mu4c_20le
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Genuinely thought that was the new career mode in FC 25
I agree with you. I was willing to give this ownership a chance in 2022 and 2023 and I spent a lot of time trying to contextualise their actions, hoping I would start seeing the beginnings of whatever the feck they’re trying to accomplish. We’re going into our 3rd season and I’ve realised I just fundamentally don’t agree with their ‘plan’ for my club.
The jigsaw puzzle in questionFelix looking like a done deal. The missing part of the jigsaw, it'll all come together now.
This one fits a bit better if you ask me:
https://www.clearlyimpossiblepuzzle.com/
So they wanted Omorodion but after that failed their next target just happened to also be an Atletico player? Completely different profiles of player from what I can see.
Is this anything other than Chelsea needing to give Atletico money for someone so they can afford Gallagher? It’s so fecking weird.
Are you for real? You seriously think Jackson is a decent striker?
Joao Felix is a wildly bizarre signing. Smacks of desperation to make to books work, and that Chelsea have gotten themselves into a situation where they have to make big money pointless signings so that they don't get into FFP trouble is a huge indictment on the management at that club. Imagine they spent all those billions on buying readymade players, they could winning titles which would have been significantly more lucrative for the owner than this buying young / selling young model that they've gone for.
So they wanted Omorodion but after that failed their next target just happened to also be an Atletico player? Completely different profiles of player from what I can see.
Is this anything other than Chelsea needing to give Atletico money for someone so they can afford Gallagher? It’s so fecking weird.
Have they not got a shirt sponsor?
So they wanted Omorodion but after that failed their next target just happened to also be an Atletico player? Completely different profiles of player from what I can see.
Is this anything other than Chelsea needing to give Atletico money for someone so they can afford Gallagher? It’s so fecking weird.
Nope, how they're balancing the books needs investigating.
There is that granted but having a million players on the books and missing out on a 50-60m a season strikes me as massively odd given the size of Chelsea.I mean, you could check out Chelsea's player sales and see for yourself, if you wanted to.
There is that granted but having a million players on the books and missing out on a 50-60m a season strikes me as massively odd given the size of Chelsea.
There's probably someone on YouTube who has done one of these in less than 5 minutesThis one fits a bit better if you ask me:
https://www.clearlyimpossiblepuzzle.com/
Okay I’ve checked the sales - you have a net spend of 640m over the last 3 seasons. That doesn’t include agent fees - and considering you’ve signed 38 players in that time I reckon they’ll be pretty high. You also posted losses of 90m last year, 124m the year before and 156m the year before that - so how you’re balancing the books probably is quite a valid question tbh.I mean, you could check out Chelsea's player sales and see for yourself, if you wanted to.
Okay I’ve checked the sales - you have a net spend of 640m over the last 3 seasons. That doesn’t include agent fees - and considering you’ve signed 38 players in that time I reckon they’ll be pretty high. You also posted losses of 90m last year, 124m the year before and 156m the year before that - so how you’re balancing the books probably is quite a valid question tbh.
Okay I’ve checked the sales - you have a net spend of 640m over the last 3 seasons. That doesn’t include agent fees - and considering you’ve signed 38 players in that time I reckon they’ll be pretty high. You also posted losses of 90m last year, 124m the year before and 156m the year before that - so how you’re balancing the books probably is quite a valid question tbh.
The players petitioned against it out of fear that Chelsea would buy 5 new toys.Also,
Why have they foregone the sponsorship on the front of their shirts again?
They don't want to sign up for a long-term deal currently because they are getting lower offers in the absence of CL football. Instead they are searching again for a 1 year deal at a high rate with the hope to qualify for next year and find a long-term agreement.Also,
Why have they foregone the sponsorship on the front of their shirts again?
But they won't qualify for the champions league though. Is it time to suck it up and just stick Bovril on the front?They don't want to sign up for a long-term deal currently because they are getting lower offers in the absence of CL football. Instead they are searching again for a 1 year deal at a high rate with the hope to qualify for next year and find a long-term agreement.
Just an awful situation to be in.My understanding is Chelsea needed Gallagher off the books this summer. He had rejected a new contract, and declined an offer from Villa. I mentioned in the Gallagher thread a month or so ago how Gallagher held all the leverage to either force Chelsea into giving him the contract he wants or a club he actually wants to play comes in for him and that's basically how it's played out.
