[Castles] Maguire has indicated to #mufc that he would like an English-born/speaker defender

Pow said:
I don't get it ? Does lindelof not speak English or something ?
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He does. I am sure this is just Harry giving feedback to the scouts etc. that communication is essential in a defence and while our scouts might well find a player who has the skills and attributes to be the best defender in the world, if he is struggling to communicate with the rest of the back line (who would be the predominantly English speaking Shaw, Maguire, AWB and Henderson) then its going to lead to confusion.

Maguire said recently something to the effect of: he plays well when his left back is playing well. The defence is a unit and they all need to be on the same page to succeed. Given United's spectrum of ethnicities, skin tones and beliefs I really doubt that this is harry making a stand for nationalism.
 
Harry Maguire SLAMS Lindelöf and Bailly using FACTS and LOGIC

"I mean, it's just common sense, innit?" We're sitting in a pub of Harry Maguire's choosing. On the table there's a large plate of fish and chips and a few empty glasses that only minutes before were filled to the brim with Carling.

"Look, I have nothing against Sweden or the entire continent of Africa. But it does something with your head when in the heat of the moment on the pitch you have a Swedish prettyboy going all "hurdy gurdy give me the ball hurdy gurdy" or that other guy going all "ooga booga behind you booga". But I guess that's not politically correct to say, right?"

Harry shakes his head, adjusts his poppy and asks for another pint.

"Ooof, these pints are going straight to my head. But then again, so is everything else that applies to the laws of physics. Hah, BANTAH!"
 
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GBBQ said:
He does. I am sure this is just Harry giving feedback to the scouts etc. that communication is essential in a defence and while our scouts might well find a player who has the skills and attributes to be the best defender in the world, if he is struggling to communicate with the rest of the back line (who would be the predominantly English speaking Shaw, Maguire, AWB and Henderson) then its going to lead to confusion.

Maguire said recently something to the effect of: he plays well when his left back is playing well. The defence is a unit and they all need to be on the same page to succeed. Given United's spectrum of ethnicities, skin tones and beliefs I really doubt that this is harry making a stand for nationalism.
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Just common sense. Does the French lad from Madrid speak English? If he doesn't, it maters little if he is 'world class' because in defence communication is all. I'm sure he is not referring to Lindy who as a Swede speaks better English than most Brits.
 
GBBQ said:
He does. I am sure this is just Harry giving feedback to the scouts etc. that communication is essential in a defence and while our scouts might well find a player who has the skills and attributes to be the best defender in the world, if he is struggling to communicate with the rest of the back line (who would be the predominantly English speaking Shaw, Maguire, AWB and Henderson) then its going to lead to confusion.

Maguire said recently something to the effect of: he plays well when his left back is playing well. The defence is a unit and they all need to be on the same page to succeed. Given United's spectrum of ethnicities, skin tones and beliefs I really doubt that this is harry making a stand for nationalism.
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I don't get why that's an issue when he's got 2 English men and one swede who speaks
(I assume) fluent English and even currently an English goalkeeper (I'm sure de gea speaks English too)
 
Pow said:
I don't get why that's an issue when he's got 2 English men and one swede who speaks
(I assume) fluent English and even currently an English goalkeeper (I'm sure de gea speaks English too)
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It's not. It's just Duncan Castles making some shit up and our fans lapping it up.
 
Pow said:
Though Ben White is white as well. Bonus I guess.
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Ofcourse, otherwise Racist Harry won't don ManUtd jersey if it's not white player playing next to him. No wonder he injured Bailly against Chelsea in the FA cup game.
 
limerickcitykid said:
It literally doesn’t. Try reading again.
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It absolutely does:

“Harry Maguire has indicated to #mufc that he would like an English-speaking or English-born defender to play alongside — who understands the English football culture and can complement him. Ben White has been mentioned as a target by Maguire”

English-speaking
English-born
White


roonster09 said:
Ben White is a player btw, not Ben who is a white player.
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I know who Ben White is. It was a joke. Quite funny imo.
 
I love how Castles says Ben White, just in case we didn't get the racial undertones in Harry "Brexit means Brexit" Maguire's request :lol:

Surely such utter nonsense "journalism" should get punished?
 
Pow said:
I don't get why that's an issue when he's got 2 English men and one swede who speaks
(I assume) fluent English and even currently an English goalkeeper (I'm sure de gea speaks English too)
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No it’s a luxury very few players at top level get.
If there is any substance at all in this, it’s probably about future prospects. But even so, it would limit future signing incredibly if those were requirements. Way too much to be possible at this level.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
He has some sort of connection with the club at times, especially in the Mourinho era - that much is known at least. As with many threads on the transfer forum it's all about speculation so should make an interesting discussion. Feel free not to participate if you're against it.
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It’s a really lazy reason to make up a thread. A known liar and fibber says something backed by no sources, but let’s start a thread were people can have a hypothetical argument about how thick or racist Harry Maguire would have been if it would have been true? It’s that mentality that makes SoMe a cesspool of false constructed reality of the kind that can make a president out of a criminal car salesman.

Duncan Castle has no sort of connection at the time that you make up a thread presenting him as a legitimate source of what Harry Maguire speaks to the club hierarchy about.
 
OleBoiii said:
Harry Maguire SLAMS Lindelöf and Bailly using FACTS and LOGIC

"I mean, it's just common sense, innit?" We're sitting in a pub of Harry Maguire's choosing. On the table there's a large plate of fish and chips and a few empty glasses that only minutes before were filled to the brim with Carling.

"Look, I have nothing against Sweden or the entire continent of Africa. But it does something with your head when in the heat of the moment of the pitch you have a Swedish prettyboy going all "hurdy gurdy give me the ball hurdy gurdy" or that other guy going all "ooga booga behind you booga". But I guess that's not politically correct to say, right?"

