City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024

We're not Wigan though are we. We have had success in the past and have a much bigger fanbase pre money than Wigan. I agree we weren't at this level now but we weren't a tiny club with no history or trophy wins. This does come across as bitter I agree. I'm not going to argue about how you feel, just that it felt very good for the City fans and even though we get a lot of hate there is a good fanbase at the club that continues to grow.

don’t listen to these shitheads. they don’t know us, they don’t know our stories. they don’t remember those times when we were at main road together. we were there come rain or shine. unless we had things like the shopping to do, or our shoes were too wet to put back on after walking the dog in the morning.

they weren’t there when we doubled the fanbase in 2008 when colin and mikey accidentally walked into the village hall on the citizens supporter evening on wednesday instead of paedos anonymous on thursdays. they don’t remember how convenient it was for you that you could just turn up both days and not make such a faux pas. they weren’t there. we deserve our moment in the sun, it doesn’t matter how we got there.
 
don’t listen to these shitheads. they don’t know us, they don’t know our stories. they don’t remember those times when we were at main road together. we were there come rain or shine. unless we had things like the shopping to do, or our shoes were too wet to put back on after walking the dog in the morning.

they weren’t there when we doubled the fanbase in 2008 when colin and mikey accidentally walked into the village hall on the citizens supporter evening on wednesday instead of paedos anonymous on thursdays. they don’t remember how convenient it was for you that you could just turn up both days and not make such a faux pas. they weren’t there. we deserve our moment in the sun, it doesn’t matter how we got there.
Stop it rims you're hurting my brain
 
Rims is basically the troubled child you lock away in the cupboard whenever you have guests around just in case he tries to hump their leg again.
 
As much as I despise City as a club, I feel sorry for City fans trying to defend the indefensible.
The reason for the 115 charges in summation is because City as a club did not earn the money to win every trophy they won since the takeover by the oil state.
Simply. They overstated Income and understated expenses.
Therefore the money came from the owners directly via different avenues.

Now they will have to face the consequences.
The owners will feck off when all is done and dusted. But the fans will have to deal with the results.

This is why I was dead against Qatar buying United.

The same shit would have happened.
We dodged a bullet.
 
Anyone that denies City have got where they are by cheating are deluded and season ticket holders at the Bell end of the Emptyhad. It's odds on that the PL will cock this up one way or another. When you're up against this much money and influence, more is at play than facts. The Barclays share episode is an example of how they work. In 2008 after the crash, Barclays went looking for investment abroad as they didn't want a UK government bale out as that would mean no juicy bonuses for the board. Abu Dhabi investment fund coughed up and then it gets murky with sweeteners in Mansours name and then not in his name, shares sold at rock bottom prices to Mansour and then not Mansour. Barclays slipped up and originally told shareholders that Mansour was personally responsible for the £3bn investment but 24hrs later it was International Petroleum Company (guess who's the Chairman?).Read this and make up your own mind if it's not questionable.
https://www.euromoney.com/article/b...h-about-barclays-and-the-abu-dhabi-investment

There was also a Panorama programme investigating this but that has mysteriously disappeared.
 
The City fans don't care. The record books are filling with entries with no asterisks or references to "plastic team" or any such stuff. It just says "Manchester City - Winners."

They have enough money to keep this in the courts for years and years.

I will be amazed if they suffer any kind of sanction.
 
The City fans don't care. The record books are filling with entries with no asterisks or references to "plastic team" or any such stuff. It just says "Manchester City - Winners."

They have enough money to keep this in the courts for years and years.

I will be amazed if they suffer any kind of sanction.

Same. I'm not sure where all this talk of a expulsion from the PL is coming from as I just cant see it. City have money and power and at the end of the day, money and power always wins.
 
Same. I'm not sure where all this talk of a expulsion from the PL is coming from as I just cant see it. City have money and power and at the end of the day, money and power always wins.

Abu Dhabi have money and power, City are merely the dead zombie vessel for them.
 
The FA may have brought the charges. But it is not because they suddenly grew a conscience.
The FA is as corrupt as FIFA. Otherwise they would not have allowed a leveraged buyout by the Glazer whoresons.

It is the other clubs that had enough.
They will not keep quiet until there is follow through on the charges.
 
I just want to add that I don't like the City group or the multi-club ownership model. I think this should all be taken out of football. I also don't like that Man United are able to float themselves on the stock market to get a financial edge. There are lots of problems with money in football, but I think it has been this way since day 1, 150 years ago. Football has always been the local rich bloke pumping money into the local team and giving them an advantage, so I am not sure where to go from here...

I've supported City since I was a boy, and my dad before me and his dad before him. I don't feel like I can do anything about all this financial side of things except appreciate the football being played. At the end of the day it's the football that matters right?
It's not always been the case that they've been allowed to do that, though. When JH Davies saved Newton Heath and they became Manchester United in 1902, he was very much limited by what he could do because of the players' pay limits and other things. When he built Old Trafford in 1910, the FA prevented him from gifting it to the club, as they deemed it too advantageous and uncompetitive, so they forced United to take out a mortgage to pay for it out of their income. The same rules clearly have not been applied in recent years.
 