So Chelsea were in a situation where they either sell him now, or watch him sign a contract with a club in January to leave for free next summer. Atleti were the only club that were offering a good fee that Gallagher was also happy to join, the only kicker is, Atleti are riding pretty close to the sun FFP wise, so to make the deal happen, they need to sell a player. If not Omorodion, then someone else.
If Gallagher had more than 12 months left on his deal, I don't think this Felix deal happens. Or maybe it does, who knows with Clearlake. But the bottom line to avoid losing Gallagher for free, a player the club previously valued at £50m, they had to commit to buying a player from Aleti.
Okay I’ve checked the sales - you have a net spend of 640m over the last 3 seasons. That doesn’t include agent fees - and considering you’ve signed 38 players in that time I reckon they’ll be pretty high. You also posted losses of 90m last year, 124m the year before and 156m the year before that - so how you’re balancing the books probably is quite a valid question tbh.
So they wanted Omorodion but after that failed their next target just happened to also be an Atletico player? Completely different profiles of player from what I can see.
Is this anything other than Chelsea needing to give Atletico money for someone so they can afford Gallagher? It’s so fecking weird.
Probably will be run back with Infinite Athlete again if I had to wager?But they won't qualify for the champions league though. Is it time to suck it up and just stick Bovril on the front?
True - though if he leaves for free presumably he'll have agreed to cancel his deal somehow? So that 30m becomes 15m once his wages are off the books.Not to forget they pissed off Sterling in the process. He'll now leave for free (can't see anyone paying money to take him right now), writing off 30m of amortization which will wipe out the profit on sale of Gallagher, which was the whole objective of selling Gallagher in the first place. Such an efficiently run club!
Probably will be run back with Infinite Athlete again if I had to wager?
True - though if he leaves for free presumably he'll have agreed to cancel his deal somehow? So that 30m becomes 15m once his wages are off the books.
That also means that if someone can convince him to sign a contract Chelsea would likely only look for a fee in the region of 15m to break even.
Tough to see him walking away from that much though as he'd get nowhere near the same wherever he goes save Saudi Arabia.
It's been consistently reported that Felix took a huge pay cut to fit into Chelsea's wage structure - he was desperate to get out of Atletico Madrid.Wages:
Sterling + Gallagher = 375-400k
Neto + Felix = at least 300-350k (can't see Felix on less than 200k)
It won't save you much in wages, right?
Amortization:
Sell Gallagher for 30m: +30m
Buy Neto for ~55m: -10m in amortization/year
Buy Felix for 36m: -7m in amortization/year
Sell Sterling for 0m: -30m of amortization write off
Overall, you're going to be -17m down this year by these series of weird transactions.
Yes.Have supporters been told what the plan is when there are no more academy players to sell and you still have a squad of players who aren't delivering on 7 year contracts?
Wages:
Sterling + Gallagher = 375-400k
Neto + Felix = at least 300-350k (can't see Felix on less than 200k)
It won't save you much in wages, right?
Amortization:
Sell Gallagher for 30m: +30m
Buy Neto for ~55m: -10m in amortization/year
Buy Felix for 36m: -7m in amortization/year
Sell Sterling for 0m: -30m of amortization write off
Overall, you're going to be -17m down this year by these series of weird transactions.
Have supporters been told what the plan is when there are no more academy players to sell and you still have a squad of players who aren't delivering on 7 year contracts? Or are they just expected to assume it will all work out?
It's been consistently reported that Felix took a huge pay cut to fit into Chelsea's wage structure - he was desperate to get out of Atletico Madrid.
I always hate reported wages in per week; makes it difficult to square with amortisation figures:
OUT (GBP):
Wages: Sterling 15m per year, Gallagher 5m per year = 20m
Fees: Gallagher 35m (42m euros)
Total out: 55m
IN (GBP):
Neto - 55m = 11m amortisation / year
Felix - 42m = 8.4m amortisation / year
Wages: Apparently both Neto and Felix are on Gallagher-level wages - so 10m per year between them
Sterling write off = 30m
Total in: 59.4m
Yes, he's a benevolent man that is not known to be a good negotiator and anyway cares more about the future of Chelsea than that of his clients. Any other silly questions?You think Jorge Mendes negotiated deals to put Neto and especially Felix on only 100k per week?