Art isn't important?
Film Christopher Nolan's 'Oppenheimer'
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Not really. Unless me claiming my mum is a more significant person than Oppenheimer is also a valid answer (it isn't).
Or history?
Why don't you care about your mum?
Amen.
Feel the same way, guy's an amazing actor and seems a decent bloke (I love how uninterested and fed up he seems in most of his interviews
) It's a worthy cautionary tale, some might say!
It’s about the dangers of letting another man drink your milkshake.
The only mum we care about is Cina's.
The rest of us sure care about his mum
Right.
There Will Be Blood is about the American Dream. It unravels the mythos of it, basically, and shows that it's all about blood and oil. It wasn't about nothing though mostly a character study.
Other than that, importance is fairly relative. Physics, in film, is often lauded because it has an economic angle to it (Beautiful Mind, Good Will Hunting, stuff like that). It plays upon the idea of genius and economy. But genius given over to a specific part of the economy (war, mostly, when it comes to the academy and the sciences, not because the scientists want it, see Descartes some 400 years ago, but because that's the climate into which the science is produced). Einstein is arguably the most important person of the last century. Then some others might say Gandhi. Impossible to measure. Hitler will be the most remembered, which is an old quip, regardless. And that is a comment upon the science-war-economy belt, to which Oppenheimer himself, of course, would become infamously welded.
It's like the artists in the Renaissance era. Or Machiavelli. He wrote The Prince but he wrote it for a patron. Question, then, is how much of the climate made Machiavelli (demand for such a text) and how much of Machiavelli made the climate. Just a thought (the gist being that the scientists are patronized by military industrial complexes of the world). Think about it. Whether you are a pacifist or a Nazi, if you are a scientist and into physics, that will be used in war and peace (but mostly war). It's the way the worlds' academies are poisoned by the way the world itself has been made.
Other than that, importance is fairly relative. Physics, in film, is often lauded because it has an economic angle to it (Beautiful Mind, Good Will Hunting, stuff like that). It plays upon the idea of genius and economy. But genius given over to a specific part of the economy (war, mostly, when it comes to the academy and the sciences, not because the scientists want it, see Descartes some 400 years ago, but because that's the climate into which the science is produced). Einstein is arguably the most important person of the last century. Then some others might say Gandhi. Impossible to measure. Hitler will be the most remembered, which is an old quip, regardless. And that is a comment upon the science-war-economy belt, to which Oppenheimer himself, of course, would become infamously welded.
It's like the artists in the Renaissance era. Or Machiavelli. He wrote The Prince but he wrote it for a patron. Question, then, is how much of the climate made Machiavelli (demand for such a text) and how much of Machiavelli made the climate. Just a thought (the gist being that the scientists are patronized by military industrial complexes of the world). Think about it. Whether you are a pacifist or a Nazi, if you are a scientist and into physics, that will be used in war and peace (but mostly war). It's the way the worlds' academies are poisoned by the way the world itself has been made.
Amen.
Feel the same way, guy's an amazing actor and seems a decent bloke (I love how uninterested and fed up he seems in most of his interviews
It's a worthy cautionary tale, some might say!
You're a bastard in a basket.
What. A. Fecking. Movie.
P.S. definitely imax the shit out of it.
P.S. definitely imax the shit out of it.
About to depart to the local IMAX in a few. Can’t frigging wait.
This is exactly what dick dastardly would do, trick you into a 3 hour film that's shite so he can win the race
To go watch a movie about TNT at that.
All the while you cnuts are sitting on 20 megatons of the finest ACME dynamite.
I've watched it. I don't get the hype. Oppenheimers story isn't that interesting to turn it into a proper summer blockbuster.
It all felt relatively safe. And too much background music. I swear to God, directors need to appreciate the art of leaving out the background music. The atomic bomb explosion was the most interesting moment of the movie and Nolan used annoying background music for the countdown rather than let the audience anticipate in silence and build up the tension.
It's just an above average drama movie at the end of the day. It's got big production values and all but it just wasn't that interesting. The kind of movie you'll watch on some rainy Sunday evening on TV.
I mean, let's be real here. The bomb test was the most interesting moment. All the personal drama around Oppenheimer was meh.
It all felt relatively safe. And too much background music. I swear to God, directors need to appreciate the art of leaving out the background music. The atomic bomb explosion was the most interesting moment of the movie and Nolan used annoying background music for the countdown rather than let the audience anticipate in silence and build up the tension.
It's just an above average drama movie at the end of the day. It's got big production values and all but it just wasn't that interesting. The kind of movie you'll watch on some rainy Sunday evening on TV.
I mean, let's be real here. The bomb test was the most interesting moment. All the personal drama around Oppenheimer was meh.
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Will most likely see this on Sunday. I was going to book a imax screening for next month but tbh all the nerd shite about 40mm film etc has put me off.
Just want to see how it holds up in a normal cinema where the seats are uncomfortable and your shoes stick to the floor.
Just want to see how it holds up in a normal cinema where the seats are uncomfortable and your shoes stick to the floor.
Death, taxes and random bitter Caftards needlessly shitting on even the best of things.
I assume you've already determined that you'll like it then?
Packed absolutely asshole to elbow in here like it was for Top Gun 2.
That's deep. Hope you lubed up
You must be kidding, the stuff that we Cafites are most enthusiastic about ranges from the crushingly mediocre to the complete rot. We have the collective palate of a dung beetle.
We had a load of posters watching a YouTube live stream of a plane taking off before, just because a new player was on it. So we are collectively in no position to be judging any form of entertainment.
Might help get you through the 3 hr run time?
Please tell me that didn't happen?
Lots of things such as art or music could be considered important to have in a general sense but it seems a very odd thing to call a blockbuster biopic, no matter how interesting the person or key event. Why is it important as a film exactly?
guys we're talking about Nolan's movies.
they aren't important. get over it.
I'll let you know on Sunday
Oh it did.
Just got back from it in Imax. Brilliant movie and so much better than the nonsense he did with Tenet. Great acting all around and loved the background score.
How good was the film on a scale of most important films over the last century?
Same feeling. Incredible acting, musical credits, camerawork but the story gets quite uninteresting in the last hour. We know what happens so the final consequences are not that dramatic. 7/10.
Just got back and that was phenomenal. I'm gonna watch this a lot of times.
I wish there was some international law that banned the making of 3 hour films for the next couple of years. Can’t remember the last time a big blockbuster was a nice 90 minute run time.
Couldn't care less who directed it, it's an important story to tell.
Definitely wasn't swayed one iota to see it due to Nolan being involved in it.
Important story to tell & it was done wonderfully.
Seeing it on Monday and can’t wait based on reviews I’m seeing.
One thing that I wish they'd included was
the impact the test bomb in New Mexico would have had on residents and those nearby. It's a story left untold even though I understand the movie is all about Oppenheimer.