Chelsea transfer activity

Don't think you should sign a striker just yet myself, it would be a pretty stupid purchase considering the cost of Cavani or Falcao when you have other areas which are far more in need of an upgrade.

Spending 40million on Falcao would completely end hope of Torres having a sucessful career at Chelsea IMO. Seeing as you play one upfront then there isn't room for two 'first choice' strikers, it would blatantly be Falcao and I can't see Torres sticking around to be a back up. Also, what was the point of spending £19million on Lukaku if you aren't going to introduce him to the first team? He needs games otherwise he'll just stall. The way Fergie played Jones, Smalling and Welbeck in recent years is how you develop a player. Lukaku won't get any better just sitting in the reserves, and given the outlay I'd be wary of writing him off just yet.

After 18 months our patience with Torres is wearing thin, In Drogba, Anelka and Kalou leaving we would be reliant on a full Torres revival to carry us which is a scenario I doubt anybody would put all the chips on with good reason. I hear what you say about Lukaku though he is still a teenager and won't break into the team proper for some yet, should Torres go that would leave Chelsea with a new striker, Sturridge and Lukaku which I think would suit him fine.


Having said that, Falcao would be absolutely perfect for Chelsea IMO, if you upgrade your wingers. He's lethal in the air so could follow on from Drogba in that respect and would allow you to carry on attacking down the flanks. I think you'd need to offload Torres first though.

The wings is where you need to improve and the reason for your poor season is because of the lack of wingers IMO. Sticking Mata out on the left was just a waste of his talent, and also he didn't even play as a winger anyway he kept coming infield which just made you very narrow and easy to defend against. Marin could prove good on the left, and if you match that with a good right winger who can likewise stretch the pitch then you would be in great shape, as it would give Mata the room to work in the middle at the tip of the midfield three, whilst maintaining a threat on the flanks.


I completely agree in that we urgently require a presence on our flanks though this is a less urgent concern as far as I am concerned relative to our lack of goals in the last 18 months and the deterioration of our midfield. As I said in the OP it is the one thing we have lacked consistently over the last decade though when we did possess it we won the title though we also had a solid side across the pitch on those three occasions.

No doubt many of our strikers have suffered through a lack of service though they have struggled anyway, it is resoundingly clear all too often that issues surrounding the lack of form of Torres are his own. Considering we have signed two young, promising wingers on the left you'd assume that is that side settled and that the right will be dealt with also.


Would Torres be open to returning to Atletico?

Would Robben even consider returning to the club that dropped him in favor of Malouda?

On the first point media speculation says so though over the last four weeks the media has reported on just about every possibility, having said that Atletico is supposedly still close to his heart. We didn't let Robben go in favour of Malouda, we let him go as for over 18 months he was unsettled and lost his way in English football.


Don't tell me the lad is going to end up doing a Katuka.

On Kakuta he has just finished a very encouraging loan spell in Ligue 1 at Dijon, playing most games, scoring and assisting on top of that playing centrally. I could see him floating around the first team squad as an option to fill the place of Mata though given the emergence of Lucas Piazon his window of opportunity is closing quickly.

With McEachran we have no worries really, he turned 19 only recently and when he did play at Swansea as rare as that was he played very well. If he had been able to do what Sturridge had done at Bolton last year then he could well be forcing himself into first team reckoning around now, if we didn't sign Modric or someone of his ilk we have enough confidence in him to come in and out of the side with regularlity this season though I doubt that we won't buy someone.



I definitely think an expensive striker will come in and Drogba will leave, Hulk and Cavani seem the big options but I wouldn't be surprised to see Chelsea move for Llorente.

Given the expendeture on a striker I would be surprised if Roman dropped another £35-40M on a CM. I could see him going for someone like M'Vila or Cabaye though, while moving on Essien and maybe Lampard.

With Marin and De Bryune already signed and Mata and Sturridge capable of playing wide I don't see another winger being bought, unless a punt is taken on Hoiltett for free.

