That is not what I meant when I said I wanted to see Fred play more, feck's sake.
Christian Eriksen has left Old Trafford on crutches
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Blessing in disguised, sign a midfielder in January. Caceido let's go.
It’s pointless worrying about the team selection. It’s the kind of injury that could have happened in any game, nothing to do with fatigue.
Wishing a injury on someone , well done
The drama around Ten Hag playing a strong line-up is hilarious imo. Surely he knows better than us if players need a rest or not. Had it been any other player it would still be annoying.
Fans moan about players/managers creating a toxic atmosphere, they should stop doing it themselves.
Fans moan about players/managers creating a toxic atmosphere, they should stop doing it themselves.
Recall DeanRecall Amad.
That's clearly not the case, stop shit-stirring.
He carried on the game, probably used crutches as a precaution. Besides, he’s been nowhere near good enough for us to consider our season over if Eriksen has a knock.Didn’t he play 5-10 minutes after the tackle, and then walk off the pitch? Hopefully just a precaution - don’t think we are talking months here.
Also, that tackle not even being worthy of a yellow is a disgrace.
Also, that tackle not even being worthy of a yellow is a disgrace.
Yep. It’s clearly not a serious injury given what you both said.
I assume he’s rolled his ankle and suffered a sprain. My estimation would be 2 weeks out.
Carroll went out there looking for rough challenges in the second half, you could see how he was lurking around the pitch like a linebacker, and the blame should be laid fully at his door for the outcome of Eriksen, he should be ashamed.
It would be totally unfair to blame ETH or anyone else for the action of an opposition player who cannot control himself.
It would be totally unfair to blame ETH or anyone else for the action of an opposition player who cannot control himself.
Say something now ten Hag, SAY SOMETHING
Claiming there is a risk in any game and then insinuating risk of injury is not lessened if you are rested in certain games is stupid.
It was a silly game to start him in because 1) it was a mid tier Championship team and 2) he was showing serious burnout (which was just another reason to rest him outside of the crunching tackle event).
We dominated the 45 mins with a fair few chances whilst they only had one touch in the box.
This is a worry. Just hope it's not too bad.
But Fred and McTominay have to step up. They have to.
We soooooo need to add to that midfield.
'.... United have eight games in February, starting Wednesday with the Carabao Cup semifinal second leg against Nottingham Forest. The FA Cup fifth round is pencilled in for March 1, but before then Ten Hag has to deal with five Premier League games, a two-legged Europa League tie against Barcelona and, potentially, the Carabao Cup final. It's a mammoth task when injuries are starting to pile up....' - ESPN
But Fred and McTominay have to step up. They have to.
We soooooo need to add to that midfield.
'.... United have eight games in February, starting Wednesday with the Carabao Cup semifinal second leg against Nottingham Forest. The FA Cup fifth round is pencilled in for March 1, but before then Ten Hag has to deal with five Premier League games, a two-legged Europa League tie against Barcelona and, potentially, the Carabao Cup final. It's a mammoth task when injuries are starting to pile up....' - ESPN
Well we're clearly not buying anyone, so ETH will just have to work some more magic.
He’s naive in regards to thinking he can get away without rotation in the Prem over the long haul.This is hilarious, “Naive”
Yes you’re right, performed like a brand new coach in his career to date with us
ETH being blamed for that cretins awful tackle now I seen it all. This team isn't even close to be capable of resting players.
Hes not being blamed for the tackle. He's being rightly criticised for playing Eriksen in a needless game that would have eliminated this scenario for at least another game.
And the second bit is bollocks, we faced a mid table championship side. Fred or McT, or both were more than capable of starting.
Sorry I don't agree we are having a tough time finishing off games even with our best team on the pitch. Having a 100kg twat running about hacking down players is a problem for the ref, who just had a mare of a game. ETH has found his group and he will stick with them.
I dont think we have a tough time creating chances. And I don't think we would have struggled remotely to put Reading aside if we played Fred for Eriksen yesterday.
No one could look at minute 0 and say "oh damn, Fred Casemiro behind Rashford Weghorst Antony, we might struggle to put this midtable Championship side away"
I don't think anybody is pretending Carroll didn't make the tackle. He is a meat, bellend that probably should have been sent off earlier than he did.
