jail and this isn't a question of big sums either, anyone of our players would probably be able to pay whatever comes this way from their pocket money. This is really no big deal.
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how many of the current key man city players were playing in that game? compare that to all your players who could be potentially called to testify...i'm sure they'll ask about any comments keane might have made beforehand or after the incident...and you wouldn't want them to lie, would you?
 
Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>how many of the current key man city players were playing in that game? compare that to all your players who could be potentially called to testify...i'm sure they'll ask about any comments keane might have made beforehand or after the incident...and you wouldn't want them to lie, would you?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, I wouldn't. And why is it so interesting what they do in their spare time? If they go to the shop and buy a packet of Marlboro and take a coffee with the fag or spend half an hour in the court, what's the difference really and why would it affect the team <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> ?
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well, i guess everyone handles pressure differently. look at leeds...
 
Originally posted by usual_suspect:
<strong>well, i guess everyone handles pressure differently. look at leeds...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah, they blew up a story from nothing and had a mediocre team. Was just a good excuse for DOL to blame the trial for the lack of success.
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btw, reports tonight put the figure city/haaland are asking for @ £5M+...
 
Whether Keano is exonerated or not is hardly the point. This has the potential to drag on and on and become a massive, unwanted distraction to both Keane and the club. How it will impact Keane's psyche and (most importantly) his competitive demeanor on the field is hard to tell. Don't be surprised if Rio is captain by Christmas and Roy is on a leave of absence at the Priory.
 
Originally posted by wythykid:
<strong>Whether Keano is exonerated or not is hardly the point. This has the potential to drag on and on and become a massive, unwanted distraction to both Keane and the club. How it will impact Keane's psyche and (most importantly) his competitive demeanor on the field is hard to tell. Don't be surprised if Rio is captain by Christmas and Roy is on a leave of absence at the Priory.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Too true Keane is a fecking headcase :mad:
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"While Haaland's big problem is with his left knee, the Norwegian will argue the injury to his right knee caused by Keane led directly to those problems."

A quote from the sun, wouldn't it be easier to get by putting in lottery numbers. They can't win and unsurprisingly it's all in the papers through public releases before they have done
anything. Tragic attempts by a low profile player whose career is all but over to get some publicity and money and for city to tarnish Uniteds reputation which is obvious as they first brief the press before the lawyers.
 
From a soccernet article

The left knee that has caused him all his problems is not the one struck by Keane in April last year, but Haaland privately suspects that a weakness present in the joint was exacerbated by the sheer force of the studs-first challenge.

private suspicions are highly unlikely to win him a court case.
 
All they've done is turn up a bit of heat on local rivals by publically seeking a bit of legal advice.

We'd have done the same if we thought it would have unbalanced, say Liverpool or Arsenal.
 
Originally posted by Vincent:
<strong>We'd have done the same if we thought it would have unbalanced, say Liverpool or Arsenal.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I seriously doubt that.
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