As for right back, what happened to all the interest in Van Der Wiel?

Llorente is a good shout though I think you could toss a coin between half a dozen such strikers that we could zero in on in the very near future, no doubt we're sounding a very long list of candidates out though I wouldn't be saddened if he were one of them.

Marin and De Bruyne are both very encouraging indeed though they are both left wingers whilst Sturridge has played on the right flank though more in the vein of a wide forward, he struggled with regard to winger duties so I cannot see us going another season of hashing it on that side. We may not go for a big spend in this area, ala the two on the left but I am certainly we will get someone.

I could see this being a £100 million gross spend summer to finance moves for four key players and if necessary Torres and perhaps Essien be sold to lessen the burden of that which I am sure is frustrating as Kalou and Bosingwa will walk out the door for nothing at all. Last summer we were clearly in for Modric and in January were allegedly so for Willian on top of all our other spending since the beginning of last year so I cannot see us going for lesser targets due to lesser spending.

Van der Wiel is a very good shout, I doubt he'd come in for much less than £15 million which may be off putting.
 
ive been told that chelsea are too sign hulk in the beginning of june for £35m; if that is the case then he could certainly he a very tasty player for you.

Who told you this?
 
ive been told that chelsea are too sign hulk in the beginning of june for £35m; if that is the case then he could certainly he a very tasty player for you.

Honestly, this is starting to really take the piss now.
 
I think that you definitely need some new changes as you have said. A quality central midfielder is desperately needed. Your midfield at the moment often looks lethargic with players like Lampard in it. Ramires is probably your only top quality midfielder at the moment, so you could do with spending big on a new one.

Plenty of players will have to be phased out, so I think it may be time to say goodbye to Terry, Lampard and Drogba. Terry is a controversial one, but I honestly don't see what he offers. He'll only cause internal problems in the dressing room. He's not good enough to be starting for you if you want to challenge for the league again, but he's not going to add much behind the scenes in my opinion. It can be said that keeping older players can be helpful because of what players like Giggs and Scholes have offered here, but those were completely different situations, as the two players I mentioned don't have too much influence on the dressing room for it to be dangerous, and they were able to keep their quality as well.

That means that you have a decision to make at the back. Do you persist with Luiz and Cahill, assuming that Luiz will continue to improve, or do you fork out on a new centre back? It's a difficult one. There's no debate about right back as you said though. You definitely need someone new there.

Personally, I don't think you should get a new forward. Even if Torres doesn't improve, I think next season could be big for Sturridge and Lukaku. Sturridge, in the earlier parts, was playing very well. I think Lukaku really does have the potential to be a world class forward, but he just hasn't got a look in for the first team at all, and I don't know why. He really could be top class in my opinion.
 
Who told you this?

i live in cobham (where chelsea players live / train ).

1 of my best friends is very good mates with a certain ex chelsea reserve player who got fired recently for a disciplinary issue.

He knows the guys agent and has been told by him that chelsea are well into discussions with Hulk and its just a formality of when and where rather than how much.

Of course you can only take it with a pinch of salt as usual but i didnt even ask him, he text me saying straight up "were signing hulk".

Of course it could all turn out too be crap but im not saying its gospel, just telling him what i have been told.
 
i live in cobham (where chelsea players live / train ).

1 of my best friends is very good mates with a certain ex chelsea reserve player who got fired recently for a disciplinary issue.

He knows the guys agent and has been told by him that chelsea are well into discussions with Hulk and its just a formality of when and where rather than how much.

Of course you can only take it with a pinch of salt as usual but i didnt even ask him, he text me saying straight up "were signing hulk".

Of course it could all turn out too be crap but im not saying its gospel, just telling him what i have been told.

Hulk to Chelsea in various forms is almost two years old. If you people are going to make shit up could you at least use your fecking imagination?
 
Hulk to Chelsea in various forms is almost two years old. If you people are going to make shit up could you at least use your fecking imagination?
C'mon Moses he's yong 'n' learnin'. He doesn't have the history of my mother's hairdresser's boyfriend is an ITK and he sez...
 