Harry shakes his head, adjusts his poppy and asks for another pint.

"Ooof, these pints are going straight to my head. But then again, so is everything else that applies to the laws of physics. Hah, BANTAH!"
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:lol: :lol:
 
Castles should be treated like that boom boom guy.

Nothing he or his buddy says should ever be taken seriously.
 
OleBoiii said:
Harry Maguire SLAMS Lindelöf and Bailly using FACTS and LOGIC

"I mean, it's just common sense, innit?" We're sitting in a pub of Harry Maguire's choosing. On the table there's a large plate of fish and chips and a few empty glasses that only minutes before were filled to the brim with Carling.

"Look, I have nothing against Sweden or the entire continent of Africa. But it does something with your head when in the heat of the moment of the pitch you have a Swedish prettyboy going all "hurdy gurdy give me the ball hurdy gurdy" or that other guy going all "ooga booga behind you booga". But I guess that's not politically correct to say, right?"

Harry shakes his head, adjusts his poppy and asks for another pint.

"Ooof, these pints are going straight to my head. But then again, so is everything else that applies to the laws of physics. Hah, BANTAH!"
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Riiggghhhttt.
 
OleBoiii said:
Harry Maguire SLAMS Lindelöf and Bailly using FACTS and LOGIC

"I mean, it's just common sense, innit?" We're sitting in a pub of Harry Maguire's choosing. On the table there's a large plate of fish and chips and a few empty glasses that only minutes before were filled to the brim with Carling.

"Look, I have nothing against Sweden or the entire continent of Africa. But it does something with your head when in the heat of the moment of the pitch you have a Swedish prettyboy going all "hurdy gurdy give me the ball hurdy gurdy" or that other guy going all "ooga booga behind you booga". But I guess that's not politically correct to say, right?"

Harry shakes his head, adjusts his poppy and asks for another pint.

"Ooof, these pints are going straight to my head. But then again, so is everything else that applies to the laws of physics. Hah, BANTAH!"
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As a Dane I must say, you absolutely nailed the Swedish language.
 
Harry asking for someone who understands English “culture” goes beyond even just “English” - sounds like he wants them to be of English heritage as well. Real Brexit FC stuff.
 
Pow said:
I don't get it ? Does lindelof not speak English or something ?
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Multiple times I’ve posted this and no logical people agreeing yet. People would somehow rather believe that maguire is nigel Farage incarnate. Sigh.

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said in another thread, IF this was an actual thing then it’s been taken out of context. It’s not absurd that the captain was asked his opinion about possible targets and said something about just making sure they can communicate in English, not as an insult to anyone but just to save on communication issues between the defence. We’ve been linked to numerous foreign defenders
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It's not often I can look at a claim a journo has made and with immediate, 100% certainty, know without a doubt in my mind that it is complete and utter bollocks.

This is one of those times.
 
There’s no way this is true, Lindelof speaks perfect English.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
It's not often I can look at a claim a journo has made and with immediate, 100% certainty, know without a doubt in my mind that it is complete and utter bollocks.

This is one of those times.
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It wasnt Castles who said that it was Ian McGarry. I think its been taken out of context. Managers have often sought out the opinion of senior players. Fergie would ask his senior players about players utd were interested in signing and what the player(s) thought of the player when they played against him.

So Ole or one of his staff asking Maguire about his preference for a partner for him isnt so strange. Maguire wanting someone whos got PL experience isnt so strange, though saying (allegedly) that he'd prefer a british partner CB is abit myopic. Maguire may not have been altruistic with his answer. Maybe he feels hes the best british CB and at the club and that he might be shown up by a top european CB prospect.

There's nothing wrong with looking at the best of british. Bayern/juventus have always been very good at hoovering up the best talent in their domestic markets. However i dont see there being anyone domestically i would bring in to partner Maguire. We definitely need someone who has alot of recovery pace, anticipation and strength.
 
dinostar77 said:
It wasnt Castles who said that it was Ian McGarry. I think its been taken out of context. Managers have often sought out the opinion of senior players. Fergie would ask his senior players about players utd were interested in signing and what the player(s) thought of the player when they played against him.

So Ole or one of his staff asking Maguire about his preference for a partner for him isnt so strange. Maguire wanting someone whos got PL experience isnt so strange, though saying (allegedly) that he'd prefer a british partner CB is abit myopic. Maguire may not have been altruistic with his answer. Maybe he feels hes the best british CB and at the club and that he might be shown up by a top european CB prospect.

There's nothing wrong with looking at the best of british. Bayern/juventus have always been very good at hoovering up the best talent in their domestic markets. However i dont see there being anyone domestically i would bring in to partner Maguire. We definitely need someone who has alot of recovery pace, anticipation and strength.
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Maguire saying he'd want a PL experienced CB isn't strange at all, nor if he suggest Ben White as a good option/partner.

But to go from that to they have to be English-born is a big leap... and it sounds like nonsense.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Maguire saying he'd want a PL experienced CB isn't strange at all, nor if he suggest Ben White as a good option/partner.

But to go from that to they have to be English-born is a big leap... and it sounds like nonsense.
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McGarry never said english born, he said british CB with experience of PL. Which is tantamount to the same thing i suppose.

Its probably come out as its a ridiculous thing for a player to say i.e. want british rather than the best CB the club can get who will fit with Maguire. Then again seeing what he said when he was arrested in greece, i wouldn't be suprised if he made a knucklehead comment like that.
 
Dreadful.

Could you imagine the atmosphere in training if this was actually true :lol:
 
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