Christopher Nkunku

justboy68 said:
They can feck off trying to get the full money back.
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I’m almost certain if Nkunku was to leave next summer we could get £50m for him, or close to it, above £40m. He’s an excellent player. Just a question of fit. He spent a season injured, after being signed as the marquee player. Managers changed. Jackson cemented himself.

I’d love to keep him but I accept that he’s too good to warm the bench.
 
I'd take him in January as a stopgap solution if the price is right. From what I gather, he is a fairly steady player and would be a very good backup striker/second striker.
 
The-Mezzala said:
Remember being gutted when Chelsea signed him . Looked like he was going to become one of the best forwards in Europe at Red Bull. About time we got one over on chelsea after the Mount deal. But conceded he has lost a bit since the injury . If we got him for a good price not against it. Imagine he is going to want crazy wages also
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He was one of those recommended to our board back then was he not by ralf ragnick? Along with gvardiol, kaimmer and alvarez.

You can see why we would be interested in him in one of the 10 roles behind the striker in amorims 343. If he can recover his RedBull form. Amorim is known for improving players, maybe he would be a good buy. Depends on price and howamy options amorim wants for that position. You'd think with amad, Bruno, mount and rashford that more than enough. Maybe we will ship someone like rashford out?
 
Wasn't he very highly rated when he joined Chelsea? I think it's weird that Jackson starts ahead of him but I don't know the reasons.
Don't want him anywhere OT just because of his stupid celebration.
 
Prodigy24 said:
Wasn't he very highly rated when he joined Chelsea? I think it's weird that Jackson starts ahead of him but I don't know the reasons.
Don't want him anywhere OT just because of his stupid celebration.
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Chelsea play 1 up front, Nkunku could play in a 2 up front but isnt a proper striker in the same way. Plus Nkunku hasnt been fit anywhere near as much as Jackson who is doing well this season.

Nkunku is mostly a 2nd striker, or 10. We'll play 2 of these if Amorim mirrors his Sporting side and with Bruno's skillset on one side, we probably need someone who can run with the ball in the other spot as well as be creative. Thats what Trincao gives a bit more of than Pote, but Pote too is a much better dribbler than Bruno who for all the things he does do well... He's never improved that.

Nkunku was great in Germany but so was Sancho. Nkunku is obviously devalued at the moment as Chelsea dont seem to need him and he hasnt proven himself in England yet, so more likely to be available at a bargain a bit like Mazaraoui was in the summer - or Sancho. Thats why hes worth considering and why he is probably available.

If he got back to his form in Germany he'd be in the top 10 attackers in the league. But it would be taking a chance on a player with a point to prove and sometimes that works, sometimes it doesnt. Some examples of it working - Palmer going to Chelsea because he wasnt going to be starting for City. Odegaard moving from Madrid to Arsenal, Salah coming back to the premier league after not making an impression at Chelsea. And there are countless examples of it not working too.
 
If he hit his Bundesliga form, he is one of the top atackers around. Speeds of over 35+ is making a big difference compared to Sancho.
 
A good player we dont need. Someone should ban us from buying number 10's for a year or two.
 
distant_red said:
I didn’t realise he was 27 for some reason, thought he was 23/24. Good luck trying to recoup 50+ mil for him.
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The club doesn't need to recoup the transfer fee, we'd be paying that amount for what he can hopefully add to our squad in terms of quality while with us in his prime years. 'Recoupability' is not invariably a factor in every transfer
 
CannibalSpectre said:
The club doesn't need to recoup the transfer fee, we'd be paying that amount for what he can hopefully add to our squad in terms of quality while with us in his prime years. 'Recoupability' is not invariably a factor in every transfer
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He’s saying good luck to Chelsea trying to recoup the £52m fee we paid Leipzig.
 
His injury record worries me massively, which is a shame. I think he's a much better player than we've seen and he's totally wasted at Chelsea.

But at his age and injury issues, I'd be very wary.
 
Judas said:
His injury record worries me massively, which is a shame. I think he's a much better player than we've seen and he's totally wasted at Chelsea.

But at his age and injury issues, I'd be very wary.
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Yeah the injury concerns are very valid
 
Judas said:
His injury record worries me massively, which is a shame. I think he's a much better player than we've seen and he's totally wasted at Chelsea.

But at his age and injury issues, I'd be very wary.
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Agree had enough of constant crocks. Shaw, Mount, don't need to get them a treatment room buddy.
 
FrankDrebin said:
But is he actually any good?
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We shouldn't be signing players that can't get a game at Chelsea.
We should be signings players Chelsea wish they could get but can't.
SAF was a great manager, part of what made him so was recruiting players who are great or with a very high ceiling the host of players who played under him were exceptional not goodish.
I'll pass!
 
Trex said:
We shouldn't be signing players that can't get a game at Chelsea.
We should be signings players Chelsea wish they could get but can't.
SAF was a great manager, part of what made him so was recruiting players who are great or with a very high ceiling the host of players who played under him were exceptional not goodish.
I'll pass!
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Yep.
His injury record looks poor too.

This all feels familiar.
 
Let's buy another player from some big club's dust bin. What can possibly go wrong?
 
devilish said:
Let's buy another player from some big club's dust bin. What can possibly go wrong?
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It's actually smart to buy the players that become available because other big clubs stack up too much. It's a good way to get top players when you're not in a top position to attract them yourself.
Mazraoui, De Ligt, Ugarte. Let's add Goretzka, Nkunku.
Definitely better than spending all our money on kids from Atalanta or Parma who might become good by 2028.
 