Hulk to Chelsea in various forms is almost two years old. If you people are going to make shit up could you at least use your fecking imagination?

Sure hes been linked to lots of clubs.

I guess we can only wait and see; i have no reason to make any of this up, but i understand why you get annoyed with everybody thinking they know something.

Anyway i guess we will see by the end of the june what happens.

(i would rather have known some inside info on utd though) :lol:
 
Don't think you should sign a striker just yet myself, it would be a pretty stupid purchase considering the cost of Cavani or Falcao when you have other areas which are far more in need of an upgrade.

Spending 40million on Falcao would completely end hope of Torres having a sucessful career at Chelsea IMO. Seeing as you play one upfront then there isn't room for two 'first choice' strikers, it would blatantly be Falcao and I can't see Torres sticking around to be a back up. Also, what was the point of spending £19million on Lukaku if you aren't going to introduce him to the first team? He needs games otherwise he'll just stall. The way Fergie played Jones, Smalling and Welbeck in recent years is how you develop a player. Lukaku won't get any better just sitting in the reserves, and given the outlay I'd be wary of writing him off just yet.

Having said that, Falcao would be absolutely perfect for Chelsea IMO, if you upgrade your wingers. He's lethal in the air so could follow on from Drogba in that respect and would allow you to carry on attacking down the flanks. I think you'd need to offload Torres first though.

The wings is where you need to improve and the reason for your poor season is because of the lack of wingers IMO. Sticking Mata out on the left was just a waste of his talent, and also he didn't even play as a winger anyway he kept coming infield which just made you very narrow and easy to defend against. Marin could prove good on the left, and if you match that with a good right winger who can likewise stretch the pitch then you would be in great shape, as it would give Mata the room to work in the middle at the tip of the midfield three, whilst maintaining a threat on the flanks.

Given that you only play one striker you can't afford to have a narrow pitch, because the fullbacks can tuck in and the two centre halves can double up on the striker. This season that's what seemed to be happening at times, Mata would be infield and there was just no where to go upfront, unless it was an exceptional pass. You don't even really play with midfield runners anymore like you did under Mourinho with Lampard, so there was no threat from deep looking to break through the defense and offer an attacking option. Obviously you've changed formation since then slightly to take that into account, with more of a 4-2-3-1 now compared to the 4-5-1 previously. But Mata won't offer a threat in behind the defense, he'll be the one threading passes and through balls. So, that means you need to stretch the pitch and have a threat on the wings, which at the moment you don't have.

If Marin is a success and you sign a good right winger, Robben I think has stalled on contract talks IIRC, then you'll be a threat next season. Mikel has improved massively in the last few months, against Barca he was immense and if he partnered Ramires you would have a very defensively solid and imposing midfield. For example you could end up starting with this if you sign Robben,

--- Ramires--- Mikel---
Robben--Mata-- Marin
--------Torres-----

That to me is a very decent team offensively, whilst still being solid in the middle. If you managed to sell Torres and bought Falcao, it would become immense, but like I said I think the wings is your first priority IMO.

Spot on for me, good post.

It's a fascinating one for Chelsea this season as there's an extra dimension thrown in regarding the manager - for example, if Capello takes over then they might be looking at reverting to 4-4-2 again, which would obviously change everything again.

I reckon the formation posted above is perfect for Chelsea though, and when you consider that they have Essien, Meireles, Sturridge, Lampard, Malouda/Kalou and Lukaku/Drogba in reserve then there's some serious strength in depth there.

Wingers is really what they should be looking at, and not the Mata type who likes coming inside - they could do with two wingers to sit right out on the sideline and stretch the game constantly, a Valencia type for each wing. I don't know anything about Marin to be honest, he might be that type of player, but they could definitely do with one more too.

I'd also be considering bringing Courtois into the fold from the beginning of next year and trying to use a bit of competition for places to coax the best form out of Cech again.

