Chain Draft (Main Thread)
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I'm still baffled as to why EAP didn't pick him. When I looked at the 80s my preferred path was Brehme (for RB) and on to Kohler. The problem was which of the many Kohler options to go for next.No because Kohler at 7th pick is definitely legit
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Anyone interested in keeping the chain going for berbasloth? Or shall I skip the team totally?
Anyone interested in keeping the chain going for berbasloth? Or shall I skip the team totally?
Let's let @Edgar Allan Pillow and @Pat_Mustard decide on this issue once and for all before moving on.
Cheers. Need to pull something out of my arse after my next pick, though. Hours of research, here we come.
Wanker but best in the world once.I'm not.
I wouldn't mind, say, Sterling either (but that was impossible for several reasons), but he's in a different category to begin with: On the radar to a very different degree. What we should be aiming for is, basically, Fergie's old scheme: Get the next Ronaldo in. It will take some flops, semi-flops and Nanis - but it's the sort of scheme we could actually go for with our wealth, and it's a much more worthy one (in my opinion) than going down some kind of pseudo Galactico path, paying obscene amounts for the likes of Di Maria (who are also gambles at the end of the day).
Totally agree. I said the same when I had him and Terry in the last draft!
I wonder if Terry/Lampard would be enough to kill the vote magnet that his team is.Have you watched him play a lot? I've not seen anything to suggest he's got the talent of a Ronaldo or anything close to that level. His major strength is that he's very well rounded, his dribbling isn't great but for a striker it is good, his link up with teammates is very good, his off the ball runs looks like his strongest asset. I've only seen him play when he's played PSG though and the compilations.
But it seems like you are vastly overrating his potential, even Nani had world class speed and dribbling from the day we signed him and he wasn't bought for sums anywhere near these, even in with the market value changes in mind.
I think you've misunderstood my point.
I'm not singing his praises or claiming he's bound to become a world beater. I'm outlining a general strategy. As far as his particular potential goes, I think he fits the bill of a young player with huge potential, largely unfulfilled, and I'm finding it significant that LVG is willing to bring him in for that kind of money.
I've seen him on a few occasions, and he's looked very good. Overrating his potential isn't something I can legitimately be accused of, since I haven't actually said a word about it. I trust LVG's judgment on that.
Ashley Cole is also great in these drafts. He is like Maldini-lite, he shut out Ronaldo a couple of times so no other winger of the same tier or below stands a chance. Those in higher tier are banned anyway.
Yeah, at the end of the day, I just hope LVG/scouting team know something that we muppets don't.
I think you are too caught up in that 'some players don't want to join us in this state'. Even Silva, Toure and Aguero joined City when they were no big guns. If media reports are true then our plan to get a big signing in Bale or Muller has been baffling. It would be much more prudent to try for likes of Rues, Griezmann with big money. A club like Athletico Madrid almost always sells if they receive a mega-bid. Likes of Madrid, Bayern, Barca would almost never sell.
Also I think it is time to skip @berbasloth4 's team completely. We can't keep waiting
Nah. Whoever goes next needs to be in it for the long haul.
Ye. Temporarily put the players on the blocked list and make them available for re's.
Right enough. That's crazy. I thought everyone somehow just ended up avoiding him, unable to quite link in the greatest man-marker of all. What a gift that is for MJJ and Crappy.
Ahh then I agree. I think that is a better strategy than buying ready made world class players nonstop.
I'm not caught up in that at all. I'm genuinely interested in us buying under-the-radar players with potential rather than players who are established to the degree Reus is.
But with our current status and situation, the idea that we're at a disadvantage when it comes to signing a certain category of players is hardly outlandish - for that matter.
They never played with each other though and he couldn't use the nationalteam card that early, right?
That...is key. Of course.
My basic idea is that LVG is better at judging how a certain player will look three or four years down the line than yours truly. Beyond that, anything could happen. Like I said to begin with, it's a gamble. But it's a gamble which makes sense as a strategy for a club in our situation. Or so I think.
The route was Brehme-Aganthaler-Kohler .
That's why I was so surprised earlier when he went Brehme-Aganthaler-Effenberg
We were planning on linking him with forster but they never played together ( a few months apart in the NT)
Having picked Augenthaler before, progression through Bayern is ruled out. I considered him and wanted to move towards Del Piero > Nedved, but Tuppet put paid to that. No may other options that interested me that route.
Edit: I'd already used 3 50s and 2 60s quota by then, so not much room to move around too!
Oh fair enough, that makes more sense.
Nah, my bad, got this mixed up with another German chain. Someone who links to Kohler directly and 4-5 other favourties of mine. Surprised he isn't gone and whoever gets him has an absolutely cracking link for reinforcements.
