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Fair play to Smalling. Deserves criticism for the Kompany goal but got the winner and was generally solid in the second half.

Personally (I've said it already), I'd play Smalling before Bailly every day of the week. He's not world class but he's pretty consistent and that's what you want.
 
I think it's really not that easy to play next to Young there, he is pretty much entire time out of position which is leaving Smalling in no mans land quite often. Young's entire defensive game is all about poor positioning and last ditch tackles.
 
Smalling should have done better for Kompany's goal. In saying that, he's far better than any of our other options in that regard, so nobody else would have done any better (and any of our other options may have done worse at other times as well). He should still have done better though, he started off a bit passive in that movement which allowed Kompany to get that step or two in front of him that he couldn't recover from.

It's basically the same thing as what happened against Liverpool. Kompany and van Dijk are two of the best headers of the ball around (as is Smalling himself). As such it's very unlikely that given enough opportunities that he will be able to win every single time. Likewise at the other end, if we create enough opportunities it's likely that he'll get the better of them at some stage. We saw both today, although for some strange reason it appeared Ottamendi was the one marking him (if that were the case then it was poor organisation by whoever decided that for City).
 
Smalling admitted himself in his post match interview that it was a mistake on his part. Kompany outpowered him - to be fair I think he would have outpowered any of our CBs, but thats besides the point. Smalling himself thinks he should have done better.

But what a finish for his goal, especially considering according to Redcafe, Smalling is a terrible footballer who is just an okay defender. How the hell did he manage to get good contact on that volley then?

Big character from Big Mike.
 
Regardless of his goal did you guys see how comfortable City defender passing the ball around when our players pressing them high?

Smalling shit himself whenever he got pressured, put Young under pressure with his pass, forcing young to either hoof or back pass to De Gea to hoof it as well, we keep losing possession in our half because this guy can't play football, he isn't the defender for team who are in possession.
 
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Scored a goal. Shocking defending for Kompany's goal. Very poor for most of the first half. Not great late on either, as he should be beating Aguero to headers in our box.
 
Scored a goal. Shocking defending for Kompany's goal. Very poor for most of the first half. Not great late on either, as he should be beating Aguero to headers in our box.

I thought for that one it might have been on Bailly. Smalling had just been contesting Jesus for the ball on the edge, won a couple of tackles, ball goes out to the left, swung in and Smalling was just getting back. Aguero drifted off the back of Bailly.
 
Frustrating that he makes the same type of errors on set pieces.

Credit to him for the goal though. Similar to the one he scored in the 3-2 comeback win against City in the Community Shield IIRC
 
Not great late on either, as he should be beating Aguero to headers in our box.
Is that the late one where De Gea saved us? If so, Smalling had moved up aggressively and won two challenges earlier in that move and was having to rush back to cover the attacker who nobody else had bothered moving to cover. Somebody else (not sure who) should have moved into that position when Smalling had stepped out.
 
The Very positive thing about Smalling is that he make amends not by defending better but by scoring goals.
 
Once again conflicting, loses Kompany for the first goal, but then scores a great goal to make up for it, while being solid for the 2nd half.

Smalling can be very good on his day.
 
He got out-muscled for the first goal but other than Fellaini, who would've defended that? Kompany, like Van Dijk/Terry etc is very good and strong attacking set pieces. It was a top delivery too.
 
Regardless of his goal did you guys see how comfortable City defender passing the ball around when our players pressing them high?

Smalling shit himself whenever he got pressured, put Young under pressure with his pass, forcing young to either hoof or back pass to De Gea to hoof it as well, we keep losing possession in our half because this guy can't play football, he isn't the defender for team who are in possession.

Cant play football but was able to win the game for us with our best finish in the game. The state of our fans who cant even appreciate our own players.

You guys are our version of the City fans crying because they didnt get to win the league today
 
Cant play football but was able to win the game for us with our best finish in the game. The state of our fans who cant even appreciate our own players.

