[The_Midfielder]

Only because Amrabat is wank. A good player can keep ball under pressure

This.

 

[Roboc7]

He’s nowhere near good enough but is one of our better players so could easily see out his contract. Was ok until he had to cover space and his legs have gone so that never works out well, also lacks quality on the ball too often.

 

[aeh1991]

There were a few very good moments, but then he also made some really sloppy passes (or moments like when he headed the ball to Haaland, which could habe been a big chance for City).

 

[TempusFugit]

I still maintain that he'll look better in a system here he doesn't have to run like a 25yr old workhorse CM. The truth is that the system Ten Hag employs doesn't suit these players. Casemiro is still a good passer and can still win duels in midfield cleanly.

Take a look at Rodri for example, do any of you think he's much quicker than Casemiro? Sure he's more polished on the ball but the difference is that Pep's system ensures they keep the ball so Rodri isn't always trying to catch players who are obviously much quicker than him. If we had Rodri and City had Casemiro i bet we'd be singing a different tune. Casemiro is clearly slowing down but he can still do a job under a competent manager.

 

[Aint gota Kalou]

It's no surprise he looked better when he had players around him in CM and defence.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Let's not go the short term option ever again when we eventually have to replace him. We're a bit lucky we have Mainoo so we don't have to get ourselves 2 centre midfielders in the next two summer windows. Also, I'd like a guy who is more press resistant and a better passer than Casemiro is.

 

[Superunknown]

His performance today. Woof.

 

[edgecutter]

He looks done at this level. Always thought this would happen when spending 60 million for someone in their 30s.

 

[arnie_ni]

He looks done at this level. Always thought this would happen when spending 60 million for someone in their 30s.

Thought we'd have 2/3 years.

 

[The Corinthian]

Better second half but some of his passing was shocking. Was playing drunk it seems.

 

[Remember the geese]

He was Everton's best player in the first half. We won't be signing this profile of player any time soon.

 

[#07]

Today Casemiro's use of the ball was among Everton's most dangerous weapons. He was utterly abysmal. We will be looking at another 7-0 if he concedes that many turnovers against Klopp's pressing monsters. One of the most experienced, most highly paid players on earth and that is what we get? F-k me.

 

[Scandi Red]

That first half in particular... Terrible.

 

[kouroux]

Tries to be a playmaker way too much. He attempts highly difficult passes for no reason at times. His short passing is even worse.

 

[kouroux]

Let's not go the short term option ever again when we eventually have to replace him. We're a bit lucky we have Mainoo so we don't have to get ourselves 2 centre midfielders in the next two summer windows. Also, I'd like a guy who is more press resistant and a better passer than Casemiro is.

Realistically we still need 2 of them because Mainoo is still very young and the other options are non existent.

 

[Malone_Post]

He’s utter shite. Cannot wait to see the back of him.

A terrible short term signing who has turned into everything we feared he would.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Opening half hour in particular was as bad as any Utd performance ever.

He genuinely looked like he drunk, just spraying the ball everywhere. No care whatsoever.

Improved after that but still not good. Definitely needs to be moved on in the summer.

 

[the hea]

Another 100m down the drain, at least he was good for a couple of months last season.

 

[mancsarered]

He's a bottom half CDM on current form.

New rule: if Madrid is selling, don't buy.

 

[kouroux]

He's a bottom half CDM on current form.

New rule: if Madrid is selling, don't buy.

That seems a good rule tbh. They rarely sell a player in his prime

 

[glazed]

I still maintain that he'll look better in a system here he doesn't have to run like a 25yr old workhorse CM. The truth is that the system Ten Hag employs doesn't suit these players. Casemiro is still a good passer and can still win duels in midfield cleanly.

So why did we buy him? Buying players who don't fit the coaching system is the exact thing wrong with the club.

 

[Dec9003]

Possibly suffering from the stop start nature of this season for him. I don’t think he’s finished just yet, needs to pick up form soon though.

 

[youngrell]

I’ve no idea why the coaches have him collecting the ball from the defenders instead of Mainoo. We don’t want him too high of course, because his recovery speed is laughable, but feel like we would build up so much better if they reversed their positions when Onana has the ball.