I don't rate Sturridge at all either, he does the wrong thing 90% of the time and he isn't good enough the other 10% to put up with it. Depending on players coming in, I'd consider loaning him to another PL side where he could get experience playing up front.

It also really is high time to phase Lampard out - it's a sorry state of affairs for England that he's still in and around the starting team for country but a strong manager is needed at Chelsea that can phase him out without angering the Terry/Lampard/Cole mafia.

Chelsea have been relatively quiet so far this summer in terms of speculation, seems that they're no longer automatically linked with everyone like they had been in the past as previously they would have been front and centre in being linked with the likes of Hazard. I have a feeling they've something up their sleeves though, and would definitely expect some serious money thrown in this summer.

It will be hilarious if all their transfer activity is completed before getting a manager in though, another case of Roman thinking he knows best regarding players and then blaming the manager when it all goes tits up.
 
Only up to a point. If they don't have CL football to offer next season they'll struggle to attract the very best players.

It turns out, we will be able to offer CL football next season.

There's a certain club though which as a result of our win, will struggle to keep their very best players.
 
It's bad enough that you'd scab your way into the Champions League ahead of a real football club that deserved that spot, and even worse that you'd then gloat about it. Making me feel sorry for Glaston, however, is beyond the fecking pale.
 
Llorente is a good shout though I think you could toss a coin between half a dozen such strikers that we could zero in on in the very near future, no doubt we're sounding a very long list of candidates out though I wouldn't be saddened if he were one of them.

Marin and De Bruyne are both very encouraging indeed though they are both left wingers whilst Sturridge has played on the right flank though more in the vein of a wide forward, he struggled with regard to winger duties so I cannot see us going another season of hashing it on that side. We may not go for a big spend in this area, ala the two on the left but I am certainly we will get someone.

I could see this being a £100 million gross spend summer to finance moves for four key players and if necessary Torres and perhaps Essien be sold to lessen the burden of that which I am sure is frustrating as Kalou and Bosingwa will walk out the door for nothing at all. Last summer we were clearly in for Modric and in January were allegedly so for Willian on top of all our other spending since the beginning of last year so I cannot see us going for lesser targets due to lesser spending.

Van der Wiel is a very good shout, I doubt he'd come in for much less than £15 million which may be off putting.

If Llorente or one of the others touted comes in are you expecting Torres to leave to free up the space and keep Drogba one more season? or the other way around? I think Cavani is the closest you will get to a direct replacement for your talisman.

Hasn't Ramirez worked quite well on the right for you at times this season? although it does seem you lack a specialist out there, not really sure who fits the bill, maybe Krasic? he seems to be on the move this summer.

After what happened last night and the things Modric has been saying coupled with the interest last summer, I think you may well be right about going back in for him, but if not you have the resources to go for M'Vila, Sahin, Strootman or Herrara just name a few.

£15M for a player his age in this climate isn't that big of an overkill IMO.
 
It turns out, we will be able to offer CL football next season.

There's a certain club though which as a result of our win, will struggle to keep their very best players.
We may sell Modric, but probably not any our other best players.

And if any Modric cash is spent wisely then Spurs can emerge with a better squad than in the season just finished ... so I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs again finish above Chelski next season.
 
We may sell Modric, but probably not any our other best players.

And if any Modric cash is spent wisely then Spurs can emerge with a better squad than in the season just finished ... so I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs again finish above Chelski next season.

Hello, Glaston.

Chelsea will buy Modric.

Bale will go next summer.

You won't finish in the top 4.

Redknapp's fecked because he only wanted and cared for the England job.

Have a nice summer. :smirk:
 
A good pal of mine who's a Chelsea fan (I know.... I know....) seems to feel that Cheik Tiote will be a Chelsea target this summer with Michael Essien on his way out.

Don't know if there's any truth in it but it got me to thinking that we could use a tough tackling no-nonsense midfielder in that mould.
 
A good pal of mine who's a Chelsea fan (I know.... I know....) seems to feel that Cheik Tiote will be a Chelsea target this summer with Michael Essien on his way out.

