Where have I said I'm an expert on Hummels?
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 29
- Clean sheets
- 8
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 3
- Red cards
- 1
I only speak in fact.You didn't say "in my opinion"
Seems everybody's opinions in here are facts.
Great game for Smalling the other day. Dominant in the air, as usual, and his distribution on the ball was very good too. I guess it's him and Jones competing for the RCB role, while Rojo and Evans compete for LCB.
That's Rojo's position to lose, in my opinion. Evans has been so underwhelming this season.
Maybe you missed my point, as I'm missing yours.
And no it's not all about opinions, as facts should always have a part in any discussion.
When discussing someone's form it's all about opinions, facts don't come into it as a players form and ability is simply to hard to prove as fact. For example, stats can be used to back up your opinion but stats don't paint the entire picture, they can be misleading and give a false impression on a players form.
If a forward has a really poor game but scores a last minute winner the opinion on him will change massively, likewise if a defender is having a fantastic game but makes an error that results in a conceded goal, he will go from fantastic to shit in a matter of seconds.
For me, Rojo is our best defender, for others Smalling, who I think is overrated on here, again, that's down to my opinion.
By the way I think Smalling is a good defender but I reckon he's not in LVG plans.
Why not? He's been very good this season outside of injuries and that City game. He's been much better than Evans who looks more in danger of leaving this club before any other CB
I don't know to be honest, it's just a feeling I have, nothing more.
He has been better than Evans I agree, but not as good as Jones or Rojo. Smalling was dropped (he wasn't injured) for the last couple of games, considering the importance of those games can't be a good sign. As I said it's nothing more than a feeling, in truth, with the exception of Rojo I don't think any of our CBs are safe.
I don't think any of them are 100% save for Rojo simply because he's LVG's signing. If Rojo was as bad as Evans he'd still be assured of at least one more season. I wouldn't look much into Smalling being dropped for Jones. Smalling was doing well until he got injured. Jones came in and did a good job and LVG had no reason to drop him for a player working his way back to fitness. Now that Smalling is fully fit LVG will have a selection headache because Smalling and Rojo are clearly United's best pairing in a back four, they were immense during the balk of our winning run.
Bit of a one sided battle that tbh
Haha. I expect Evans to be replaced by an LCB next season; preferably Hummels.
Not sure this is right. He must have had a knock against QPR when he was swapped for Evans after the warm up. Evans himself got injured that game and we moved to a back 4. Jones and Rojo kept their place in the games that followed when we continued with a 4.
I've heard this from posters several times now, but where has this theory that he was injured in the warm up come from? There was no mention of it from LVG before or after the match or from any media outlet from what I can tell. Further, if he was injured why would he be on the bench?
If I've missed something then I apologise.
Because he was in the submitted starting lineup and then wasnt its a fair assumption that he picked up a niggle in the warmup.
That doesn't answer the question as to why he was on the bench. If your injured your injured.
Edit: it's much more likely that the wrong information was given out in the first instance in regards to the starting 11
Probably a minor niggle that they didn't wanna risk unless in the case of emergency
Does that sound like something LVG would do? We had McNair on the bench and Carrick and Blind starting which is more than enough cover. He was dropped, it's that simple IMO.
Does it sound more plausible that someone as meticulous as Van Gaal after preparing his side all week for a game and deciding on his starting 11 would have a last minute change of heart after his team has been named and decide that he wants to play the struggling Evans instead of Chris Smalling despite Smalling being 100% fit.
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He got injured in QPR warmup, was not ready for Cambridge and then Jones continued to play against Leicester because he was doing alright.
At a Q&A for manutd.com both Young and Wilson said Shaw and Smalling were the fastest players at the club. Wilson and Young also got a mention, from both.
Heck I remembered the papers and fans writing off Jaap Stam in his 1st half season at Man Utd, saying that he's a flop for the then transfer-record sum of money that Man Utd paid for him.
ok maybe you havent but you rediculed my statement that smalling has put in better performances in the last 18 months. If you think that is totally incorrect you most have seen Hummels play really well quite often??? Or are you just basing your opinion of Hummels being better on the fact the media say we want him for £35m and in thruth you have never seen him play for dortmund in the last 18 months?