 

[MadDogg]

Let's not go the short term option ever again when we eventually have to replace him. We're a bit lucky we have Mainoo so we don't have to get ourselves 2 centre midfielders in the next two summer windows. Also, I'd like a guy who is more press resistant and a better passer than Casemiro is.

Short term options are fine as long as they are either cheap (both in transfer fee and wage) or they are the final piece of the puzzle.

Casemiro doesn't fit either of those categories unfortunately.

 

[Mickson]

Possibly suffering from the stop start nature of this season for him. I don’t think he’s finished just yet, needs to pick up form soon though.

This is so funny. I wonder why De Bruyne, Silva, Salah etc don't get this "out of form" epithet.

 

[dubplate warrior]

So why did we buy him? Buying players who don't fit the coaching system is the exact thing wrong with the club.

Because they panicked when they realised Frenkie De Jong was never going to leave.

 

[The_Midfielder]

That seems a good rule tbh. They rarely sell a player in his prime

Not really.. we just need to do be better in buying from them..
The new Turkish player they have .. we should try to get him

 

[glazed]

Because they panicked when they realised Frenkie De Jong was never going to leave.

This is why the club is dysfunctional.

 

[Sylar]

Matic vibes. Big money, got about half a great season from him, then see him suffering the majority of the game but does one or two good things.

That seems a good rule tbh. They rarely sell a player in his prime

We have a hilarious record getting players from Madrid, munich and Dortmund.

 

[kouroux]

Not really.. we just need to do be better in buying from them..
The new Turkish player they have .. we should try to get him

Like I said, they rarely sell players in their prime.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

He's a bottom half CDM on current form.

New rule: if Madrid is selling, don't buy.

It's just us and our decisions to buy has beens, Odegaard was a top buy for Arsenal by comparison.

 

[Adnan]

I don't think his performances this season are anything to do with him not being in his prime. But rather he's making an absolute mess of simple regulation passes and is failing at the basics of the game. It seems as if he's trying to get the manager the sack.

 

[The_Midfielder]

Like I said, they rarely sell players in their prime.

Mata, Schenider, Robben, Odegaard, Ozil ?

 

[kouroux]

Mata, Schenider, Robben, Odegaard, Ozil ?

Mata ? No. Sneijder ? He didn't hit his prime there so no. Odegaard hasn't even hit his prime yet so another no I'd say and Robben definitely didn't hit his prime there.
The only close case is Ozil

 

[Dion]

We've still got £45m in wages left to pay him before his contract ends, plus any signing fees paid in instalments, not to mention £35m of amortised transfer fee left to get off the books. That's £80m+ worth of balance sheet obligations before the end of the 25-26 season. We really need to hope the Saudi's come in and save us here.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Abysmal

 

[georgipep]

I don't think his performances this season are anything to do with him not being in his prime. But rather he's making an absolute mess of simple regulation passes and is failing at the basics of the game. It seems as if he's trying to get the manager the sack.

Very serious accusation. I don't believe the manager would play him if there was even a hint of that.

 

[Ekeke]

His passing in the first half from deep positions especially was criminal and could easily have cost us on another day.

 

[Adnan]

Very serious accusation. I don't believe the manager would play him if there was even a hint of that.

The way he's playing it 'seems' he's trying to get the manager sacked. I'm also not sure why he keeps playing him instead of Amrabat because the amount of basic passing errors Casemiro is making one would presume Amrabat would be given a chance. But Amrabat imo is being unfairly judged when games have already been lost but Casemiro seems to be a cause of dysfunction consistently at the base of the midfield this season, and for all the goals he has scored to 'save us' we likely wouldn't need saving if he had done his job in midfield in the first place.

If one wasn't to know, one would be mistaken to to think that ten Hag was showing favouritism towards Casemiro rather than give Amrabat a fair chance in midfield who is without a doubt a better player in the build up phase on the ball.

 

[Wisqo]

His performance levels have dropped significantly since last season. He's much slower, his reaction times poor and his passing is concerning. He's past his best, unfortunately.

He also doesn't seem to have the same passion he had last season. I wouldn't blame him, many had us as top 3 before the first game of the season. It's just another case of wasted talent at the club.