Don't know if there's any truth in it but it got me to thinking that we could use a tough tackling no-nonsense midfielder in that mould.

Na they've got Romeu and Mikel for that job.

There midfield is fine really, they need a RB and a winger
 
Hello, Glaston.

Chelsea will buy Modric.

Bale will go next summer.

You won't finish in the top 4.

Redknapp's fecked because he only wanted and cared for the England job.

Have a nice summer. :smirk:
Modric may well be sold, but probably not to Chelsea.

As for top 4, we've achieved that twice now in the last three seasons, so I won't be surprised to see us do it again this coming season.
 
We may sell Modric, but probably not any our other best players.

And if any Modric cash is spent wisely then Spurs can emerge with a better squad than in the season just finished ... so I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs again finish above Chelski next season.

This is what people have been saying for two seasons. Get rid of him, cash in and spend wisely and it could prove a good move.
 
Modric may well be sold, but probably not to Chelsea.

As for top 4, we've achieved that twice now in the last three seasons, so I won't be surprised to see us do it again this coming season.

Who else to if not Chelski? I doubt anyone is going to pay £35m for him other than them I doubt Real are interested, though I am sure United are.
 
Never would have imagined that San Paulo could afford to turn down that amount of money. It seems a pretty reasonable fee to be fair, can't imagine many teams would pay much higher than that.
 
I strongly suspect that Hazard will be the first of several outstanding signings. Pep as manager too.
 
Well they must think FFP won't work then. I really am interested to see what happens to City and Chesea and if UEFA decide to enforce the rules.
 
So...

Hazard was not a player on my thoughts for Chelsea this summer but I'll very gladly take him. With regard to how good he'll be in England time will tell but the benefit of him going to Chelsea is he can create more 'added value' there given our weaknesses on the flanks and in providing creativity more generally.

It also gives us a sense into how Chelsea will look next year, this will probably force Mata out to the left with Hazard through the centre whilst the rumours about Hulk seem to be getting stronger and stronger. It might also confirm issues surrounding our strikeforce I might mean Torres will remain as our firm choice upfront, there is a big difference between struggling to score when you have the likes of Kalou and Malouda servicing you compared to Mata and Hazard.

Even though I am a fan of Cavani I would be confident going into the season with Torres, Sturridge and Lukaku considering how our supporting options for them are shaping up, perhaps bringing in a fourth striker but not a world renowned one though of course I wouldn't say no.
 
Well they must think FFP won't work then. I really am interested to see what happens to City and Chesea and if UEFA decide to enforce the rules.

I saw a quote attributed to Ron Gourlay, our CEO, the other day saying that our champions league win is worth hundreds of millions to us in the medium term and as such we can afford to splash out.

He is obviously expecting a big markup in sponsorship deals and merchandising abroad - we just signed an Audi deal like the one you have at Old Trafford and our deal with Samsung is nearly up.
 
So seems like Chelski will probably be able to challenge for the title again next year.
Will make the PL even more interesting. :devil:
 
One thing to remember is that Hazard said his new team will be allowing him to play the number 10 role. So thats Hazard behind a striker, Mata will be on the wing. I guess Marin will compete with Sturridge for the other wing and then theres the issue of Chelsea's striker.
 
So seems like Chelski will probably be able to challenge for the title again next year.
Will make the PL even more interesting. :devil:

Steady on. Long way still to go for Chelsea before they are near the top 2.
 
One thing to remember is that Hazard said his new team will be allowing him to play the number 10 role. So thats Hazard behind a striker, Mata will be on the wing. I guess Marin will compete with Sturridge for the other wing and then theres the issue of Chelsea's striker.

That assumes we don't do anything on the right, I think over the last seven days or so speculation over us and Hulk has reached a there is no smoke without fire situation, this combined with a lack of speculation in recent weeks over a central striker and reported claims that Torres is to remain key all fits together.

Though any hypothesis you could draw is based on very little at this stage.