Thing is though, ETH is accountable for putting key players in these games. Most people see these as dead rubber games that could have been won below full strength. ETH doesn't see it that way. He sees the conjested fixture list as an opportunity to reduce the time taken to improve team chemistry and the players understanding of the system. Mainly because we're still new to the system he's trying to introduce and he's willing to risk injuries on this idea. He accepts the injury risk he's taking, even mentioned it, in some many words, in the post match presser himself.
I actually agree with ETH and fully support his approach but what we can't do is pretend he wasn't taking a risk in the first place.
I don’t think you understand what a dead rubber game is.
No it isn't. It's on Andy Carroll.
Hopefully he wont be out for long.
His influence on the team when we have the ball is underrated.
Important player for the manager
His influence on the team when we have the ball is underrated.
Important player for the manager
Conpletely different skillset and not a replacement for eriksen
Well he's going to be fresh for the final phase of the season
Rightly criticised according to you. Then the same people are always first to blame the manager for not starting X or Y when we fail to win. I would guess the plan was to rotate half of team yesterday and another half against Nottingham. I am sure ETH knows better about the condition of the players than anyone here.
When we fail to win? Read the post again, I said before kick off it was abundantly obvious and there were posts in the matchday thread surprised at the choice of Eriksen.
The whole manager knows better than anyone is such a bollocks argument. The best managers in history make mistakes. Ten Hag is doing a terrific job but let's not blow him off to the extent we can't reasonably critique him.
Don't know if you really can blame EtH or fatigue when 193 cm of pure lunacy go berserk in the second half and insanely cut down all of our players in reach.
I think it just highlights that we are in "the process" as EtH often mentions. Our squad is not yet complete and it shows. It was always bound to happen. We still have too many players we simply cannot replace adequately.
I think it just highlights that we are in "the process" as EtH often mentions. Our squad is not yet complete and it shows. It was always bound to happen. We still have too many players we simply cannot replace adequately.
People blaming ETH for playing hin, incredible.
Rest players and then we get beat like we did last year by Middlesbrough! So many people on here really don’t understand the history of the FA Cup and upsets, you play your strongest team!
Using posts in the matchday thread as some sort of evidence of reasonable opinion will never help any argument.
We’ve a match next week where ETH could have probably gone with a weakened midfield. That was always the most sensible game to rest Eriksen. It won’t happen now. Oh well. Shit happens. Last night’s line up for a must win cup game against Championship opposition was just fine. It’s so crazy to me the way people have wiped from their memories how often a team without the likes of Eriksen, Casemiro, Martinez and Varane would lose or draw fixtures like last night. We’ve a great manager now but even he can’t take all our best/most important players out and still cruise to victory. As ETH said, he’s not fecking Harry Potter!
What if he only played Casemiro out of all first team midfielders and then Casey got injured because Andy Caroll is a prick? will he still be naive then? that injury wasn't due to fatigue or forcing Eriksen to play through minor injury, it's beyond the manager's control.
Eriksen's minutes on the pitch are managed well. Since the WC break he played 77, 61, 68, 72, 83, 90 minutes in the league and 83, 57, 30, 71 in cups. People being surprised that someone plays should not matter at all. Injuries happen, we can't wrap everyone in bubble wrap.
It's squarely on Andy Carroll.
I don’t think it matters what Ten Hag does to fans like you, you’re always going to be on his back.
Our line up was way stronger than it needed to be, surely everyone can agree on that. Playing too many games leads to fatigue and injury and also clearly increases risk of being badly injured by a stupid tackle which is exactly what happened last night.
Fellas like Eriksen need to be carefully managed. Playing him when not needed in the middle of an absaloutely ludicrous run of fixtures is not the way to carefully manage such players. Hopefully ETH learns from it.
Fellas like Eriksen need to be carefully managed. Playing him when not needed in the middle of an absaloutely ludicrous run of fixtures is not the way to carefully manage such players. Hopefully ETH learns from it.
Nah this is just daft. Those players won’t be playing midweek this week, 10 days off doesn’t help anyone. Starting them today to leave them out Wednesday was the correct call.
I think Mainoo has been featuring more because of situations like this. I can see him leapfrogging McTominay etc soon
Sure, could have happened in any game. But there's still merit to the argument that ETH could have rested key players (our squad is thin in terms of quality and we may have to prioritise competitions, so if we can't navigate Reading at home with our second string, maybe that's just where we're at).
That being said, this is of course on that thug. That he wasn't sent off back in the day for clearly trying to hospitalise de Gea still makes me angry.
That being said, this is of course on that thug. That he wasn't sent off back in the day for clearly trying to hospitalise de Gea still makes me angry.