He is very good but imo Kante is better.
Casemiro | United Player
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True, but as @Carl just said, it's a shit transfer policy. Not to mention the fee we'd also have to spend to release him.
Here it comes.
Could definitely see Madrid using this as an opportunity to fob off the likes of Ceballos and Asensio on Utd
Really torn on this one, on the one hand we would finally have real DM in the squad who is also absolutely quality. On the other hand he is 30 so ideally he has 3-5 good years left in his position, which isn't bad. Of course now comes the but, the problem I'm afraid of is having a player who has won pretty much everything in his career he could, comes into a dysfunctional squad like this and might think that he can't be arsed to put any effort in with these imbeciles around him and might just decide to go the Brazilian way and turn into Ando while collecting his last fast paycheck.
I turned 32 last week. This forum makes me think I'm not far off retiring.
Still has 2 seasons at high level, since he was never a speed merchant. Don't think he'll accept coming to Manchester United as the club' current state is a complete cluster f*ck.
With deferred wages and transfer fee De Jong was touching 100m and that’s before wages. No way Casemiro would cost any more than that
Casemiro might be better just now, but I´d prefer to get Moisés Caicedo in - no more players looking for a last fat paycheck.
You know if RM is actually selling him, then there´s a reason for it.
You know if RM is actually selling him, then there´s a reason for it.
For the Caf, anything after 29 is slow wither and decay. Never mind that newer training methods and improved nutrition and habits have made many footballers extend the prime of their careers. We would have probably said no to Modric or Benzema 5 years ago and look at their form what they've achieved in that span of time.
Injury history is for me a far more important parameter when looking at a player
Correct.
Who'da thunk?
At least Murtough got a holiday
FDJ not happening.
Casemiro not happening.
On to Kimmich!
Then KDB!
Yay.
Casemiro not happening.
On to Kimmich!
Then KDB!
Yay.
I don't think we're in a position to worry about transfer strategy this window having backed ourselves into the smallest hole imaginable despite having an entire month before the window opened to get our house (strategy) in order.
We're backs to the wall, and absolutely everyone knows that and will take advantage of it. At least with top-end players we get something very special back despite overpaying for the privilege.
Casemiro's position, standing and current level of ability is catalytic, not just for us and our dire predicament, but even for any club hoping to win the CL. I have no hesitation in stating he is of a level that turns an also-ran into a winner.
For ourselves, it would change so, so much:
- defenders with the best shield in front of them in the game(!)
- finally a chance to unlock any latent potential back there and allow the defenders to get on with their job and their job alone
- turning the entire midfield into a wholly different entity to what it is now. Casemiro-Fred-Eriksen is a CL position chasing one. All able to get on with their specialist jobs, it's not a joke midfield anymore.
- the ability to shuffle the midfield around as a whole because it then has a base.
You aren't going to find many active midfielders who by themselves are the conduit to so much that orbits them. You pay a premium for that, and for the best in the business, you're likely to pay the most, especially when approaching the deal from a position of absolute weakness.
I'll put it to you and ask: which other best in their position in the world class players have we even a sniff of landing, and should we not go for them if there is a chance of landing them? The laughing and playing down of this link is the notion of him coming here, not what he could do for us or what he represents, which is an almost universally agreed upon premium service.
I think worrying about transfer policy is for the close of this window where a vast majority of our staff should be promptly handed their p45's, but right here and now? We're in no position to turn a player like this down - beggars can't be choosers, and right now we're effectively running around cap in hand absolutely desperate to put a band aid over the gaping wound of a summer window we've inflicted upon ourselves. Madrid and the player might be chancing their hand and putting down ludicrous figures to even entertain us, but that's our own fault and still, I think most in the fanbase would say pay the money and whine about it after the fact over turning down a Casemiro if he'd come here.
We ain't never ever getting Casemiro.
Do we even call representatives to sound out interest any more? Are we operating on the principle that we will convince players to sign after we have a fee agreed? That is a terribly old fashioned way of doing transfers...
Have we not learned from Matic? There's a reason why Madrid want to offload him.
That's all well and good, but best DM in the World doesn't stop De Gea throwing the ball into the back of his own net
Joking aside, I take your point. It just makes me nervous is all. We have a string of players we've signed from big clubs that just haven't worked out. We only have to look as far back as last summer for the most recent example. I'd be very concerned about bringing in a player who's just here for the money and with nothing to prove.
Plus, and it's kind of irrelevant, but it Casemiro won't turn us into winners. Manchester United won't win the Premier league again for as long as the current owners remain in place. I fear my 6yr old will be married and have kids of her own before we win it again. And that's probably quite conservative.
Players agent trying to get him a raise - easy tactic - just link your player to the most desperate team around - and that will be Utd.
It’s just intermediaries touting around using our name - there is a relentless amount of this going on while we are appearing/acting so desperate and clueless.
It’s just intermediaries touting around using our name - there is a relentless amount of this going on while we are appearing/acting so desperate and clueless.
Tell me about it
He has a contract till 2025. He isn't getting a raise . Real has sold bigger players before for right money.
