You can move on if his high goal and assist ratio don't overcome the lack of balance that he creates, it's a bit like Lukaku or Coutinho. Unless Bruno finds a way to become more consistent and influential when it comes to controlling possession, he will be a player with a question over his head despite his personal stats.
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You can move on if his high goal and assist ratio don't overcome the lack of balance that he creates, it's a bit like Lukaku or Coutinho. Unless Bruno finds a way to become more consistent and influential when it comes to controlling possession, he will be a player with a question over his head despite his personal stats.
He will have to fit into ETH system or move on im not arguing with that but you cant deny his goal production when he is in a settled team.
Spot on JP.
I do feel if he was in Spain, Germany or France he'd have climbed the ladder a lot sooner. With Murtough he ended up at clubs with the manager model in full force. So his remit was to oversee the youth/scouting/data departments instead.
And like you say we can't predict the future, but we should at least give him a chance and try and learn from our rivals like Liverpool, who appointed Michael Edwards in a similar role when his reputation was on the floor.
It's not just ETH system, he hasn't fit in any system, he has been a soloist for us. And you can definitely deny his goal production when it's not conducive to consistent and collective offensive potency, it's also worth remembering that a large amount of them are penalties, he is a below 10 open field goals per season in the league which isn't particularly impressive unless if you are also playing as a game controller.
At the moment, he is a poor man's Van der Vaart.
Almost laughable it's that embarrassing. What are our scouting department even doing?!
Still working their way through the other "803" right backs options they had on the right back shortlist when Ole signed Wan Bissaka.
I like Bruno but I agree with this and completely disagree with the G/A is the be all and end all argument. You want compete with the best sides than the collective / general play has to be given high priority. Bruno has been poor in this regard for a prolonged period now.
Ogden isn't a good source but it could easily be true. When Rangnick came in, in our staff's mind we had Rashford, Martial, Fernandes, VDB, Sancho and Greenwood plus Elanga, Amad and Pellistri. They probably let it be known internally not to look at the 7, 10 and 11 positions and to concentrate elsewhere such as DM and a 9 to replace Cavani. Most likely Rice and Kane and went home. Since then:
Rashford poor season
Martial out the door and can't be bothered
VDB on loan
Sancho slowly getting better but looks a 30m player not a 90m
Greenwood.... Enough said
Amad awful loan
Pellistri awful loan
The decision looks amazingly stupid now but 6 months ago I bet people on our staff rated six of them higher than Nkunku. Our staffs standards are so odd I don't even know what they see when looking at player or even what they think is good football. Its all about clicks on social media for them and we have the best squad of players for that.
If we bring in EtH, keep RR to find players for him, release all the out of contract players and start selling players like Martial, Maguire and AWB, I will start to hope we are on the right track again this summer but its the hope that kills you.
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will never understand how they landed on that plonker, another £50m wasted.I don't think some of the club's choices for transfers have been totally outlandish. With the exception of Maguire / AWB the club with a more convincing hierarchy could have potentially poached Bellingham and Haaland before their breakout seasons for Dortmund. I believe Sancho was also approached before leaving City. Those three players alone under the right manager offer up the spine of a team.
We’re preparing to scout guys!!!
Don’t agree but this isn’t the thread. Young doesn't mean not good enough to play.
Shaw is twice the player Telles is even off form
Even our scouting department should be looking at all talents regardless of position, Im sure we have enough scouts to spread them around. If we didnt scout him or think he would be a viable option then changes need made in the scouting department.
Halaand we knew about as Ole tipped the club off when he had him. The other two are English. I have serious doubts about our scouting at a Euopean level (or at least the evaluation of the scouting reports that come in)
If we look at our transfers it doesn’t really hold our ability to judge transfers in good light. Whether thats the scouting or the recruitment department who knows.
Can't wait for an over hit pass from Maguire so I can say one flew over Nkunku's chest
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Seen it all now.
Darren bent claimed this rubbish and now people are carrying it
I didn't know that Bent talked about it. Van der Vaart had very similar stats around the 2010s with Van Der Vaart having less penalties. They were both limited in terms of controlling games or consistency in open play. Van der Vaart is the player that reminds me the most Bruno.
Bruno works a lot harder than VdV ever did
Has less to do with that and more to do with how he actually fits into a top level side. His production is no doubt invaluable for a large majority of clubs but it’s also undeniable that he doesn’t get into any of the top teams in the world because if his gunslinger nature and shit decision making.
I’m skeptical that changes under ETH and would be pleasantly surprised if the club stealthily sold him for a huge fee since we are going to be rebuilding anyways.
This is true, but a statement that underlines how the poetry of the game has disappeared in today’s game.
28 goals in all comp this season. 17 from his right foot, 7 from his left foot, while 4 was header. Pretty impressive. And that’s just his goals, he scored good amount of assists too.
You'd also keep Pogba if you had the choice, so feel free if I ignore your opinion on Bruno.
Seriously though, how comes nearly every poster who constantly bashes Bruno, are always the same ones who continuously lavish praise Pogba even though he's been a complete flop since he got here?
It's that Rashford vs Martial thing, gotta tear one guy down to bring my guy up.
Probably salivating over Declan Rice. Seriously our recruitment department seems fixated on the Brexit cultural reboot when it comes to midfield especially. Same crew that wanted Sean Longstaff
Can someone explain why we would be interested in this player? He is a #10 right? I understand Bruno has not performed amazing lately but I don't think an attacking midfielder is a priority this summer is it?
I know nothing about him but he seems like a false 9 as he also does play as a striker.
So he could be classified as our centre forward for next season which we do need.
It depends on the new manager's faith in Bruno in delivering as the create force of the team, and if this fellow could end up being an upgrade. If he's the next top top player, and suits the next manager's ideas/system, then we should definitely look at him. I don't anyone is guaranteed a starting spot in this team.
Nkunku is a strange player in the sense that he is one of the few "high" level utility player. He can play anywhere from CM, AM, CF or either wing. Where you can use him depends more on what you expect from each position. His initial position is CM.
I think he is quite different from any player in our squad. More similar to Salah/Mane/Foden than Bruno. He is more of a inside forward than a #10. And he can also play up top.
He is also a player with great intensity.
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Very loosely think Firmino at Hoffenheim. He’d absolutely be able to play false 9 for a top side if that’s how we wanted to go.
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Yeah less so Foden though.
He’s a mobile modern forward or possible false 9. I wouldn’t call him a playmaker in the Bruno sense.
Ivan Toney pisses all over this joker!
Grow up
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Do we really want a front two of a child slapper and a public urinator though?
Good post.can’t help but think it will fall on deaf ears. Narrative over logic and all that
It's an interesting description when he has been playing deeper than Bruno and registered more assists. How would you describe being a playmaker with Bruno as a reference?
How would you compare him to Bruno as an overall footballer? I like Bruno but this "build a team around XYZ" is dangerous, as I don't believe we have one footballer without any question marks against him. Sancho on paper seems the most obvious one you should be able to rely on in any setting, but based on what we've seen, he needs to get better at dealing with the PL intensity before we can make that claim.
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