You guys are our version of the City fans crying because they didnt get to win the league today

He can't play football in the sense that he is bad with the ball at his feet. He is our worst CB when it comes to ball playing, and that is saying something considering they are all pretty bad at it.

One finish doesn't change that.
 
He can't play football in the sense that he is bad with the ball at his feet. He is our worst CB when it comes to ball playing, and that is saying something considering they are all pretty bad at it.

One finish doesn't change that.

Was the ball at his feet when he scored the winner today?
 
Was the ball at his feet when he scored the winner today?

Has the ball been at his feet the three gazilion times he has refused to play it out from defence and failed to spot or execute a forward pass?

You base your opinion on Smalling's ball playing skills on one finish? I guess Valencia is a great crosser also then, after all he got one assist from a cross this season.
 
Has the ball been at his feet the three gazilion times he has refused to play it out from defence and failed to spot or execute a forward pass?

You base your opinion on Smalling's ball playing skills on one finish? I guess Valencia is a great crosser also then, after all he got one assist from a cross this season.

Many of our players go sideways instead of foreward. Seems bizarre to blame your best CB for that when only 2 or 3 players are always looking forward
 
I don't want to criticize him much after such a goal but yeah he should be a squad player at best next season. His pairing with Bailly is actually not the way forward imo, even though I rate Bailly highly but I don't see them working well together.
 
Many of our players go sideways instead of foreward. Seems bizarre to blame your best CB for that when only 2 or 3 players are always looking forward

Being our best CB has nothing to do with being a good ball playing CB.

Vidic was a great CB, yet Alderweireld is the better ball playing CB. Doesn't change the fact that Vidic was a LOT better than him as a CB though.
 
Being our best CB has nothing to do with being a good ball playing CB.

Vidic was a great CB, yet Alderweireld is the better ball playing CB. Doesn't change the fact that Vidic was a LOT better than him as a CB though.

Yes. And Smalling is one of the best defending CBs in the league.

If Smalling tried more forward passes he's likely to go down from his 85% pass accuracy and give the ball away sometimes. Guess what happens? You and your ilk will come here and say "See, he gives the ball away too much. We need a new CB".

For you, Smalling is damned regardless of what he ever does on the pitch. You've made your mind up. But thats a you problem, not a Chris Smalling problem.
 
Fair play to him, he gave us all a wonderful moment today and I'm grateful for it.
But he still needs to go. Maybe he has been our best centre back this season - but that's the problem: Chris Smalling is our best CB. We'll win nothing major whilst we're in a position where he's a regular starter.
 
Fair play to him, he gave us all a wonderful moment today and I'm grateful for it.
But he still needs to go. Maybe he has been our best centre back this season - but that's the problem: Chris Smalling is our best CB. We'll win nothing major whilst we're in a position where he's a regular starter.
So you'd prefer Lindelöf, Rojo & Jones to stay even though he's been our best center back for years now ? Come on, do you want us to weaken the team just for the sake of getting him sold. Please rethink !
 
Really poor on the first goal, he's terrible at marking on set pieces, can't mark a player unless it involves grabbing the shirt.

Second half much better, didn't shrink and rose to the challenge. Long term I don't want to see him at United, we need to reshape the defence and I'll stand by my comment in the match day thread, he can't get in the England squad so why should he be starting for us long term.
 
Yes. And Smalling is one of the best defending CBs in the league.

If Smalling tried more forward passes he's likely to go down from his 85% pass accuracy and give the ball away sometimes. Guess what happens? You and your ilk will come here and say "See, he gives the ball away too much. We need a new CB".

For you, Smalling is damned regardless of what he ever does on the pitch. You've made your mind up. But thats a you problem, not a Chris Smalling problem.

Yes, I've made up my mind on him not being a good ball playing CB. So have everyone else with a pair of eyes to be fair.

Fairly good pure CB though, but not good enough to lead our defence.
 
If people think we should change him, then we better prepare 3 or 4 more defenders to replace others before him who are far less reliable.
 
Yes, I've made up my mind on him not being a good ball playing CB. So have everyone else with a pair of eyes to be fair.

