Probably in League 2.
Maybe not necessarily as low as League 2 but they'd have 100% been up and down the leagues
Probably in League 2.
You don’t get a lot of hate. Indifference is the word I’d use. Honestly it’s just indifference. I am jealous you have haaland though. What a monster of a footballer and seems like a good guy. Infact you have brilliant players and there’s no denying that whatsoever, ability and mentality wise. Exceptional manager too and I’ll admit that all day long. It’s more the club and ownership that people don’t enjoy and everything it represents. No one is denying the structure and how they have gone about their business in a footballing sense. Very astute and smart business from the start.
it’s the corruption and inauthenticity that makes it soulless
Well publicly City have:
Etihad Airways at £70 M ish https://www.statista.com/statistics/254569/manchester-city-revenue-from-kit-sponsorship/
Puma at £65 M
Asahi beer at £20M a year https://cityxtra.co.uk/4987/manches...r-kit-sponsor-in-expanded-record-partnership/
EA Sports extended deal (can't find a number but bet it isn't small)
OKX at £20 M
Nexen Tyres at £12.5 M
Nissan at something like £5 M
These are hardly small names.
So publicly reported deals are at around £192 M, then you have to add in the EA deal whatever that is and then all the other 20 or so smaller sponsors, and then on top of that all the merchandise sales they make and events etc. Do you really not think it's feasible that their reported £373 M commercial revenue is legit? It's not wild numbers. The rest of their revenue comes from prize money and broadcasting.
The only sponsor giving decent amounts that are slightly suspect might be OKX as crypto can be suspect and Etisalat the communications company from Abu Dhabi, but I don't think they are in material amounts.
Done a Bury FCMaybe not necessarily as low as League 2 but they'd have 100% been up and down the leagues
Yours to take. The whole concept of operating the club in a matter that is completely unsustainable for any normal club, even the biggest ones, over multiple years, isn't exactly limited to Manchester City.
The only reason whatsoever you are in the position you are, is because you were bankrolled by a Russian Oligarch for the better part of 20 years. Bankrolled to the point that you were spending money that no normally operated clubs had any chance of competing with, racking up a £1,6billion debt to your owner (and that is without any interest rates). One thing is the first team players being signed, a vastly different story is the absolutely insane amount of talents you were bringing in and loaning out. Chelsea has been run in an unsustainable way for how many years now in total? Even your current "project", that was "your risk to take", is completely unsustainable for a normally operated club and involves a multi club approach. Obviously there are different levels here, but you aren't exactly far from Manchester City in terms of how bad it is, there isn't much of a high road to take for a Chelsea supporter. When sanctions were put in place for people like him after Russia invaded Ukraine, Chelsea fans cheered his name. It is stupid enough that the vast majority of Chelsea fans, if not everyone, celebrated his role at the club from day one due to his willingness to let the club spend vast amounts of money to compete for trophies, but continuing to support him even after the invasion is absolute madness. Abramovich didn't have to hide the amounts being spent for the vast majority of time he owned the club, but even then he was involved in shady deals like Vitesse.
I know the vast majority couldn't be less bothered, as clearly demonstrated by the amount of fans reacting negatively to the news that Manchester United won't be bankrolled by Qatar, but for me the overall approach is complete madness and downright pathetic. How many years weren't Arsenal set back, with their long term project for building a new stadium, or any other club competing for the top 4.
Well publicly City have:
Etihad Airways at £70 M ish https://www.statista.com/statistics/254569/manchester-city-revenue-from-kit-sponsorship/
Puma at £65 M
Asahi beer at £20M a year https://cityxtra.co.uk/4987/manches...r-kit-sponsor-in-expanded-record-partnership/
EA Sports extended deal (can't find a number but bet it isn't small)
OKX at £20 M
Nexen Tyres at £12.5 M
Nissan at something like £5 M
These are hardly small names.
So publicly reported deals are at around £192 M, then you have to add in the EA deal whatever that is and then all the other 20 or so smaller sponsors, and then on top of that all the merchandise sales they make and events etc. Do you really not think it's feasible that their reported £373 M commercial revenue is legit? It's not wild numbers. The rest of their revenue comes from prize money and broadcasting.