The link itself was always risible given he's where he is in standing and we're where we are... in standing, but there is merit in stating Madrid don't pay players like him their due, which is where the inlet is should he be thinking it's time to maximise his earnings on a last big move (I still maintain he'd have CL clubs in for him willing to match whatever we'd offer if that's his line of thinking) before he can no longer set terms.That's all well and good, but best DM in the World doesn't stop De Gea throwing the ball into the back of his own net
Joking aside, I take your point. It just makes me nervous is all. We have a string of players we've signed from big clubs that just haven't worked out. We only have to look as far back as last summer for the most recent example. I'd be very concerned about bringing in a player who's just here for the money and with nothing to prove.
Plus, and it's kind of irrelevant, but it Casemiro won't turn us into winners. Manchester United won't win the Premier league again for as long as the current owners remain in place. I fear my 6yr old will be married and have kids of her own before we win it again. And that's probably quite conservative.
I think 'opportunities' like this are far too infrequent to become policy, truth be told, so a one-off we desperately need isn't a problem or concern. It's offering terrible players exorbitant wages that is the bigger issue and one that needs to stop. Just that with these bigger players, as long as we're not knowingly buying crocks (Schweinsteiger), facilitating their game and thus optimising them is absolutely paramount.
A few hours have passed and the reality is that no one at Madrid or in Casemiro's entourage is ruling out a move to United.
With PSG, for example, the case was short lived.
Taken from Reddit from someone:
Interesting Bits :
- Although Chelsea will allow Pulisic to leave the club would prefer to sell the American international who has grown increasingly frustrated at his lack of opportunities at Stamford Bridge.
- The 23-year-old winger is the US captain and is anxious to ensure he plays enough before the forthcoming World Cup but is not central to Thomas Tuchel’s plans at Chelsea.
- Real Madrid will not stand in Casemiro’s way should United follow up their interest with a £50 million bid and the midfielder tells them that he wants to go.
- Although there is widespread scepticism as to why Casemiro would want to leave Madrid it is understood he is interested in hearing about United’s offer and not least because his first-team chances might be reduced this season following the arrival of Aurelien Tchouameni for €80 million. The 22-year-old is expected to play.
- Casemiro, who has a contract with Madrid until 2025, has a good relationship with president Florentino Perez and it is thought the club will not block his move if that is what he asks for. Sources suggest that having won it all in Spain for several years the 30-year-old Brazilian might be willing to accept a new challenge especially if he is offered a lucrative enough contract by United.
- United are looking for a versatile wide forward to add to their attacking options but are also operating within a reasonably tight budget having bid up to €85 million for Barcelona’s Frenkie de Jong. Although that bid is unlikely to succeed, with Chelsea also in for De Jong, United do not want to use that cash just yet.
- United are looking to sign at least three new players before the end of the transfer window: a forward and two midfielders.
Interesting Bits :
- Although Chelsea will allow Pulisic to leave the club would prefer to sell the American international who has grown increasingly frustrated at his lack of opportunities at Stamford Bridge.
- The 23-year-old winger is the US captain and is anxious to ensure he plays enough before the forthcoming World Cup but is not central to Thomas Tuchel’s plans at Chelsea.
- Real Madrid will not stand in Casemiro’s way should United follow up their interest with a £50 million bid and the midfielder tells them that he wants to go.
- Although there is widespread scepticism as to why Casemiro would want to leave Madrid it is understood he is interested in hearing about United’s offer and not least because his first-team chances might be reduced this season following the arrival of Aurelien Tchouameni for €80 million. The 22-year-old is expected to play.
- Casemiro, who has a contract with Madrid until 2025, has a good relationship with president Florentino Perez and it is thought the club will not block his move if that is what he asks for. Sources suggest that having won it all in Spain for several years the 30-year-old Brazilian might be willing to accept a new challenge especially if he is offered a lucrative enough contract by United.
- United are looking for a versatile wide forward to add to their attacking options but are also operating within a reasonably tight budget having bid up to €85 million for Barcelona’s Frenkie de Jong. Although that bid is unlikely to succeed, with Chelsea also in for De Jong, United do not want to use that cash just yet.
- United are looking to sign at least three new players before the end of the transfer window: a forward and two midfielders.
A forward- Pulisic
2 Midfielders - Casemiro / Caicedo
+ we also know that he wants a Goalkeeper (Yann Sommer) and there was talk of Real also letting Asensio go too - So could be another option for the forward line.
It’s insane to me that this is not our strategy. Seems even more of an obvious thing to do if you are on a tight budget.
Ragnick made it clear that this is what we should be doing so I can only assume ETH wasn’t on the same page and wanted to aim higher. Big mistake imo
No way in hell is Casemiro joining this raging dumpster fire of a club.
As good as casemiro is, it would just be another varane situation knowing our luck. Top player who has won everything, wants more money and a new challenge. Unfortuntely will probably be injured with niggling injuries at Utd ala Varane (not saying Varane isnt a top quality player).
I'd be more than fine with that. I'd actually try and go for Pulisic AND Asensio.
Casemiro is the new De Jong.
Not going to happen, but a muppet’s dream.
Not going to happen, but a muppet’s dream.
Not sure he'd want you behind him though Harry.
Agent Fred ????
“ain’t never”. So you’re saying we’re getting Casemiro?
I thought the same with Varane but then he came. Varane should be starting that’s on ten Hag. It’s quite possible that Casemiro is looking for a new challenge and ££££ after winning everything with Madrid.
We desperately need a striker.
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