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Players already plotting their backdoor escape
Who would you take at Utd?
Players already plotting their backdoor escape
Who wouldn’t you?Who would you take at Utd?
Who wouldn’t you?
Lot's of them. But specially three of them. In order of preferenceWho would you take at Utd?
Not very child friendly that.The badge, after some serious thought, should be the city mack daddy sat in the floor in the middle of a room, In the midst of a bukake party, with the words 'in oil we we trust' up top, and the Roman ' maximus wankus' at the bottom.
There would certainly be relegation clauses in all of their contracts. It would be a standard part of business these days and why the contracts they sign are so big and take so long. Literally a clause for everything.Doubt it.
If it's just for one season, I reckon City will sell a couple of players, loan a few, and keep a team that guarantees promotion. I also believe Pep will stay out of pride, then leave after the promotion.
There'll only be a clear out if it's more than one season sort of thing. No way City would allow it as losing all their stars would set them back a decade.
Who would you take at Utd?
That litigation would surely be directed at City and not the PLI'll be incredibly surprised if they're stripped of past titles, as someone above alluded to, that would result in an absolute omnishambles of litigation by all the wronged parties - clubs, players, betting companies, sponsors etc. etc. and so on. The PL will surely be keen to avoid that.
Even if they're not stripped of titles but still found to have broken FFP and inflated sponsorships etc. They're could still be legal cases from relegated teams, teams that failed to make top 4 etc etc.I'll be incredibly surprised if they're stripped of past titles, as someone above alluded to, that would result in an absolute omnishambles of litigation by all the wronged parties - clubs, players, betting companies, sponsors etc. etc. and so on. The PL will surely be keen to avoid that.
Their entire squad, let's be honest.Who would you take at Utd?
There would certainly be relegation clauses in all of their contracts. It would be a standard part of business these days and why the contracts they sign are so big and take so long. Literally a clause for everything.
Haaland, KDB, Gvordiol, Rodri, Stones and Ederson will not play in the championship. It just will not happen.
At best they might be able to keep ahold of Grealish, Foden and Walker.
If that blessed day came to be, who do we think would escape the sinking ship ? Ederson, B. Silva, KdB, Rodri for sure. Then maybe loan out Dias. Would be curious to see how Haaland escapes it with maybe only Barca and Bayern able to take him on.
Rodri would be number one, though I suspect if he were to leave City he would go back to Spain.
Haaland definitely.
All eyes will be on Foden if they get relegated. I’ve heard so many City fans use him as the proof of them producing their own.Let’s see how many emulate the Juve legends who stayed with the team when they were demoted.
To really punish them it has to be more than one division relegation, maybe kicked out of the football pyramid itself. So it takes them 4 or 5 years to get back to the PL, and by that point most of their players will have left, and both of their fans would have found jobs.Not sure if it’s already been said but would the EL kick up a fuss, surely the teams in championship would be a bit pissed off, City would 100% come straight back up which will take a spot off one of the teams wanting promotion
To really punish them it has to be more than one division relegation, maybe kicked out of the football pyramid itself. So it takes them 4 or 5 years to get back to the PL, and by that point most of their players will have left, and both of their fans would have found jobs.
I think that’s a sensible analysis by him. I alluded to his first point before. The harsher the penalty would be, the worse those in charge will look. Big institutions tend to do whatever is in their power to avoid that. Punishing City adequately would mean an admittance, that the PL failed to protect the league for more than a decade and that a cheating operation was allowed to corrupt every aspect of the game. That’s a horrible look, even if that’s obviously the truth.Ronay in the Guardian today has a stab at the issue. The fate of the league hangs on this; the Prem is threatened if either of two scenarios emerge. The first - according to him - is a big punishment for being found guilty. The basis of this seems to be a loss of credibility (?!!**^) for the league ‘product’. (But surely showing you are prepared to enforce rules, even belatedly, is a good thing, Barney?). Second of his likely scenes is the scum getting off Scot free. That’s no good (for the league) either. BR advocates a better, compromise solution; a fudge. He says such an ending is a good bet.
Thanks for the tip, old chap. I'm sure the oil chiefs would chew your arm off for such an outcome right now. Clever, and a not completely rubbish article, but just a little too obsequious towards the cheats in my view. “Accounting irregularities- spare me”, spouts lad-down-the-pub Barnay. Well, alright then.
Ronay in the Guardian today has a stab at the issue. The fate of the league hangs on this; the Prem is threatened if either of two scenarios emerge. The first - according to him - is a big punishment for being found guilty. The basis of this seems to be a loss of credibility (?!!**^) for the league ‘product’. (But surely showing you are prepared to enforce rules, even belatedly, is a good thing, Barney?). Second of his likely scenes is the scum getting off Scot free. That’s no good (for the league) either. BR advocates a better, compromise solution; a fudge. He says such an ending is a good bet.
