Ah well no repeat of the 2017 League Cup final..
Carabao Cup 2022/23
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Cheers Michael Owen
Pretty sure that’s how football works.
Pretty much. We'd be in danger of doing what we did under Ole.
Chasing 3/4 trophies at once and ending up with nothing. We just don't have the squad to play well every 3 days.
We basically added 4 games to our schedule this year on the Queens funeral weekend. 2 due to that terrible draw with Sociedad plus the Leeds and Palace games.
The fans fighting over the jerseys 
Nowhere near. It already feels at breaking point.
Agree.
Yes but hopefully can keep as many of key players fit as possible. Will be lucky to do that with such a hectic schedule let's be honest.
Yeah maybe, but think they might draw too many games to keep the momentum up.
Insightful stuff, Andy.
Self-inflicted after that match though. Only have ourselves to blame for not having a better GD than Sociedad against those two pub teams.
But a repeat of the 1999 FA Cup final will be nice
Being good at defending but unable to score from numerous chances every match doesn't equal negative team in my humble opinion.
This
Has dare ever been a more relaxing final, almost boring even it was such a cake walk. (Or was it not but just sandwiched in between some crazy tense games, maybe my memory is playing tricks)
Won all but one game. That’s being incredibly harsh, especially when we went away to a tough ground and beat them as well.
Socieadad could easily have scored more goals as well, that goes both ways
Can you honestly see Ten Hag testing players v either Barca or Forest though? I just can’t see it, though I expect he will in the FA cup now.
Newcastle are legit, and some of the analytics bods have them as a better side than we are. Will be hard to spin them beating us for silverware and/or finishing above us in the league.
Now there's a shock.
In one of the games we had so much space and could've scored 6-7. Everyone was passing it to the virus so he could tap in but he couldn't hit the barn door. If that snake wasn't around and stinking up the place we win the group comfortably.
What Sociedad could've done is irrelevant. We should be finishing above them 10/10 times.
But if the referee won't give it, when will VAR? they just say the evidence isn't strong enough which is a blatent lie. The lad had his foot across mctominay and tripped him
I just don't understand it. They've essentially said "we don't like VAR and the ref is final"
I think the current thought process in how VAR is implemented is fundamentally wrong. It should be a tool to help the on-field referee, not another referee giving his opinion. VAR should be like it is for offsides but anything subjective should be decided by the referee on the pitch taking another look on the screen. It boggles my mind that the referee himself can't raise his arm up and admit he needs to see it again. Now there's this weird model of respecting both the original decision and VAR's opinion even if the on field referee had to guess whether to blow his whistle or not.
Probably not (especially if the 2nd leg's are still alive.
I do think we need to be a little brave though and keep the rotation happening. Ole fell into that trap where he kept the same 11 every week and we got burned.
We desperately need Martial and Sancho back to full fitness, or give some faith in Pellestri.
They’ve scored 1 goal more than us - but conceded 14 fewer. If we make the final we need our shooting boots on - but it’s a game of two teams who struggle to score.
I was too young to remember but I’d imagine that it would have felt like like a pre-season warm-up in preparation for the Bayern final game. Get through it unscathed and prepare ourselves to make history. We were on a high after stopping Arsenal winning back to back league titles. The big one we were all looking forward to was obviously the Bayern CL final 4 days later and we’ll we all know how that turned out…
Yeah I see what you mean, a bit like Rugby they ask for extra help.
That would require referees to have no ego though and admit they aren't sure or got it wrong.
For me the big issue is they just don't want it in any format. A lot of the ex pros seem to moan about it too.
anyone that doesn't see Newcastle as a legit threat for winning the cup and finishing in the top 4 are kidding themselves.....they have no european challenges thus no midweek matches and can stick iwht basically the same XI every match and they are tough to score on
NUFC have scored more goals and have way higher xG in the league compared to Man United. We are still creating decent amount of chances every game despite even the midtable teams setting up a defensive low block against us now. Much better squads have struggled to score against low block than the current NUFC team, games being low scoring doesn't automatically mean a team has a negative playing style.
No one's denying that you're not a decent team, but it depends what you define as negative, your 8 draws points to a dreadfully negative side with a focus solely on not losing rather than winning. Mourinho sides famously create good chances but they're considered negative, which is essentially what this Newcastle side is, a budget Mourinho team. Endless play-acting, timewasting, a lack of gamesmanship. Just an absolutely repugnant, albeit good, side.
Whose playing a low block v Newcastle?
Yeah that's where we really lost the group,took us 93 mins to break down Nicosia at home WTF
Ferguson was a master at that, I always thought it was actually quite rare that he played his absolute best XI.
The 99 FA Cup final was the only time I've ever been 100% United would win a cup final, against a top flight opponent, before the game even kicked off. That United side was top class throughout. The one time we've had the best midfield in the world IMO
Beckham, Scholes, Keane, Giggs.... ooof
Beckham, Scholes, Keane, Giggs.... ooof
I do think people are underestimating Newcastle a fair bit here. Above us on nearly every metric this season. It'll be an even game.
Yeah definitely would be 50/50 but let's not look that far ahead when we have to beat Forest first
We can beat Newcastle, won’t be easy, but I trust the manager and the players.
What a schedule we got, that Barcelona second leg will be dangerous. Will ETH play both that and the final at full strength?
What a schedule we got, that Barcelona second leg will be dangerous. Will ETH play both that and the final at full strength?
Yes because their last 4 games have been against Leicester, Fulham, Palace and Southampton - but in those games they have scored 4 goals. Earlier in the season Newcastle looked great both defensively and going forward, they don't anymore. 5 goals in the last 7 games is hardly great, but they get away with it because their defense is solid.
Plus a goalie that is in the form of his life
Most importantly above on the ability to see out a scrappy 1-0 by hook or by crook. Masters of shithousery!
I was mocked here in the summer when I said we should replace DDG with Nick Pope - and said he was easily the best English keeper around. That's 10 consecutive clean sheets now, including at Arsenal...