Chain Draft (Main Thread)

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Battle of the fullbacks. Who's come up front?

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@antohan vs @Joga Bonito @Annahnomoss
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Match Schedule

9/4 (Fri)
9/5 (Sat)
9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed)
9/10 (Thu)
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
 
Tuppet said:
@bleezy I can play any day, so whatever works for you.
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I'm off work all next week so I can do any day really. Wednesday?

Match Schedule

9/4 (Fri)
9/5 (Sat)
9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed) Tuppet/Viva vs. Bleezy
9/10 (Thu)
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
 
Match Schedule

9/4 (Fri)
9/5 (Sat)
9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed): Tuppet/Viva vs. Bleezy
9/10 (Thu): The Stain vs Sjor Bepo
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
 
antohan said:
I swear @Chesterlestreet did that on purpose for tagging him with :drool:s

:(

Was the only game I was looking forward to once my team was complete. It isn't though (thanks GS :mad:), would have been epic and I'd have a raging hardon despite the odds clearly being stacked against me.

Oh well...
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:(. Me too mate, would have made for an even more cracking game later on and it would have also been quite funny in what has been quite the euro-centric draft.

antohan said:
@Joga Bonito, I can do any day you want bar Tuesday.
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Would Wednesday do for you?

antohan said:
Oh, of course... Theon the lurking "neutral", I was never going to get a decent draw there, was I?
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:lol:
 
Match Schedule

9/4 (Fri)
9/5 (Sat)
9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed): Tuppet/Viva vs. Bleezy; antohan vs Joga/Annah
9/10 (Thu): The Stain vs Sjor Bepo
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
 
A fairly well balanced draft. Those who started strongly have, on the whole, struggled to maintain that level through to the end. While those who started slowly finished in fine fettle. Glad to see we went through without having to resort to the reset card. The picks of the draft for me are Kohler at 7, Schuster and Rivaldo at 8, Figueroa at 11 and Kempes at 12. Brainfart of the draft goes to everyone for giving Joga and Annah a free pass at the best Brazil had to offer, seemingly preferring to get bogged down in 1980s and 1990s Serie A and Bundesliga. And then when they did dip their toes into Europe, they waltzed through the fresh pickings of 1980s Ligue Un. Surprise of the draft is how everyone gave English football from the late-1960s to the mid-1990s a wide berth, despite all those European Cup victories it seems nobody wanted some Scouse cnut upsetting the voters.
 
Gio said:
And then when they did dip their toes into Europe, they waltzed through the fresh pickings of 1980s Ligue Un.
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We were really afraid of Tigana getting picked earlier (he had plenty of juicy links Papin/Amoros/Deschamps/Giresse/Tresor/Lizarazu etc) and given the dearth of top notch B2B midfielders available in this draft (with the likes of Neeskens, Rijkaard, Keane and Matthäus being banned) we were certain he would be gone. Rather fortunate of us to get our hands on him.

Gio said:
Surprise of the draft is how everyone gave English football from the late-1960s to the mid-1990s a wide berth, despite all those European Cup victories it seems nobody wanted some Scouse cnut upsetting the voters.
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Wouldn't necessarily call it a surprise tbf. From that Pool team, only Souness seems to get any sort of credit and rightly so since he was their best player hands down, but Hansen does get underrated a wee bit I feel.
 
Gio said:
A fairly well balanced draft. Those who started strongly have, on the whole, struggled to maintain that level through to the end. While those who started slowly finished in fine fettle. Glad to see we went through without having to resort to the reset card. The picks of the draft for me are Kohler at 7, Schuster and Rivaldo at 8, Figueroa at 11 and Kempes at 12. Brainfart of the draft goes to everyone for giving Joga and Annah a free pass at the best Brazil had to offer, seemingly preferring to get bogged down in 1980s and 1990s Serie A and Bundesliga. And then when they did dip their toes into Europe, they waltzed through the fresh pickings of 1980s Ligue Un. Surprise of the draft is how everyone gave English football from the late-1960s to the mid-1990s a wide berth, despite all those European Cup victories it seems nobody wanted some Scouse cnut upsetting the voters.
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Cutch getting Vierchowod one pick before me ruined that plan, as I had in my mind to go some sort of Vierchowod > Souness > Dalglish/Hansen route. Dalglish was leading me into Lisbon Lions territory which I think would have got me a bit stuck once I went for Jimmy Johnstone. Maybe not a massive vote winner on here taking a few Liverpool players, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more successful team that didn't even get touched in this draft.
 