I also don't like that Man United are able to float themselves on the stock market to get a financial edge.

The way people go on you would think Man Utd were the first to float on the stock market but thats not trues it was Spurs 8 years earlier in 1983 and by the end of the 1990's more than 20 clubs had done it.

It was also Spurs who brought in the big money to the Premier League in 1992 when then Spurs chairman Lord Alan Sugar used his contacts at SKY (his company Amstrad made all of SKYS decoder boxes) to convince them to make a huge offer for the Premier Leagues broadcast rights after the other clubs had agreed to accept an offer tabled by ITV.

What I do find ridiculous is the fact that Shiekh Mansoor was somehow allowed to purchase Man City when he already had £3.5bn invested in Barclays who were the Premier Leagues Chief Sponsors.
 
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Crazy how quick these lot reinvented themselves. Had a fleeting thought today about how not long ago their legends were Craig Bellamy, Richard Dunne and Shaun Wright Phillips.
 
Crazy how quick these lot reinvented themselves. Had a fleeting thought today about how not long ago their legends were Craig Bellamy, Richard Dunne and Shaun Wright Phillips.
I swear every City fan I've met genuinely prefers those days, even moreso the Maine road days
 
Record revenues.

"Off the pitch there were new record profits from record revenues of £713 million.

In short, last season saw Manchester City achieve the greatest football and commercial year of its storied history."


"It also confirms on 6 February 2023, City were referred to a commission for a "number of alleged breaches of Premier League rules". The club repeated its statement in response that it "welcomes" the review and that it has "irrefutable evidence" to support its position."
 
Record revenues.

"Off the pitch there were new record profits from record revenues of £713 million.

In short, last season saw Manchester City achieve the greatest football and commercial year of its storied history."


"It also confirms on 6 February 2023, City were referred to a commission for a "number of alleged breaches of Premier League rules". The club repeated its statement in response that it "welcomes" the review and that it has "irrefutable evidence" to support its position."



Oh of course they do


 
The most valuable club brand in the world and they can’t even sell out their stadium.

but but but its all about social media now innit

"by the end of the season the Club’s social media accounts had a total of 132 million followers – with the Club’s main social accounts facilitating almost 7 billion video views"

The more I read their annual statement, the more i'm flabbergasted how these bastards are so blatant with their cheating and revelling in the fact they know they can get away with it! Oh how I dream of the day they get their comeuppance!
 
I hope whoever is investigating them between 2012 and 2018, also has a division keeping up with all the current day bullshit too.
 
record yearly revenues, you’ll never sing that.
 
I was going to ask this, since they’re privately owned whats stopping them just making this up?

do you really think we’d be sat here with our huge hogs swinging between our legs, making things up?
 
I swear every City fan I've met genuinely prefers those days, even moreso the Maine road days

Yeah I'm sure they miss losing twice in the league in one season to my boys Wycombe Wanderers!
These current days must barely compare.
 
Christ on a crutch. Imagine waking up one day as the Manchester City fan. You wake up and your radio begins the day with "roll with it" by Oasis, you go through to the bathroom and brush your teeth with aquafresh toothpaste (but you have to get rid of the red bit and only use the blue and white because you're not going to use that rag scum), then going down to breakfast after letting your dogs Sergio and Niall out the back door to have a wee. You put the telly on and there's the news and it's official: Manchester City are the biggest grossing team in world football.

"Fantastic", you think to yourself, "Finally our ascension gets recognised" as you hear the postman. A thick envelope pops through the door "Must be my 10 free season tickets arriving again, same as last year" you exclaim. I've been struggling to convince the wife to go, and the homeless people I gave the last 9 to apparently burned them for heat, but this time, as the treble winners, surely it will be different. Unfortunately, no, most of them are still rag scum and your kids friends in Stockport primary school seen to still be putting on those dirty manc jerseys all the time. To hell with those rag scum, it's all about the girls these days innit. But apparently they don't seem to agree with the whole "being owned by multiple husbands" or "not being allowed things like being able to drive a car" thing. But your lads (a team of mercenaries from all over the world) best THEIR lads (a worse team of mercenaries from all over the world plus some Salford scum) lately. So none of it makes ANY SENSE.

But this 790m revenue thing? That makes sense. That makes the most sense of all, you chuckle as you eat your blue mouldy toast and do a little Poznan to yourself.
 
I'm hearing Everton are getting a -12 point deduction. Zero chance City get away with this if Everton are punished
 
I'm hearing Everton are getting a -12 point deduction. Zero chance City get away with this if Everton are punished

PL suits are obviously just fed up of Everton giving Liverpool 6pts every year and scraping out of the relegation battle.