The only sponsor giving decent amounts that are slightly suspect might be OKX as crypto can be suspect and Etisalat the communications company from Abu Dhabi, but I don't think they are in material amounts.
We're not Wigan though are we. We have had success in the past and have a much bigger fanbase pre money than Wigan. I agree we weren't at this level now but we weren't a tiny club with no history or trophy wins. This does come across as bitter I agree. I'm not going to argue about how you feel, just that it felt very good for the City fans and even though we get a lot of hate there is a good fanbase at the club that continues to grow.
Stop it rims you're hurting my braindon’t listen to these shitheads. they don’t know us, they don’t know our stories. they don’t remember those times when we were at main road together. we were there come rain or shine. unless we had things like the shopping to do, or our shoes were too wet to put back on after walking the dog in the morning.
they weren’t there when we doubled the fanbase in 2008 when colin and mikey accidentally walked into the village hall on the citizens supporter evening on wednesday instead of paedos anonymous on thursdays. they don’t remember how convenient it was for you that you could just turn up both days and not make such a faux pas. they weren’t there. we deserve our moment in the sun, it doesn’t matter how we got there.
Stop it rims you're hurting my brain
The City fans don't care. The record books are filling with entries with no asterisks or references to "plastic team" or any such stuff. It just says "Manchester City - Winners."
They have enough money to keep this in the courts for years and years.
I will be amazed if they suffer any kind of sanction.
Same. I'm not sure where all this talk of a expulsion from the PL is coming from as I just cant see it. City have money and power and at the end of the day, money and power always wins.
It's not always been the case that they've been allowed to do that, though. When JH Davies saved Newton Heath and they became Manchester United in 1902, he was very much limited by what he could do because of the players' pay limits and other things. When he built Old Trafford in 1910, the FA prevented him from gifting it to the club, as they deemed it too advantageous and uncompetitive, so they forced United to take out a mortgage to pay for it out of their income. The same rules clearly have not been applied in recent years.I just want to add that I don't like the City group or the multi-club ownership model. I think this should all be taken out of football. I also don't like that Man United are able to float themselves on the stock market to get a financial edge. There are lots of problems with money in football, but I think it has been this way since day 1, 150 years ago. Football has always been the local rich bloke pumping money into the local team and giving them an advantage, so I am not sure where to go from here...
I've supported City since I was a boy, and my dad before me and his dad before him. I don't feel like I can do anything about all this financial side of things except appreciate the football being played. At the end of the day it's the football that matters right?
I also don't like that Man United are able to float themselves on the stock market to get a financial edge.
I swear every City fan I've met genuinely prefers those days, even moreso the Maine road daysCrazy how quick these lot reinvented themselves. Had a fleeting thought today about how not long ago their legends were Craig Bellamy, Richard Dunne and Shaun Wright Phillips.
Lots do but it’s very easy to get over it when you’re pissing out premier league titles.I swear every City fan I've met genuinely prefers those days, even moreso the Maine road days
Just like the proverbial racehorse, that same piss has been smelt and inquests have begun.Lots do but it’s very easy to get over it when you’re pissing out premier league titles.
Record revenues.
"Off the pitch there were new record profits from record revenues of £713 million.
In short, last season saw Manchester City achieve the greatest football and commercial year of its storied history."
"It also confirms on 6 February 2023, City were referred to a commission for a "number of alleged breaches of Premier League rules". The club repeated its statement in response that it "welcomes" the review and that it has "irrefutable evidence" to support its position."
Manchester City have posted a Premier League record revenue of £712.8m for the 2022-23 financial year, all definately above board of course
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67420414
The most valuable club brand in the world and they can’t even sell out their stadium.
I was going to ask this, since they’re privately owned whats stopping them just making this up?Of course, there's no break-up available of commercial revenues to decipher how much is contributed by Abu Dhabi
I was going to ask this, since they’re privately owned whats stopping them just making this up?
I swear every City fan I've met genuinely prefers those days, even moreso the Maine road days