bleezy said:
Cutch getting Vierchowod one pick before me ruined that plan, as I had in my mind to go some sort of Vierchowod > Souness > Dalglish/Hansen route. Dalglish was leading me into Lisbon Lions territory which I think would have got me a bit stuck once I went for Jimmy Johnstone. Maybe not a massive vote winner on here taking a few Liverpool players, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more successful team that didn't even get touched in this draft.
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Yeah it was an option back out of Italy. A little problematic getting from that Liverpool team into the best of British in the 1960s, but if you did, there were pickings aplenty - Greaves, Mackay, Edwards, Blanchflower, Johnstone, Baxter - and a wee bit of creativity and the likes of Finney and Matthews wouldn't have been miles away. That said, trickier era to navigate with one-club players (like Sir Tom) and those plying significant chunks of their career outside the mail league in the second tier.
 
antohan said:
We could also play it today so that we get it out of the way as well @Joga Bonito

It's not like it will be a nail-biter or anything, not in this setting. In real life though... @Chesterlestreet
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Man up. Any side which is based around Penarol, one of the most successful club sides of all time, and Uruguay who have plenty of previous in dicking over the Brazilians, isn't going to be easily beaten.
 
Gio said:
A fairly well balanced draft. Those who started strongly have, on the whole, struggled to maintain that level through to the end. While those who started slowly finished in fine fettle. Glad to see we went through without having to resort to the reset card. The picks of the draft for me are Kohler at 7, Schuster and Rivaldo at 8, Figueroa at 11 and Kempes at 12. Brainfart of the draft goes to everyone for giving Joga and Annah a free pass at the best Brazil had to offer, seemingly preferring to get bogged down in 1980s and 1990s Serie A and Bundesliga. And then when they did dip their toes into Europe, they waltzed through the fresh pickings of 1980s Ligue Un. Surprise of the draft is how everyone gave English football from the late-1960s to the mid-1990s a wide berth, despite all those European Cup victories it seems nobody wanted some Scouse cnut upsetting the voters.
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Yep, good summary that.

bleezy said:
Cutch getting Vierchowod one pick before me ruined that plan, as I had in my mind to go some sort of Vierchowod > Souness > Dalglish/Hansen route. Dalglish was leading me into Lisbon Lions territory which I think would have got me a bit stuck once I went for Jimmy Johnstone. Maybe not a massive vote winner on here taking a few Liverpool players, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more successful team that didn't even get touched in this draft.
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Considered the same route, Vierchowod>Souness>Dalglish>Johnstone. Was getting a bit out of my comfort zone and a bit too scouse for my liking so left it, but probably regret it now as my paths seemed to be all blocked off from Rossi onwards.
 
antohan said:
We could also play it today so that we get it out of the way as well @Joga Bonito

It's not like it will be a nail-biter or anything, not in this setting. In real life though... @Chesterlestreet
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Come on, it will be a close one. You have a cracking defense which would leave even Chester drooling and a promising if underappreciated attack. No one better to sell them too.

Gio said:
Man up. Any side which is based around Penarol, one of the most successful club sides of all time, and Uruguay who have plenty of previous in dicking over the Brazilians, isn't going to be easily beaten.
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I'm fairly certain he is trying to get my guard down, not going to happen anto :D.
 
Gio said:
Man up. Any side which is based around Penarol, one of the most successful club sides of all time, and Uruguay who have plenty of previous in dicking over the Brazilians, isn't going to be easily beaten.
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I know, that's what pisses me off about it. I would win that game 4 out of 5 times IRL (or 2-2-1 if W/D/L).
 
BTW @Gio, I guess you would know a thing or two about this geezer. This is for all those times I've been subjected to that Denmark 6-1 Uruguay clip.

An assist and two cracking goals, not too shabby. Just look at the way he hits that free kick :eek: Still, I liked the open play one better.

 
antohan said:
I know, that's what pisses me off about it. I would win that game 4 out of 5 times IRL (or 2-2-1 if W/D/L).
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That's more like it.

Gio said:
Man up. Any side which is based around Penarol, one of the most successful club sides of all time, and Uruguay who have plenty of previous in dicking over the Brazilians, isn't going to be easily beaten.
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One of my primary concerns in constructing a largely Brazilian oriented team was the potential fragility or lack of mental fortitude/leaders that seems to be prevalent in a few of their famous sides (case in point 1950 and 1982). We didn't just want a fancy team fannying about with the ball and scoring goals but we wanted a team that was also made of sterner stuff.