Hummels won the World Cup in what is a fantastic German team, on the other hand Smalling can't get into a shit England team that walked away from the World Cup bottom of the group with 1 point.
Yes his standards have slipped this season but that's to be expect given his injuries and the shit form of his team. A quick google brings up that last season when he played in the team they averaged 2.4 points per game and 1.4 when he didn't. They also conceded a goal every 95 minutes with him in the team and 65 when he wasn't.
Put it this way, if Hummels was to go on general sale the majority of big Clubs would be interested and he would have anywhere between £30-40 million price tag, Chris Smalling on the other hand, at best £10-15 million. Or ask any football fan anywhere who they would rather have in their team and I’m certain the result would be a landslide in favour of Hummels. You really have red tinted glasses on if you think Smalling has had a better 18 months than Hummels.
You say he’s meticulous yet claim he would put an injured player on the bench?
It was an away game, he'd bought a set number of players in our match-day squad. Where else would Smalling sit other than on the bench?
You don’t think he would bring additional players in case a player(s) got injured pre match?
Team success means nothing on personal performances. United have have won league titles with players putting in poor performances.
I honestly couldnt care less about stats......you can find stats that show most players to be world beaters and then another set of stats show them to be non league players.
Also this general sale nonsense......again, who cares. We would never have got £10m had Michael Carrick gone on general sale, he couldnt get in the england side for Gareth Barry. However, over the last 7 years there arent many, if any of the same type of player that Carrick is that i would rather have. If you said to the majority "who would you rather have Michael Carrick or Johnny Foreigner" then the majority on here would prefer carrick replaced by J. Foreigner for £40m. Even though he isnt a better footballer, they have barley seen him play but just because he has a better sounding name and the media, football manager etc says he's brilliant.
We will have to agree to disagree on this as once again i will reaffirm that i have seen Chris Smalling but in considerably better performances than Matts Hummels in the last 18 months. Of course my viewing of hummels has been limited but everytime ive seen him he looks slow, clumbersome and an average at best defender - i think Owen Hargreaves said similar recently and he probs see's more german football than me.
Also....smalling isnt allowed the excuse of injuries and shit form of the team so nor should Hummels. In fact you kind of rubbish your own argument with that statement.........he won the world cup in an excellant germany team but he hasnt been good when dortmund have been rubbish! Makes him sound a passenger.......we have plenty of them....we need a leader
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I don't think so, no.
Team success means nothing? Come on FFS, each players contributes to the team’s success, the fact that Hummels can get into the best international team in the World should tell you all you need to know. Smalling can’t even get into the England side on a permanent basis.
I agree with you about stats, they can be misleading and very rarely tell the full story on a player’s performance or ability, but the difference between points scored and goals conceded when Hummels plays can’t be ignored.
You seem to be dismissing everything as nonsense, you don’t think a player’s value should be considered when discussing each players worth to the team? How exactly? How else do you value a players worth other than his performances on the pitch?
Well thats some shit management right there.
Not really, no. I mean, where do you draw the line? Bring down a match-day squad, plus one spare player for each of them in case one of them gets a niggle walking off the bus?
The way I understand it works would be that you bring a squad of fully fit players. On the very rare occasion one of them breaks down in the warm-up, you'll have enough depth in that squad to cope.
Of course not, but it would be a sensible thing to do to have two or three players on standby. Say our front two was Rooney and RVP with Falcao on the bench, any manager worth his salt would have another forward on standby (in case RVP, Rooney or Falcao got injured pre match) Same can be said for the back four, or midfield. I’d be very surprised if this wasn’t the case, especially when you take into account our injury record.
Aren't the 18 players already submitted, at the time of the warm up ?
I think you can alter it in case of an injury.
You didn't say "in my opinion"
Have you been watching The Good Wife?
I've heard of players being put on the bench plenty of times for away games having not been in the 18. From the little I know we bring a squad of 18 with a player or two on standy?