Thanks for the tip, old chap. I'm sure the oil chiefs would chew your arm off for such an outcome right now. Clever, and a not completely rubbish article, but just a little too obsequious towards the cheats in my view. “Accounting irregularities- spare me”, spouts lad-down-the-pub Barnay. Well, alright then.
Just read the article. Complete waste of time. Speculating like anyone else can whist telling us nothing we don't already know about the case. Why even write it?Ronay in the Guardian today has a stab at the issue. The fate of the league hangs on this; the Prem is threatened if either of two scenarios emerge. The first - according to him - is a big punishment for being found guilty. The basis of this seems to be a loss of credibility (?!!**^) for the league ‘product’. (But surely showing you are prepared to enforce rules, even belatedly, is a good thing, Barney?). Second of his likely scenes is the scum getting off Scot free. That’s no good (for the league) either. BR advocates a better, compromise solution; a fudge. He says such an ending is a good bet.
Thanks for the tip, old chap. I'm sure the oil chiefs would chew your arm off for such an outcome right now. Clever, and a not completely rubbish article, but just a little too obsequious towards the cheats in my view. “Accounting irregularities- spare me”, spouts lad-down-the-pub Barnay. Well, alright then.
I hope they get terminatedWhy are there no leaks? I want to hear about how much shit they're in
Ronay in the Guardian today has a stab at the issue. The fate of the league hangs on this; the Prem is threatened if either of two scenarios emerge. The first - according to him - is a big punishment for being found guilty. The basis of this (jeopardy for the Premier League) seems to be a loss of credibility (?!!**^) for the league ‘product’. (But surely showing you are prepared to enforce rules, even belatedly, is a good thing, Barney?). Second of his likely scenes is the scum getting off Scot free. That’s no good (for the league) either. BR advocates a better, compromise solution; a fudge. He says such an ending is a good bet.
Thanks for the tip, old chap. I'm sure the oil chiefs would chew your arm off for such an outcome right now. Clever, and a not completely rubbish article, but just a little too obsequious towards the cheats in my view. “Accounting irregularities- spare me”, spouts lad-down-the-pub Barnay. Well, alright then.
It’s an opinion piece written by someone who people enjoy reading articles by? It’s not a news article really, it’s not there to bring you the latest news.Just read the article. Complete waste of time. Speculating like anyone else can whist telling us nothing we don't already know about the case. Why even write it?
people moan that nobody in the media is willing to discuss the 115 charges, and when they do they get shit on.Just read the article. Complete waste of time. Speculating like anyone else can whist telling us nothing we don't already know about the case. Why even write it?
One man’s opinion that carries mo more weight than your average poster on here tbhListening to Kieran Maguire on Norwegian tv, he very much doubt City will be expelled, but rather financial punishment or points deduction the most likely outcome
It’s also based on nothing. He has no idea as this is unprecedented and he’s also not a lawyer. Guessing like any of us.One man’s opinion that carries mo more weight than your average poster on here tbh
Ronay is a good writer, but he very often has absolutely nothing to say. Dictionary definition of style over substance.
The loss of credibility point though is absolutely valid though. If they find City guilty they admit the last 10 years are a sham and that is hard to recover from. The obvious example here is cycling which now has good drug testing and is widely considered a sport infested by cheaters because they catch them; in contrast football has testing widely considered to be a bit lax and rarely catches drug cheats. The conclusion? Football almost uniquely amongst competitive sports is not seen to have a PED problem.
The problem with that argument though is it’s too late. By charging them everybody already thinks they did it, they can’t find them guilty but fudge the punishment (although I suspect they may try) without the loss of credibility that comes with it anyway,
What? Why? The PL is acting?Part of me hopes they get zero punishment. Surely that would force other clubs to do something. Boycott their matches, play kids and reserves against them, let them go unbeaten for a couple of years. Make it so ridiculously painful to watch the PL is forced to act.
I’ve heard him interviewed a few times on Stretford paddock. He readily admits he isn’t a lawyer, he’s a teacher etc so isn’t qualified to comment, yet when he says yeah they could get docked points everyone runs with it anywayListening to Kieran Maguire on Norwegian tv, he very much doubt City will be expelled, but rather financial punishment or points deduction the most likely outcome
I’ve heard him interviewed a few times on Stretford paddock. He readily admits he isn’t a lawyer, he’s a teacher etc so isn’t qualified to comment, yet when he says yeah they could get docked points everyone runs with it anyway
Alright guysIt’s also based on nothing. He has no idea as this is unprecedented and he’s also not a lawyer. Guessing like any of us.
I wasn’t having a pop at you really, more so the outlets/channels that credit him as someone who can comment on this stuff with some insight - when he himself admits he doesn’t have the faintest idea!Alright guys
Was just summarizing what he said.
Didn't actually know who he was before today
Is it not possible that the players could also be in trouble? Wouldn't they be complicit in some way for things such as under the table payments like Mancini?