That's why we have reinforced the team with the 1978 French captain Marius Tresor; the 1962 WC winning captain Mauro Ramos; one-club man Botafogo's captain N.Santos who was a well-respected figure and commanded immense respect from his peers - probably the only player who could keep Garrincha under check or more like Garrincha keeping himself in check voluntarily, solely out of the great respect he had for the legend ; 1970 WC winning skipper C.Alberto (nicknamed the captain) who had the cojones to keep the greatest national team ever, overflowing with ego, well under the reins and led them to a glorious WC winning campaign; Zito, the captain of the greatest Brazilian club side ever and the one who almost single-handedly provided the steely presence and platform for the 58/62 Brazilian vintage to excel.

One only has to read up the anecdote about Didi after conceding the first goal against Sweden in the 1958 WC final to understand what he was all about. So there aren't many frailties or a lack of fortitude in this team to exploit and you can be sure that there won't be much 'dicking over' going on or any capitulations. This most certainly won't be your 'average' Brazilian side.
 
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antohan said:
BTW @Gio, I guess you would know a thing or two about this geezer. This is for all those times I've been subjected to that Denmark 6-1 Uruguay clip.

An assist and two cracking goals, not too shabby. Just look at the way he hits that free kick :eek: Still, I liked the open play one better.

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That free-kick was fantastically unconventional. Between that and Zico's postage-stamp effort in 1982, we Scots had the perfect induction in quality South American set-piece delivery to practice from in our youth.

Here's a nice summary of how we approached the Peru game. The gaffer plainly did no preparation, got their wingers mixed up and left our best players on the bench.

Over-confidence and erratic team selection certainly had much to do with Scotland's initial defeat against Peru, in Cordoba. Inexplicably, MacLeod chose in midfield Don Masson and Bruce Rioch, both in such poor previous form that Derby County had put them on the transfer list. Yet they were preferred to Graeme Souness, a major figure in Liverpool's conquest of the European Cup.

Teofilo Cubillas, the gifted Peruvian who had been a star of the 1970 World Cup, was plainly underestimated by Scotland, for he ran them ragged. And Martin Buchan, a centre-half played out of position at left-back, complained that he had not known the right-winger Munante was so fast.

The Scots, starting well and going ahead with a goal by Jordan, fell away, missed a penalty through Masson, and succumbed to two goals by Cubillas.
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Match Schedule

9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed): Tuppet/Viva vs. Bleezy; antohan vs Joga/Annah
9/10 (Thu): The Stain vs Sjor Bepo; Edgar vs Skizzo
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
 
bleezy said:
I'm off work all next week so I can do any day really. Wednesday?

Match Schedule

9/4 (Fri)
9/5 (Sat)
9/6 (Sun): Kazi vs Cutch
9/7 (Mon): Cal? vs diarm
9/8 (Tue): MJJ/Crappy vs Pat_Mustard
9/9 (Wed) Tuppet/Viva vs. Bleezy
9/10 (Thu)
9/11 (Fri): green_smiley vs mazhar13
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Sounds good.
 
Gio said:
And then when they did dip their toes into Europe, they waltzed through the fresh pickings of 1980s Ligue Un. Surprise of the draft is how everyone gave English football from the late-1960s to the mid-1990s a wide berth, despite all those European Cup victories it seems nobody wanted some Scouse cnut upsetting the voters.
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I could have easily dipped my toes into Ligue 1 (and I definitely should have), but my main concern was in getting a decent keeper and moving through the decades in between different teams. I tried to make several different chains, but every time, I was left in a horrible situation.

I also had a route to get into England, but I got stranded there as well, so I went with the safe options. I really regret it now, though, seeing that everyone else was muddled up in 80's/90's/2000's Bundesliga and Serie A.
 
mazhar13 said:
I also had a route to get into England, but I got stranded there as well.
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Not hard, looking at the Juve options I strung together Liam Brady, Paul Ince and Steve McManaman. Then I thought "what the feck is this shit" and just prayed @Skizzo wouldn't pick Altafini.
 
antohan said:
Not hard, looking at the Juve options I strung together Liam Brady, Paul Ince and Steve McManaman. Then I thought "what the feck is this shit" and just prayed @Skizzo wouldn't pick Altafini.
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My route wasn't through Juve, though, but I still could have gotten the players you mentioned. My main concern was with setting up a solid defence without other options being taken away.

Also, @Edgar Allan Pillow, is the reinforcements pool still open?
 
antohan said:
Not hard, looking at the Juve options I strung together Liam Brady, Paul Ince and Steve McManaman. Then I thought "what the feck is this shit" and just prayed @Skizzo wouldn't pick Altafini.
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:lol: I was looking at a chain from Juve to England stringing Brady, Vierchowod, Souness, Hansen and Barnes, but it would hardly have been a big vote winner and I don't think I found any particularly appealing way out either.
 
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