FortunaUtd said:
Yes. He is fantastic. Would be ideal for the left 10 in a 3-4-3.
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While tactical he's a fit, is he an ambitious enough buy, we need players to lift our level not consolidate it, we should be on the phone selling our project to Wirtz camp or some that highly regarded.
SAF built his teams around the Cantonas, Rooneys, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Keanes of this world. A chef is only as good as the ingredients.
 
FortunaUtd said:
It's actually smart to buy the players that become available because other big clubs stack up too much. It's a good way to get top players when you're not in a top position yourself.
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We should be getting a Palmer equivalent not some who can't get a game ahead of Sancho.
 
FortunaUtd said:
It's actually smart to buy the players that become available because other big clubs stack up too much. It's a good way to get top players when you're not in a top position to attract them yourself.
Mazraoui, De Ligt, Ugarte. Let's add Goretzka, Nkunku.
Definitely better than spending all our money on kids from Atalanta or Parma who might become good by 2028.
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You mean like Mata, Matic, Mount, Varane and Casemiro? That's smart

Football is becoming more and more about athleticism, work rate and ability to cover as many inches of pitch as humanely possible. You need young players who don't break in pieces at the minimum pressure.
 
Trex said:
We should be getting a Palmer equivalent not some who can't get a game ahead of Sancho.
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We're not getting Palmer though and there are no equivalents. Neither are we getting Wirtz.
And that's the beauty of it, Chelsea have Palmer and are obliged to buy Sancho which means Nkunku is surplus to requirement, while being top quality himself. Someone will be laughing, why not us.
 
FortunaUtd said:
It's actually smart to buy the players that become available because other big clubs stack up too much. It's a good way to get top players when you're not in a top position to attract them yourself.
Mazraoui, De Ligt, Ugarte. Let's add Goretzka, Nkunku.
Definitely better than spending all our money on kids from Atalanta or Parma who might become good by 2028.
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Goretzka and Nkunku would be terrible acquisitions. We’d have learned literally nothing by doing this.

There’s also a fine crop of players in inbetween signing youth players and also signing big club cast-offs. Let’s target those.
 
FortunaUtd said:
We're not getting Palmer though and there are no equivalents. Neither are we getting Wirtz.
And that's the beauty of it, Chelsea have Palmer and are obliged to buy Sancho which means Nkunku is surplus to requirement, while being top quality himself. Someone will be laughing, why not us.
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Since joining Chelsea, Nkunku has missed 43 matches due to injury. Your post heavily relies on Nkunku 1. staying fit, but probably more importantly, 2. Chelsea giving us some sort of cut price deal where the reward outweighs the reward. Don't think it's going to happen.

EDIT: There's also the very obvious elephant in the room that Nkunku has failed to perform since joining Chelsea when he actually has been given the chance.
 
devilish said:
You mean like Mata, Matic, Mount, Varane and Casemiro? That's smart

Football is becoming more and more about athleticism, work rate and ability to cover as many inches of pitch as humanely possible. You need young players who don't break in pieces at the minimum pressure.
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You don't win anything with kids. We need quality players with experience as well. The transfer strategy has to be balanced, and opportunity buys from overstacked squads are smart for us since we've spent a couple of years' budget on Hojlund and Yoro.
Besides, Nkunku has work rate, athleticism, pace in spades and is 27.
If 27 is considered too old we need to get our fecking heads checked.
 
FortunaUtd said:
You don't win anything with kids. We need quality players with experience as well. The transfer strategy has to be balanced, and opportunity buys from overstacked squads are smart for us since we've spent a couple of years' budget on Hojlund and Yoro.
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I have a feeling that most fans would prefer us buying the likes of Yoro then the likes of Bastian, Casemiro and Mount. I could be wrong though. United love their injury prone players on silly salaries. Considering Nkunku injury record then he'll fit perfectly with his former teammate at the treatment room
 
DWelbz19 said:
Goretzka and Nkunku would be terrible acquisitions. We’d have learned literally nothing by doing this.

There’s also a fine crop of players in inbetween signing youth players and also signing big club cast-offs. Let’s target those.
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Goretzka would be an absolutely fantastic acquisition. One of the most underrated midfielders of the last 5 years, complete player and absolute top quality.
 
27 is old for someone who's got a poor injury record. It's only going to get worse the older he gets.
 
Goretzka won't be a fantastic acquisition.
No, disrespect but you seem stuck in 2021 with your transfer targets.
 
devilish said:
I have a feeling that most fans would prefer us buying the likes of Yoro then the likes of Casemiro and Mount. I could be wrong though. United love their injury prone players on silly salaries.
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I don't mind buying a Yoro as he likely will be awesome, but routinely spending 70-80 millions on teenagers seems much more like a luxury thing to do if you're struggling in mid table and the remaining budget only suffices for a Weghorst loan type deal.
 
FrankDrebin said:
Goretzka won't be a fantastic acquisition.
No, disrespect but you seem stuck in 2021 with your transfer targets.
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Many simply do not understand that grandfather time catches on everyone. It nailed Roy Keane and it made Franco Baresi + Mohammed Ali look silly. The older you get, the slower you become, the less energy you have and the more time you'll need to recover from injury
 
FrankDrebin said:
Goretzka won't be a fantastic acquisition.
No, disrespect but you seem stuck in 2021 with your transfer targets.
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Goretzka wouldn't have been available 2021.. he is starting at Bayern right now, they want to sell him because their wage bill is inflated. If Casemiro leaves we have space and wage money for a top experienced 6-8. But that's for another thread.
 
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