Please Carlo, be smoking a cigar at the end of that game…
Champions League — quarter-finals and semi-finals draw
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It appears the CL table will not be reflecting that either.
This is dependant on Madrid going through to semis.
Death, taxes, and Barcelona unraveling at the first adversity in a big game 
Wasn´t Dortmund vs. Bayern the ´UCL final, the last time it took place at Wembley?
Indeed.Wasn´t Dortmund vs. Bayern the ´UCL final, the last time it took place at Wembley?
I'm again not at all optimistic for tonight. While we have home advantage and a 'clean slate' due to the draw in the first game, our squad is even thinner due to injuries (Coman out, Sané not entirely fit but will probably play anyway) and Davies being suspended. No room for error.
Watching the Champions league matches last night made me sad. Such a high level of quality and football on display. We're a million miles from that.
I remember the anticipation at this time of the season, year on year the expectation that we'd win something, the thrill of the challenge.
In the last 10 years most of our seasons have ended with me just wishing i was over.
I remember the anticipation at this time of the season, year on year the expectation that we'd win something, the thrill of the challenge.
In the last 10 years most of our seasons have ended with me just wishing i was over.
I expect Guerreiro to play LW to help out Mazraoui vs. Saka. Otherwise Arsenal will feast on their right side. Like you, I'm not very hopeful. The injury situation and the far too thin squad may prove critical, despite the good result from the first leg.
Bayern and City to go through tonight.
Arsenal might have a young talented side, but they simply have no pedigree in this competition and not enough leaders to pull through when thing gets tough. Bayern have nothing else but this competition now and a lot of experience in the squad.
In the other game, I don't expect Madrid to get quite the trashing they got last year in the Emptyhad, but without Courtois, Militao (has only played 10 minutes after a long injury) and Tchouameni I don't think they'll be able to pull off the defensive heroics needed for getting past Pep's expensively assembled robot army.
Arsenal might have a young talented side, but they simply have no pedigree in this competition and not enough leaders to pull through when thing gets tough. Bayern have nothing else but this competition now and a lot of experience in the squad.
In the other game, I don't expect Madrid to get quite the trashing they got last year in the Emptyhad, but without Courtois, Militao (has only played 10 minutes after a long injury) and Tchouameni I don't think they'll be able to pull off the defensive heroics needed for getting past Pep's expensively assembled robot army.
Looking forward to the game. Getting rid of the Barça-Atleti semifinal has given me a lot of peace.
It's impossible to do worse than last year. I hope they are better physically and don't go out to play so scared.
Let's see how Nacho and Lunin do.
And then, if everything goes well, which is difficult, a nice semifinal with Bayern to see M̶u̶s̶i̶a̶l̶a̶ Davies in action.
It's impossible to do worse than last year. I hope they are better physically and don't go out to play so scared.
Let's see how Nacho and Lunin do.
And then, if everything goes well, which is difficult, a nice semifinal with Bayern to see M̶u̶s̶i̶a̶l̶a̶ Davies in action.
I always find something quite enjoyable about watching Barca squirm. Was loving it last night seeing multiple red cards and yellows being dished out. Bunch of shithosue merchants…forever diving, time wasting etc when it suits. They dont like being on the receiving end of it. It’s fun to watch play out.
Ultimately I think I’m still getting over their dominant era when we couldn’t land a glove
Ultimately I think I’m still getting over their dominant era when we couldn’t land a glove
The semis will be interesting. I believe Dortmund can thank Araujo he ensured the stronger team got eliminated with his foul. They have better chances of overcoming PSG.
edit - ah already posted
My impression was opposite. Generally quality has declined. Art of defending has declined. Poor finishing. To have on one hand on such level players the level of Raphinha even playing never mind scoring goals, on the other hand allowing Correa getting such chances (and wasting them in line with his level). Also some matches are a borefest (City for example are efficient but they bore you to death).
Well yesterday nothing was boring.
I don’t understand all the joy for BVB winning. It’s bad for Utd, it sucks because Sancho and really sucks just because it’s Dortmund. I certainly don’t love to see it.
The best thing for Man United would be Sancho playing every game and scoring the winning goal in the final.
Ten Hag's pride isn't worth the millions you would get in terms in an increase transfer fee.
Yeah, we've been irrelevant in Champions League since 2011 final. Only exception being 2012/13 when Nani's red card knocked us out. 2019 PSG win was largely a fluke and other seasons we just got knocked out to Sevilla and Atletico at OT in last 16. We're Europa League team and have been for a decade now.
But on topic: think it would've been Inter in the final again if they didn't miss some big chances in 2nd leg against Atletico. And possibly it would've been a repeat of last year final with Inter and City in it.
On games tonight: I feel like Bayern have 55% chances to go through to Arsenal's 45%, mostly because they have bigger experience in these type of games and are home side. City 60-65% to Madrid's 35-40%. You'd expect them to go through in the end but not with 4-0 again. Will be interesting and a shame both games are at the same time.
I know, right. These Gen Z players and their goal scoring. Can you tell us more about how great things were in your day?
Surely it's good because hopefully it increases Sancho's value
Watching great teams play great football in the CL is amazing, but also painful when you realize how far we have fallen
I can understand the reason Tuchel will line up like that given our injury woes. Losing Gnabry our best scorer after Kane is the bigger blow
It wasn't boring for sure but I agree with SonOfFergie with regards to the quality. Last night, those weren't high quality games.
It also has nothing to do with Ten Hag's pride - even if Sancho scores in a final, it doesn't negate the shit he served up here and the decisions made by Ten Hag and the club.
I didn't say it would negate anything. Only that him doing incredibly well there is really good for Man United.
Couldn't care less about Dortmund, but we want our loaned out players to not be complete shit because it increases their value when we look to sell them.
van de Beek is a lost cause, just like Martial was after his stint out at Sevilla.
How exciting have these quarter finals been so far? It's been really intense!
You mentioned Ten Hag's pride, which is neither here nor there, which is very clearly what I was responding to.
I think yesterday would've been much more boring with the old away rule still there. So, it's a good change I guess.
I'm sure I heard earlier that there only needs to be 2 goals tonight to break the record of goals scored across the quarter final games.
Yesterday, it was logical when PSG eliminated Barcelona. Xavi even announced last month that he won't be the coach in 2024/25. Of course, the advantage of the first leg was great, but if we look at the consistency of the whole year, it was logical that PSG would qualify.
The logic today is for Arsenal to beat Bayern, they've had a much better year, but you never know.
The logic today is for Arsenal to beat Bayern, they've had a much better year, but you never know.
Just last season, we were a better team than this Dortmund or Atlético side. Possibly Barca as well. I'd say our 20/21 team is also more than good enough to make a CL quarter-final.
"Million miles away" is either very hyperbolic or you really overrate these teams
I think removing the away goals have been a great move. Certainly seems to make the games less stale.
I think Real will edge it. If those bastards get a double-treble, the sky will fall (not really).
Travelling fans truly recognise the biggest club in Manchester. Not much history on thr other side
City will splatter Real like last year, thus winning the competition. Bayern will finish off Arsenal's season.
Do City even have a museum? If so, it’s probably some gigantic building with loads of glass with a single display of like three trophies, while Oasis is playing over some crappy but expensive speakers.
Last nights results were not good for City being stopped, Barcelona and atletico would be tougher opposition for City than dortmund and psg
I think it was pretty certain that the winner will come from City’s bracket anyway, yesterday results don’t really change that