Yeah, there was this one but I didn't think Kohler would las long enough.
mazhar13: 1. R. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star) 6. J. Zanetti (Inter) 7. R. Carlos (Inter)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juve) 4. Altafini (Juve) 5. L. Buffon (Milan) 6. Julio César Abbadie (Genoa) 7. O. Varela (Peñarol)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal) 6. Deschamps (Juve) 7. Kohler (Juve)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto (Santos) 7. Rivelino (Fluminense)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juve) 5. van der Sar (Juve) 6. Evra (United) 7. Pirlo (Juve)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs) 7. Scholes (NT)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter) 7. Cabrini (Juve)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juve) 6. Conti (Roma) 7. P. Rossi (NT)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma) 7. Ayala (NT)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (NT) 7. Papin (Marseille)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern) 7. W Sagnol (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juve) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real) 7. Chendo (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea) 7. Beckham (NT)
???: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juve) 7. Hamrin (Juve)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juve)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, F. Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juve) 4. Altafini (Juve) 5. L. Buffon (Milan) 6. Julio César Abbadie (Genoa) 7. O. Varela (Peñarol)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal) 6. Deschamps (Juve) 7. Kohler (Juve)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto (Santos) 7. Rivelino (Fluminense)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juve) 5. van der Sar (Juve) 6. Evra (United) 7. Pirlo (Juve)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs) 7. Scholes (NT)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter) 7. Cabrini (Juve)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juve) 6. Conti (Roma) 7. P. Rossi (NT)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma) 7. Ayala (NT)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (NT) 7. Papin (Marseille)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern) 7. W Sagnol (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juve) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real) 7. Chendo (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea) 7. Beckham (NT)
???: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juve) 7. Hamrin (Juve)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juve)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, F. Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.
Yeap. Top Pick
I'll pick Helmut Haller, the Germany playmaker who played a season at Juve with Dino Zoff.
mazhar13: 1. R. Falcao 2. di Bartolomei (Roma) 3. Tassotti (Milan) 4. Savicevic (Milan) 5. Jugovic (Red Star) 6. J. Zanetti (Inter) 7. R. Carlos (Inter)
antohan: 1. Facchetti 2. Boninsegna (Inter) 3. Scirea (Juve) 4. Altafini (Juve) 5. L. Buffon (Milan) 6. Julio César Abbadie (Genoa) 7. O. Varela (Peñarol)
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario 2. Guardiola (Barca) 3. Figo (Barca) 4. Vieira (Inter) 5. Henry (Arsenal) 6. Deschamps (Juve) 7. Kohler (Juve)
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi 2. N. Santos (Botafogo) 3. J. Bauer (Botafogo) 4. M. Ramos (Sao Paulo) 5. Zito (Santos) 6. C. Alberto (Santos) 7. Rivelino (Fluminense)
Cal?: 1. Ribery 2. Robben (Bayern) 3. Cannavaro (Real) 4. Zambrotta (Juve) 5. van der Sar (Juve) 6. Evra (United) 7. Pirlo (Juve)
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Tacconi (Juve) 3. Tardelli (Juve) 4. G. Baresi (Inter) 5. Klinsmann (Inter) 6. Campbell (Spurs) 7. Scholes (NT)
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino (Milan) 3. Ghezzi (Milan) 4. Rivera (Milan) 5. Collovati (Milan) 6. Causio (Inter) 7. Cabrini (Juve)
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi (Inter) 3. Bergkamp (Inter) 4. Davids (Ajax) 5. Vierchowod (Juve) 6. Conti (Roma) 7. P. Rossi (NT)
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov (Barca) 3. Benarrivo (Parma) 4. Albertini (Padova) 5. Cafu (Milan) 6. Batistuta (Roma) 7. Ayala (NT)
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro (Real) 3. Netzer (Real) 4. Bonhof (Gladbach) 5. Schumacher (Koln) 6. Forster (NT) 7. Papin (Marseille)
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K. H. Rummenigge (Bayern) 3. Zenga (Inter) 4. Brehme (Inter) 5. Augenthaler (Bayern) 6. Effenberg (Bayern) 7. W Sagnol (Bayern)
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori (Juve) 3. Del Sol (Juve) 4. Santamaria (Real) 5. Pirri (Real) 6. Camacho (Real) 7. Chendo (Real)
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs (United) 3. Stam (United) 4. Kaka (Milan) 5. Essien (Real) 6. A. Cole (Chelsea) 7. Beckham (NT)
???: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law (United) 3. Rosato (Torino) 4. Schnellinger (Milan) 5. Zoff (Mantova) 6. Haller (Juventus)
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez (Inter) 3. Kocsis (Barcelona) 4. Bozsik (Honved) 5. Kincses (Kispest) 6. Boniperti (Juve) 7. Hamrin (Juve)
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit (Feyenoord) 3. Costacurta (Milan) 4. Nesta (Milan) 5. Nedved (Lazio) 6. Del Piero (Juve)
BLOCKED PLAYERS:
Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, F. Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.
Geoff's wondering if he can get his ball back.
@Pat_Mustard You can pick another already
I am also confused. You are already Skizzo's scout. Are you leaving that position
We're doubling up our chances!