Fairly good pure CB though, but not good enough to lead our defence.

Neither was Vidic. Great CB though.

Good thing we have at least 1 if not 2 CB positions next to him that could slot a ball playing CB. In fact we have one who was the best ball playing CB in the league in his last season we used him there, Daley Blind. And we have another one we bought in the summer. But he hasnt done much on the ball to suggest he'll be this mythical "ball playing CB" that apparently we need, while everyone else gets by without one.

But the point is, Blind, or Blind and Lindelof at the same time even, could be picked next to Smalling who can cover some of their defensive holes, as well as our fullbacks.

Chris Smalling doesnt need to be a ball playing CB. There's plenty of space alongside him
 
He had a poor first half defensively with a couple of mistakes but we should wake up, there is not a single defender around who wouldn't do a mistake in a game like this against these worldies city have. He then repaid it with a great winning goal. Funny thing was I called it before the free kick, only that he would score with his head but who cares. What a finish, he likes a goal against city. Great quick free kick
 
He is a solid 6 out of 10 defender who has occasional poor moments. He couldn’t get near Kompany, he’s not got near plenty of players he’s been marking over the years, but he is also one of our most reliable defenders.

Ultimately we need a higher standard of defender, but there are other areas that need addressing prior to that.
 
this mythical "ball playing CB" that apparently we need, while everyone else gets by without one.

You are aware that the actuall ball playing CB isn't some mythical creature, but actually something that City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Juventus, Bayern, Real Madrid, Napoli and Barcelona amongst others use, right?
 
Think he’s a bit unlucky on that Kompany goal, he takes his eye off him for half a second and that’s it. He’s touch tight the whole time but Kompany is just too big and strong that Smalling just can’t recover it. Compare it to when he scores when he completely leaves Otamendi for dead. Otamendi has two hands on him then Smallingnis gone and Otamendi is nowhere to be seen.
 
Happy for him he got the winner
But taking out any heat of the moment stuff And now being reflective, he needs to be upgraded on

Don't mind him being in the squad but he should not be a starter for us next season. Don't think he is good enough to be starting majority of our games if we wanna win the league and challenge for champions league
 
Poor first half but an excellent second. Much like the rest of the team really.
 
Cant play football but was able to win the game for us with our best finish in the game. The state of our fans who cant even appreciate our own players.

You guys are our version of the City fans crying because they didnt get to win the league today
Put anyone else in his position and they would score as well , it was perfect ball from Sanchez. Smalling still can't play football , He is liability for our build up play. He saw opposition player came pressing him and shits himself all the time , it's not just against City , it's also against anyone else. I will only use him as squad player next season when we need to see the game out which Jose planning to do since he is gonna buy a CB
 
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Smalling should have done better for Kompany's goal. In saying that, he's far better than any of our other options in that regard, so nobody else would have done any better (and any of our other options may have done worse at other times as well). He should still have done better though, he started off a bit passive in that movement which allowed Kompany to get that step or two in front of him that he couldn't recover from.

It's basically the same thing as what happened against Liverpool. Kompany and van Dijk are two of the best headers of the ball around (as is Smalling himself). As such it's very unlikely that given enough opportunities that he will be able to win every single time. Likewise at the other end, if we create enough opportunities it's likely that he'll get the better of them at some stage. We saw both today, although for some strange reason it appeared Ottamendi was the one marking him (if that were the case then it was poor organisation by whoever decided that for City).

I agree Smalling is by far the better header of the ball we have, that does not mean our other CBs would have 'surely' lost that header against Kompany today. Its basic stuff not to allow opponent header to come in front of you, and Smalling did. He had to anticipate Kompany is going to make a run, and had to make sure kompany dint get ahead of him. It was not a case of strength to strength header, but more of a positioning issue. If we had other CB there, maybe they could have done better.

Lets say Smalling can win 8/10 headers in the box but Rojo can win only 6/10 headers, that does not mean the 2 headers that Smalling lost will 'surely' be lost by Rojo.
 
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