What about Azpilcueta? Seems there's a bit of unrest behind the scenes?
Chelsea under Conte | Let's sign the next Hazard, literally.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
What about Azpilcueta? Seems there's a bit of unrest behind the scenes?
If Montella doesn't get A.C. Milan up and running this season, I'm almost certain that job is Conte's to take, without a doubt.
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Yeah, I agree with this guy. TBH, I don't think Conte will be there for 50 years, that's for sure.
You know, the best thing about all these rumours of drama and discontent behind the scenes is the context it gives to Mourinho's own implosion. If things really do go spectacularly tits up under Conte the very next season after winning the league it will confirm that Chelsea is a uniquely difficult and toxic environment for any manager to work. Which will be hugely reassuring to those of us worried about Mourinho's current job following a similar cycle to his last.
It will confirm what we have already guessed since the first time Jose left in 2007.
How many times have we seen this reckless, insane behavior by Chelsea's high-ups? What manager has been allowed to flourish there for more than a few seasons? Conte just won the league with a record number of wins and second-highest points total ever and Chelsea's only response is to give speculation that his days could be numbered? It's like Real Madrid dare I say. In the current situation no man can be greater than Abramovich, everyone else is in danger of his axe if he isn't worshiped as the demi-god he thinks he is. And it seems as if Conte didn't want to sell Matic - so the decision to sell which I think will come back to bite Chelsea on the bum will be pushed aside to take the blame off Roman. He needs a scapegoat, the manager is always the first to blame in his book.
And for Conte's sake, don't put your job on the line over this rift with Costa. That's not the hill you want to die on, not over some pampered, diving, arrogant diva.
Conte: "All these red cards are very strange".
Exactly! Coincidentally (or not) the only other real blot on Mourinho's cv, in terms of being a manager capable of running a club without falling out with everyone around him.
I have always been very sceptical of Abrahmovic right from his land grab attempt from the CPO, the firing of Mourinho in 2015 and to using the club as a front for a player trading operation which otherwise would be illegal per UEFA rules.
Its fair enough that he has brought a lot of success to the club over the last decade but in todays times, he offers neither the crazy money nor the ownership acumen to run a club of this size.
Err what? The club does something perfectly legal under UEFA rules, but it would be illegal if they didn't follow the rules?
Sure, he's just buying us a half a billion pound stadium and buying players like Morata. Clearly he's half arsing the job..
He is financially profiting from the purchase and sale of players which will never see the inside of a Chelsea kit in their lives. How is it any different from what Kia Joorabchian used to do before it was banned by UEFA. Emenalo and Piet De Visser are just another Joorabchian like operation operating under the Chelsea umbrella to make their activities legal on technicalities.
All that is just increasing his equity in the holding so how does it matter? Infact as I have mentioned earlier, a stadium development at this time is going to have a massive negative impact on the club football wise. It will just serve to further increase the value of Fordstam's equity holding and nothing more. We will never gain any advantage from the increased stadium revenues since the finances of football continue to move further and further away from the match going supporter anyway.
He didn't even fall out with Perez. Florentino loves him and wanted him back. It's just his situation with Ramos and co was untenable. Spanish press and public would crucify Florentino if he'd have chosen Jose over Ramos and Saint Iker.
Somebody give Rory a shovel so he can dig himself out of that sh!t he's talking.
Right, let me just ask you one simple question: Do you genuinely think Abramovich bought Chelsea to try and make money?
Make money is a very very vague term in the murky world of real money...
He's a massive football fan. He's spent about a billion playing his own version of Football Manager, and he attends most games and watches with the same intensity and emotion as the rest of us. If it was a business scheme to him, then I'm fairly sure he wouldn't have wasted every Saturday during the season for the last 14 or so years sitting spectating.
No. Not in 2003 and not till say 2011-12. But that's the thing with plans/intentions they change with time.
When he bought Chelsea, it was worth a measly 1% of his vast fortune. Now though, its worth 20% on his slightly limited net-worth. Any reasonable person will start to think of that 20% as an asset rather than just a hobby. Its the way people work from the poorest to the richest.
Jose once mentioned that he binge watches football from all leagues over the entire weekend anyways. So I wouldn't read too much into him being in the stands regularly.
He's one of Putins closest confidants, I'm fairly sure he's not worried about going broke.
Which basically just proves my point. That he's a massive football fan.
You seem to be pretty Naive about Romans worth (both financially and his value to Russia and Putin) and his motivations.
It could be Juve again, mixed feelings tbh, the man didn't change much since last time together.
I thought it would improve after Terry left; clearly not. But then it seems more than just players being eejits this time.
So are liverpool fans. But they would like to see the Bridge burn down. How does that matter? He watches football on the weekends regardless.
As for his finances, if the same trajectory (of PL finances and Russian economy) continues. Chelsea might soon be half of his net worth. They he would be no different than say Kroenke and would be seeking an income stream from the club.
I think it's pretty obvious what he meant - and given Conte's history and Chelsea's management over the last decade it's hard to argue with.
Besides, I like Rory - he's a good writer and a decent pundit
Sorry, not interested in bizarre attacks on the guy who enabled our club to reach its first title in 50 years and to the very top of European football.
Sure. But if spending that 1 billion allows him to make make more elsewhere, or legitimatizes his other 9 billion (for example, as I do not claim to have full knowledge of his other business dealings), it could still be a net gain despite not making $ from Chelsea.
Ultimately, my view is that the truth is it's somewhere in between. It could be genuinely a hobby for him, but at the same time businessmen do not lose billion for no good reason.
His investment in the UK helps to make him more respectable, and more difficult to bump off because of the publicity Chelsea gives him. I suspect he feels safer in the UK rather than in his own country. An interesting question now is the recent split with his wife and how that will play out on his fortune.
There is no doubt investing in football has been a learning lesson for him and he now realises just throwing money at players and managers will not guarantee success at the top level. He now treats it like a business.
40m for Drinkwater...
Are people still going to pretend the club didn't want to keep the superior Matic now?!
Are people still going to pretend the club didn't want to keep the superior Matic now?!
Youre acting like a child and youre beyond ignorant for the matters of your own owner.
Ok. I was replying to someone elses post anyways. Maybe try not starting an argument the next time if things get under yer skin like that.
You quoted mine. As for getting under my skin, its more than it just confuses me. We have a chairman who has done more for our club than any other individual in our history, and you just seem to want to stick the boot in. I don't get it.
Because billionaires never have prenups..
No doubt of the thing you just made up? Ok.
Wrong.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/che...rs-of-discontent.417928/page-55#post-21343492
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/che...rs-of-discontent.417928/page-55#post-21343508
I don't think you grasped my first post al all. Once again, I am happy for all that was done in the first decade under Abrahmovic. The improvements have stalled over the last 5 seasons (there is a strong case to say we have regressed a bit) and there is a strong case to say we will be going backwards over the next few seasons if it goes on like this.
Right, in the last 5 years we've only won the league twice, the league cup and the UEFA cup. Extend it to 6 years and you can add in the Champions League and an FA cup. It's hardly like we're battling relegation ffs. You do recall that we're currently champions of England right?
Not correct. His total investment in Chelsea (including upfront purchase, the debts he took over, investment in players and infrastructure since 2003) alltotal up to about £1.1bn Chelsea is (as of 2017) valued at £1.45bn. This makes it a notional (excluding time value) profit of £350m on the total investment.